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Author Topic: Polly v Lemforder.  (Read 4009 times)

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feeutfo

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Re: Polly v Lemforder.
« Reply #15 on: 06 November 2011, 21:09:01 »

Polly will absorb it, they are surprisingly soft IMO. They just don't have the massive voids the originals have with those stupid plastic inserts.

Oh, and if pollying new wishbones, beware the oil bladders when cutting the old ones out. Black molten oil and muck splattered everywhere. I looked like a Dalmation after.  ;D
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« Reply #16 on: 06 November 2011, 21:17:34 »

Oh, and if pollying new wishbones, beware the oil bladders when cutting the old ones out. Black molten oil and muck splattered everywhere. I looked like a Dalmation after.  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #17 on: 06 November 2011, 21:42:34 »

Oh, and if pollying new wishbones, beware the oil bladders when cutting the old ones out. Black molten oil and muck splattered everywhere. I looked like a Dalmation after.  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Oi! It's not THAT funny.  >:(     ;D
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Re: Polly v Lemforder.
« Reply #18 on: 06 November 2011, 21:46:36 »

Oh, and if pollying new wishbones, beware the oil bladders when cutting the old ones out. Black molten oil and muck splattered everywhere. I looked like a Dalmation after.  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Oi! It's not THAT funny.  >:(     ;D

Oh yes it is! ;D ;D  :D
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Re: Polly v Lemforder.
« Reply #19 on: 06 November 2011, 21:56:41 »

Oh, and if pollying new wishbones, beware the oil bladders when cutting the old ones out. Black molten oil and muck splattered everywhere. I looked like a Dalmation after.  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Oi! It's not THAT funny.  >:(     ;D

Oh yes it is! ;D ;D  :D
Yep ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Polly v Lemforder.
« Reply #20 on: 06 November 2011, 22:07:09 »

I found Poly's an improvement on handling and especially on minimising steering wheel movement under heavy braking.  :y  It did highlight a bad wheel balance issue which was not that evident before. My main concern is that if the standard bushes absorbed this issue, where does the wheel deflection shock go now. Hopefully not to the wishbone hangers as I'd hate to be causing fatigue to the metal parts.  :-\
Still seems a good mod so far.  :y

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My money would be the rear bushes on the wishbone. Time will tell how they cope with polys on the front.

Certainly the rear bushes on my - admittedly crap, but low mileage - aftermarket 'bones lasted about 30 seconds after fitting polys in the front. :( ??? :'(
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« Reply #21 on: 06 November 2011, 22:54:16 »

I found Poly's an improvement on handling and especially on minimising steering wheel movement under heavy braking.  :y  It did highlight a bad wheel balance issue which was not that evident before. My main concern is that if the standard bushes absorbed this issue, where does the wheel deflection shock go now. Hopefully not to the wishbone hangers as I'd hate to be causing fatigue to the metal parts.  :-\
Still seems a good mod so far.  :y

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My money would be the rear bushes on the wishbone. Time will tell how they cope with polys on the front.

Certainly the rear bushes on my - admittedly crap, but low mileage - aftermarket 'bones lasted about 30 seconds after fitting polys in the front. :( ??? :'(
That's why, personally, I wouldn't fit anything cheaper than Lemforder. Although if the Pollys have caused early failure that's obviously a concern. But...

As said earlier, the ride is smoother! There's less... Fudder? ...through the car over bumps. To me that's less stress on everything, not just the occupants.
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Re: Polly v Lemforder.
« Reply #22 on: 06 November 2011, 23:08:23 »

Polly will absorb it, they are surprisingly soft IMO. They just don't have the massive voids the originals have with those stupid plastic inserts.

Oh, and if pollying new wishbones, beware the oil bladders when cutting the old ones out. Black molten oil and muck splattered everywhere. I looked like a Dalmation after.  ;D

Poly-bushed mine before fitting the 'bones.
Clamped them in the workmate, and used a blow-lamp to 'melt' the rubber portion first on mine, then whacked-out the inner sleeve. It was then really easy to hack-saw the outer sleeve 'til it collapsed sufficiently enough for it to be knocked out.
Surprisingly, the heat from the blow-lamp didn't damage the painted surface either!
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Re: Polly v Lemforder.
« Reply #23 on: 07 November 2011, 09:54:16 »

I did my last ones in situ, and it really wasn't too difficult, and if I can say that at my age, it will be the proverbial p.of p, for you young'uns. There is (was) a 'how to' somewhere. :y :y :y
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« Reply #24 on: 07 November 2011, 11:25:50 »

Took me two hours under the car, in no particular rush, and a jig saw that was playing up, along with a cup of tea.

It would take longer with a hack saw, obviously, and probably be quite awkward.

Choose your saw weapon well.  :)
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« Reply #25 on: 07 November 2011, 11:36:31 »

Took me two hours under the car, in no particular rush, and a jig saw that was playing up, along with a cup of tea.

It would take longer with a hack saw, obviously, and probably be quite awkward.

Choose your saw weapon well.  :)

How about one of these? Probably go straight through the wishbone as well, but.. ;)
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Re: Polly v Lemforder.
« Reply #26 on: 07 November 2011, 12:00:56 »

Took me two hours under the car, in no particular rush, and a jig saw that was playing up, along with a cup of tea.

It would take longer with a hack saw, obviously, and probably be quite awkward.

Choose your saw weapon well.  :)

How about one of these? Probably go straight through the wishbone as well, but.. ;)


We used one of those Pollying AA's wishbones at Newent, made short work of it, but easy to get it wrong :y

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Re: Polly v Lemforder.
« Reply #27 on: 07 November 2011, 12:26:10 »

Took me two hours under the car, in no particular rush, and a jig saw that was playing up, along with a cup of tea.

It would take longer with a hack saw, obviously, and probably be quite awkward.

Choose your saw weapon well.  :)

How about one of these? Probably go straight through the wishbone as well, but.. ;)


We used one of those Pollying AA's wishbones at Newent, made short work of it, but easy to get it wrong :y

Nah, its not that quick at cutting!
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Re: Polly v Lemforder.
« Reply #28 on: 07 November 2011, 17:00:36 »

I find with cutting the outer sleave, key is stopping short at just the right point. Not all the way through, but deep enough to drive a cole chisel down one side of the cut, so it bends one side in and tears the mettle in the remainder of the cut. Bend one side in with the cole chisel, up to about half the length of the cut.

Then with a hammer belt the bent in section to knock the sleeve out. It doesn't need to be cut all the way through, that would damage the wishbone.... Ime.
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« Reply #29 on: 07 November 2011, 17:33:15 »

Also, just to mention. I find if the blade cuts all the way through, as on the inner oil bladder ring, due to the press fit nature the metal, the ring is being compressed in, so when the saw blade cuts through the ring grabs the blade. This can 'dangle berries' the saw.
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