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[JamesV6CDX]

Guys,

Today I finished putting the Elite top end back together. All 4 cams in, belt on etc -

Turned over fine by hand. Fired up first time - a few taps (as expected) while the lifters settled, then all seemed good.

I left the car running for an hour on the drive - still ticking over fine, could hardly hear it. Idle VERY slightly unsteady, but it was like that before - (suspect ICV).

Anyway - when cleaning up in the boot - I found - [size=12]a cam follwer [/size]  

Now - I am certain I fitted 24, and, given how sweet it runs and revs - I can't see how one would be missing -

But on the other hand, I don't recall having any spares (unless it was in the package mutantcav sent me, with the 3.0 cams).



Simple answer. do I need to pop the camcovers back off and see if one is missing - or would it obviously run and sound like a bag of spanners if that was the case?

(I suspect the later, I'm probs paranoid, but would like opinions!)

[ffcgary1]

I think mate that it would sound like a bag full of mexicans having a shindig in there if you had left one out ,and pretty sure it would not run at all.

[JamesV6CDX]

I think mate that it would sound like a bag full of mexicans having a shindig in there if you had left one out ,and pretty sure it would not run at all.

My thoughts too - and it's sweet.
It MUST be a spare - I just want someone to agree with me

[tmx]

it certainly wouldnt run correctly!

[ffcgary1]

HA HA, dont take my word as gospel james mate, but i think you will be ok.

[Andy B]

I've never stripped one down far enough (or wanted to) althoug I've seen under various cam covers at meets when people have had cam covers done. I suspect that it would still idle OK with a follower missing, I wonder if the cam lobe would reach the top of the valve stem  :-/  :-/

I think I'd have to remove the covers again .... just to look & make sure.

[Andy B]

I think mate that it would sound like a bag full of mexicans having a shindig in there if you had left one out ,and pretty sure it would not run at all.

I'm not sure I'd agree. whether the follower is off an inlet or exhaust I reckon there's be enough fuel/exhaust flow through the 1 valve to make it run. There are plenty of 3 valve per pot cars around.

[JamesV6CDX]

I wonder if the cam lobe would reach the top of the valve stem  :-/  :-/

I think I'd have to remove the covers again .... just to look & make sure.

That's what I'm wondering. If it misses the stem - I guess it would still run, on one valve for inlet/exhaust...  :-/

[Andy B]

I wonder if the cam lobe would reach the top of the valve stem  :-/  :-/

I think I'd have to remove the covers again .... just to look & make sure.

That's what I'm wondering. If it misses the stem - I guess it would still run, on one valve for inlet/exhaust...  :-/

that's what I think.  :-/  

[HerefordElite]

you'd be running on 23 valves James i sure it would sound like a sack of spanners

[JamesV6CDX]

you'd be running on 23 valves James i sure it would sound like a sack of spanners

I'm not so sure - if the cam lobes misses the stem on the one with a missing follwer - it would still suck squeze bang blow in time - and hence Run OK

It's a question of whether or not the lobe would hit the stem or not

[Andy B]

you'd be running on 23 valves James i sure it would sound like a sack of spanners

why? There's 200+ bhp ..... 1 valve wouldn't be that noticable on tick over ...... assuming that the cam lobe misses the valve stem.  :-/

[HerefordElite]

I think mate that it would sound like a bag full of mexicans having a shindig in there if you had left one out ,and pretty sure it would not run at all.

I'm not sure I'd agree. whether the follower is off an inlet or exhaust I reckon there's be enough fuel/exhaust flow through the 1 valve to make it run. There are plenty of 3 valve per pot cars around.

but they're designed to run as 3 valves per cylinder

missing inlet would leave it running very lean on one cylinder surely, and exhaust would be as bad as it wouldn't have enough pressure to fill :-?

[ffcgary1]

if it was missing a follower than it would either missfire due to lack of fuel in that cylinder or blow exhaust gas into the inlet manifold which i would have thought will bring up a code on the engine managment system.  

[HerefordElite]

you'd be running on 23 valves James i sure it would sound like a sack of spanners

I'm not so sure - if the cam lobes misses the stem on the one with a missing follwer - it would still suck squeze bang blow in time - and hence Run OK

It's a question of whether or not the lobe would hit the stem or not

where is Mark when you need him