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Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« on: 21 December 2011, 21:35:06 »

I am getting round to sorting the trailer which carries my mistress Jenny and I have acquired an axle which is 33cm too wide.

Now my question is this, do I:

a) Chop and weld with a slightly larger sleeve that goes over the original

b) Weld plates onto existing trailer frame on to which I bolt the axle.

I will post some pics tomorrow to help but thoughts would be appreciated  :y
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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #1 on: 21 December 2011, 21:40:40 »

I am getting round to sorting the trailer which carries my mistress Jenny and I have acquired an axle which is 33cm too wide.

Now my question is this, do I:

a) Chop and weld with a slightly larger sleeve that goes over the original

b) Weld plates onto existing trailer frame on to which I bolt the axle.

I will post some pics tomorrow to help but thoughts would be appreciated  :y


Your choice Matt, but if you choose 'option a' you'll obviously need to ensure that each side is perfectly aligned.
Vee blocks are a simple way of ensuring this.

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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #2 on: 21 December 2011, 21:45:44 »

Not 100% but think new rules are now in force as regards home brew trailers etc.  Worth a rake about.......  ???
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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #3 on: 21 December 2011, 23:18:22 »

It seems I am exempt from the new rules as the trailer is old and does not exceed the 3500kg mark.
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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #4 on: 21 December 2011, 23:29:10 »

It seems I am exempt from the new rules as the trailer is old and does not exceed the 3500kg mark.
Does that include rejigging of an old one?  Accepted that its a bit of a non starter as to proving when work was done but.....  ;)   ;D
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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #5 on: 21 December 2011, 23:37:09 »

It seems I am exempt from the new rules as the trailer is old and does not exceed the 3500kg mark.
Does that include rejigging of an old one?  Accepted that its a bit of a non starter as to proving when work was done but.....  ;)   ;D

Percisely  :y

Besides it comes into effect in Oct 2012 and as I'll be doing mine soon.....
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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #6 on: 21 December 2011, 23:45:31 »

Maximum width is 2.55m (I think!) :-\
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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #7 on: 21 December 2011, 23:47:46 »

Maximum width is 2.55m (I think!) :-\

Well inside that and I want to reduce the width if anything...
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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #8 on: 21 December 2011, 23:50:07 »

It seems I am exempt from the new rules as the trailer is old and does not exceed the 3500kg mark.

You'd be hard pushed not to improve on the current arrangements as I recall them. :-X

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A picture would be handy. :y
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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #9 on: 21 December 2011, 23:59:48 »

You're right Kev, the old axles are a little bit...well...tired.... :D

Piccie inbound tomorrow  :y
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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #10 on: 22 December 2011, 09:36:20 »

I am getting round to sorting the trailer which carries my mistress Jenny and I have acquired an axle which is 33cm too wide.

Now my question is this, do I:

a) Chop and weld with a slightly larger sleeve that goes over the original

b) Weld plates onto existing trailer frame on to which I bolt the axle.

I will post some pics tomorrow to help but thoughts would be appreciated  :y

Glad you got that sorted. Doesn't she mind being on a trailer? ;D ;D
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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #11 on: 22 December 2011, 09:46:00 »

Varche she lives on the trailer, and no she doesn't have any dags ;D

Right some pics:

This is where I want it attaching

 

The axle is upside down right now

 


Closeup of the fixings which I.suppose I could chop off and move?

 
 

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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #12 on: 22 December 2011, 14:24:52 »

I would have thought it ought to be possible to do a cut and shut on that.

If the welding is done competently it won't be any weaker, and most of the loads are from the mounting points down to the wheels. Axle is just there to keep it all aligned.
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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #13 on: 22 December 2011, 19:51:03 »

What I would do is put the axle in place as it is then centre/square it off then mark where it is sitting - take off again then cut axle to desired size.
When welding back on get a peice of 1/8th gauge steel plate and form a plate that sits over the chassis weld it on first then weld on the axle thus giving it a lot more support.
My idea is somthing similar to the backing plates that you get for indespension suspension units.
As for weights unless it's got a plate on the chassis of it your ok. :y
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Re: Trailer axle technical question - Not licenses or legality
« Reply #14 on: 23 December 2011, 00:52:24 »

I do know a guy who will chop anything to bits to make it fit anything if that's what you want M, but if I were you I'd take option B for this particular scenario (much cheaper, and easily do-able at home).
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