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Front doors deadlocking.....
« on: 03 November 2010, 22:25:40 »

Key in or out, engine on or off, if I push the button down on the front door it WILL NOT pull up again, you have to press the button on the key, even if driving.... :o :o
This has nothing to do with the air bag ecu, it is not mechanical, it IS electrical, there are no codes shown and I was told that there is not a 'reset' procedure for the Omega, any ideas.......

Auto electrician said it would be an expensive process to do further investigation.... ::)

You can pull up the back door buttons....
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Re: Front doors deadlocking.....
« Reply #1 on: 03 November 2010, 22:44:08 »

Try swapping the door pin switches over, from front to back... you never know!
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Re: Front doors deadlocking.....
« Reply #2 on: 03 November 2010, 23:25:00 »

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It's electrical..........
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Re: Front doors deadlocking.....
« Reply #3 on: 03 November 2010, 23:30:10 »

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It's electrical..........
How can it be electrical if it works OK with the fob :-?
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Re: Front doors deadlocking.....
« Reply #4 on: 03 November 2010, 23:32:43 »

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Key in or out, engine on or off, if I push the button down on the front door it WILL NOT pull up again, you have to press the button on the key, even if driving.... :o :o
This has nothing to do with the air bag ecu, it is not mechanical, it IS electrical, there are no codes shown and I was told that there is not a 'reset' procedure for the Omega, any ideas.......

Auto electrician said it would be an expensive process to do further investigation.... ::)

You can pull up the back door buttons....

I'd try another central locking motor first if it's dead locking instead of just locking.  :-/
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Re: Front doors deadlocking.....
« Reply #5 on: 03 November 2010, 23:35:00 »

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Try swapping the door pin switches over, from front to back... you never know!

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How can it be electrical if it works OK with the fob :-?

it's deadlocking .... you can't pull the button up ..... instead of the first stage lock and the fob is doing as it normally does when the whole car is dead locked and unlocks it.
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Re: Front doors deadlocking.....
« Reply #6 on: 04 November 2010, 00:04:32 »

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Try swapping the door pin switches over, from front to back... you never know!

It's electrical..........
How can it be electrical if it works OK with the fob :-?

Because physically you can not pull up the button, click open on the key and it opens, the fob is an electrical signal..........
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Re: Front doors deadlocking.....
« Reply #7 on: 04 November 2010, 22:54:46 »

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It's electrical..........
How can it be electrical if it works OK with the fob :-?

Cos the fob is electrical...... there is no mechanical reason, ie not stuck, there is no solenoid fault, it is something that tells it to deadlock when pushing the button..... is there a 'Reset' ...of the whole locking system..? that or i am just going to remove the front buttons to avoid accidental activation then posing with an arm out of the window... ::) ::)
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Re: Front doors deadlocking.....
« Reply #8 on: 04 November 2010, 23:07:40 »

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.... there is no solenoid fault, it is something that tells it to deadlock when pushing the button..... .....

I think that it could very well be a solenoid/motor fault. What happens to the lock on that door when you press the fob once ie just lock the car? Is it just locking or is it deadlocking? I suspect it's deadlocking ........  :-/
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Re: Front doors deadlocking.....
« Reply #9 on: 04 November 2010, 23:18:32 »

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.... there is no solenoid fault, it is something that tells it to deadlock when pushing the button..... .....

I think that it could very well be a solenoid/motor fault. What happens to the lock on that door when you press the fob once ie just lock the car? Is it just locking or is it deadlocking? I suspect it's deadlocking ........  :-/

Forget the fob, when I push the button down it 'deadlocks' you can not pull up the button, only the key will release it, either by pressing the open button or putting it in the door and mechanically unlocking the door.....
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Re: Front doors deadlocking.....
« Reply #10 on: 04 November 2010, 23:23:45 »

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.... there is no solenoid fault, it is something that tells it to deadlock when pushing the button..... .....

I think that it could very well be a solenoid/motor fault. What happens to the lock on that door when you press the fob once ie just lock the car? Is it just locking or is it deadlocking? I suspect it's deadlocking ........  :-/

Forget the fob, when I push the button down it 'deadlocks' you can not pull up the button, only the key will release it, either by pressing the open button or putting it in the door and mechanically unlocking the door.....


I understand what you're saying. But if your door deadlocks on the first press of the fob you might be able to prove that the fault lies in the solenoid/motor itself.
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Re: Front doors deadlocking.....
« Reply #11 on: 04 November 2010, 23:27:26 »

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.... there is no solenoid fault, it is something that tells it to deadlock when pushing the button..... .....

I think that it could very well be a solenoid/motor fault. What happens to the lock on that door when you press the fob once ie just lock the car? Is it just locking or is it deadlocking? I suspect it's deadlocking ........  :-/

Forget the fob, when I push the button down it 'deadlocks' you can not pull up the button, only the key will release it, either by pressing the open button or putting it in the door and mechanically unlocking the door.....


I understand what you're saying. But if your door deadlocks on the first press of the fob you might be able to prove that the fault lies in the solenoid/motor itself.

Nothing to do with the fob, press the door button and it goes to deadlock, even if driving the car, and you can not pull the button back up, you really can't.....
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« Reply #12 on: 04 November 2010, 23:28:00 »

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.... there is no solenoid fault, it is something that tells it to deadlock when pushing the button..... .....

I think that it could very well be a solenoid/motor fault. What happens to the lock on that door when you press the fob once ie just lock the car? Is it just locking or is it deadlocking? I suspect it's deadlocking ........  :-/

Forget the fob, when I push the button down it 'deadlocks' you can not pull up the button, only the key will release it, either by pressing the open button or putting it in the door and mechanically unlocking the door.....


I understand what you're saying. But if your door deadlocks on the first press of the fob you might be able to prove that the fault lies in the solenoid/motor itself.
With the key in door are you having to use excessive force to unlock :question
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Re: Front doors deadlocking.....
« Reply #13 on: 04 November 2010, 23:30:29 »

but the fob "talks" to the solenoid .. and its obvious the button isn't....

As you lift the button it SHOULD send the same signal to the solenoid that the fob does ....  it isn't....  so take the door card off and check where the button wiring goes to ....   :)
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« Reply #14 on: 04 November 2010, 23:31:17 »

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.... there is no solenoid fault, it is something that tells it to deadlock when pushing the button..... .....

I think that it could very well be a solenoid/motor fault. What happens to the lock on that door when you press the fob once ie just lock the car? Is it just locking or is it deadlocking? I suspect it's deadlocking ........  :-/

Forget the fob, when I push the button down it 'deadlocks' you can not pull up the button, only the key will release it, either by pressing the open button or putting it in the door and mechanically unlocking the door.....


I understand what you're saying. But if your door deadlocks on the first press of the fob you might be able to prove that the fault lies in the solenoid/motor itself.
With the key in door are you having to use excessive force to unlock :question

Nope, this is an electrical problem, something working backwards, how do we reset the doors? 
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