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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #60 on: 12 January 2012, 10:41:55 »

Although the age of consent is 16yrs, the law doesn't class a person as an "adult" til they're 18yrs....iirc? :-\
Shame holiday tour operators, airlines, trains, buses et al don`t follow the same line
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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #61 on: 12 January 2012, 10:44:49 »

Chance would be a fine thing!
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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #62 on: 12 January 2012, 11:49:43 »

First, thanks for the heads up Liberty_2012.
I've never seen you on this board before so i'm assuming you are closer to these alligations then the rest of the forum.   Please accept my apoligies if I have assumed wrong.

Lets look at what has been reported.

Lee Wells, aged 38, is accused of making a total of 314 indecent photos of children and 65 indecent movies of children.

The offences are alleged to have taken place between January 2003 and December 2004 and involve images up to level five, the most serious category.

If he is innocent, I hope he fights like break to clear his name.

If he is guilty, no words that I can put on here can describe what I would do to anybody who did anything like that to one of children  >:( >:(


Just a note to posters on here who have had regular contact with him over the years.
The police will have been through his internet browser history with a fine tooth comb and will have a list of email addresses to investigate.  This can take years.

Under NO circumstaces should anybody delete anything off there computer.

If anybody gets a knock on the door, just be honest with them and let the police do there job  :y

Please understand, I am not pointing the finger at anybody here.
I hope members understand that.
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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #63 on: 12 January 2012, 11:56:59 »

1.not a nice thread subject  :(
2.the newspaper pressing his picture before the court decision violating his rights..
3.I think it has served its purpose so must be locked..  :(
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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #64 on: 12 January 2012, 13:17:20 »

1.not a nice thread subject  :(
2.the newspaper pressing his picture before the court decision violating his rights..
3.I think it has served its purpose so must be locked..  :(

The thing is Cem, people on here have used him for work, and many rate him good enough to do a job. People who haven't read this can easily still ring him and ask him to do work. Now under no circumstances am I saying that he has committed any offence whatsoever, however I can't also say that he hasn't committed an offence. If he has committed the said offence then this needs to stay up and maybe be put as a sticky. This is an extremely serious allegation!

 As I said I'm not saying he has done anything of the sort, however if he has I wouldn't want him anywhere near my kids or anyone else's for that matter, words can't describe what I think of people who do this, but I point out again, until he is/isn't found guilty no one at all can pass judgement. This defiantly in my eyes needs to be a thread which is kept near the top of the page, just incase it is true.
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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #65 on: 12 January 2012, 13:51:22 »

would  be interested to know if he's disputing the allegations.... And if the crown court date is for a trial, or sentencing..
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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #66 on: 12 January 2012, 14:20:06 »

would  be interested to know if he's disputing the allegations.... And if the crown court date is for a trial, or sentencing..

But as you should know as Broocie does, Lee could get himself into trouble by actually saying anything.

I too hope if he is innocent he clears his name. On the other hand if he is guilty he gets what he deserves.
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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #67 on: 12 January 2012, 14:21:46 »

1.not a nice thread subject  :(
2.the newspaper pressing his picture before the court decision violating his rights..
3.I think it has served its purpose so must be locked..  :(

The thing is Cem, people on here have used him for work, and many rate him good enough to do a job. People who haven't read this can easily still ring him and ask him to do work. Now under no circumstances am I saying that he has committed any offence whatsoever, however I can't also say that he hasn't committed an offence. If he has committed the said offence then this needs to stay up and maybe be put as a sticky. This is an extremely serious allegation!

 As I said I'm not saying he has done anything of the sort, however if he has I wouldn't want him anywhere near my kids or anyone else's for that matter, words can't describe what I think of people who do this, but I point out again, until he is/isn't found guilty no one at all can pass judgement. This defiantly in my eyes needs to be a thread which is kept near the top of the page, just incase it is true.

whats the relation between mechanics work and porno ?

please distinguish between different things.. I think most members here showing over reaction..

even if he is guilty ,  (and in that case court will give the punishment not us) is it necessary to make him suffer without any job..

if you are scared for your children keep them away.. thats it.. no need for witch hunt ???
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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #68 on: 12 January 2012, 14:29:14 »

Over reaction Cem?
I actually think everyone has been pretty calm about such a heart felt topic being honest.

We do not want this starting to be a slanging match or witch hunt, so please if you are thinking of posting such things dont. They will be removed anyway.
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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #69 on: 12 January 2012, 14:34:55 »

Over reaction Cem?
I actually think everyone 1.has been pretty calm about such a heart felt topic being honest.

We do not want this starting to be a slanging match or witch hunt, so please if you are thinking of posting such things dont. They will be removed anyway.

1.I'm not sure.. I'm a son of 2 lawyers at age 46 .. most of my life passed in courts and I know how justice and law must be applied.. so my statement is valid imo.

2. if you prefer to remove my posts thats ok, but anyway I prefer not to post again.. and besides you are also over reacting!




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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #70 on: 12 January 2012, 14:47:12 »

Over reaction Cem?
I actually think everyone 1.has been pretty calm about such a heart felt topic being honest.

We do not want this starting to be a slanging match or witch hunt, so please if you are thinking of posting such things dont. They will be removed anyway.

1.I'm not sure.. I'm a son of 2 lawyers at age 46 .. most of my life passed in courts and I know how justice and law must be applied.. so my statement is valid imo.

2. if you prefer to remove my posts thats ok, but anyway I prefer not to post again.. and besides you are also over reacting!

Up until this point the thread was fine. Its easy to have a difference of opinion on such a sensitive topic but the opinions have been voiced without any loss of conduct. Im a Father as are many of the OOf'ers and we could voice deep down what we really think but i guarantee you we dont know everything.

Daz made a very good point earlier, If hes innocent and its all unfounded then fine, but if hes guilty then he should pay a hard price.
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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #71 on: 12 January 2012, 14:53:59 »

would  be interested to know if he's disputing the allegations.... And if the crown court date is for a trial, or sentencing..

But as you should know as Broocie does, Lee could get himself into trouble by actually saying anything.

I too hope if he is innocent he clears his name. On the other hand if he is guilty he gets what he deserves.

oh i totally agree daz, Im not suggesting Lee should post. Was just saying I'd be curious about the next stage :y
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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #72 on: 12 January 2012, 15:08:24 »

1.not a nice thread subject  :(
2.the newspaper pressing his picture before the court decision violating his rights..
3.I think it has served its purpose so must be locked..  :(

The thing is Cem, people on here have used him for work, and many rate him good enough to do a job. People who haven't read this can easily still ring him and ask him to do work. Now under no circumstances am I saying that he has committed any offence whatsoever, however I can't also say that he hasn't committed an offence. If he has committed the said offence then this needs to stay up and maybe be put as a sticky. This is an extremely serious allegation!

 As I said I'm not saying he has done anything of the sort, however if he has I wouldn't want him anywhere near my kids or anyone else's for that matter, words can't describe what I think of people who do this, but I point out again, until he is/isn't found guilty no one at all can pass judgement. This defiantly in my eyes needs to be a thread which is kept near the top of the page, just incase it is true.

whats the relation between mechanics work and porno ?

please distinguish between different things.. I think most members here showing over reaction..

even if he is guilty ,  (and in that case court will give the punishment not us) is it necessary to make him suffer without any job..

if you are scared for your children keep them away.. thats it.. no need for witch hunt ???

Cem, from a Fathers point of view, now personally I don't know if you have children or not, but myself as a father find this an extremely serious allegation, and I feel quite strongly about it. If there was a person interested in child pornography as the allegation has said then I sure as hell wouldn't want him around my kids. The point of this thread is that, if people get work done by him and he is in fact guilty, what could he do to one of those children? No one here has over reacted in anyway shape or form. No one here is punishing him at all, as pretty much everyone on this topic has said including myself, that he is innocent until proven guilty. However this doesn't get away from the fact, that this is a very serious allegation, and isn't one to be taken lightly.

The part I've highlighted answers your own question, if you said to any parent, be it a Mum or a Dad, that you've got a guy who could do your mechanics on an Omega, but he's had an allegation of child porn made against him, would you honestly want that man around your kids? I'm pretty sure 100% of parents would agree with me on this and the answer is no I wouldn't. This is regardless of it being an allegation or what, because there is a chance that it is true, just as there is a chance it isn't.
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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #73 on: 12 January 2012, 15:14:47 »

Well said and put Del :y
Pretty certain most will agree with that.

Just to add to that, most adults would not want to be around anyone like that, let alone their children.
« Last Edit: 12 January 2012, 15:20:11 by Darth Loo-knee »
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Re: Please read if you have children
« Reply #74 on: 12 January 2012, 15:22:15 »

1.not a nice thread subject  :(
2.the newspaper pressing his picture before the court decision violating his rights..
3.I think it has served its purpose so must be locked..  :(

The thing is Cem, people on here have used him for work, and many rate him good enough to do a job. People who haven't read this can easily still ring him and ask him to do work. Now under no circumstances am I saying that he has committed any offence whatsoever, however I can't also say that he hasn't committed an offence. If he has committed the said offence then this needs to stay up and maybe be put as a sticky. This is an extremely serious allegation!

 As I said I'm not saying he has done anything of the sort, however if he has I wouldn't want him anywhere near my kids or anyone else's for that matter, words can't describe what I think of people who do this, but I point out again, until he is/isn't found guilty no one at all can pass judgement. This defiantly in my eyes needs to be a thread which is kept near the top of the page, just incase it is true.

whats the relation between mechanics work and porno ?

please distinguish between different things.. I think most members here showing over reaction..

even if he is guilty ,  (and in that case court will give the punishment not us) is it necessary to make him suffer without any job..

if you are scared for your children keep them away.. thats it.. no need for witch hunt ???

Cem, from a Fathers point of view, now personally I don't know if you have children or not, but myself as a father find this an extremely serious allegation, and I feel quite strongly about it. If there was a person interested in child pornography as the allegation has said then I sure as hell wouldn't want him around my kids. The point of this thread is that, if people get work done by him and he is in fact guilty, what could he do to one of those children? No one here has over reacted in anyway shape or form. No one here is punishing him at all, as pretty much everyone on this topic has said including myself, that he is innocent until proven guilty. However this doesn't get away from the fact, that this is a very serious allegation, and isn't one to be taken lightly.

The part I've highlighted answers your own question, if you said to any parent, be it a Mum or a Dad, that you've got a guy who could do your mechanics on an Omega, but he's had an allegation of child porn made against him, would you honestly want that man around your kids? I'm pretty sure 100% of parents would agree with me on this and the answer is no I wouldn't. This is regardless of it being an allegation or what, because there is a chance that it is true, just as there is a chance it isn't.

please read my above posts .. there is the answer..
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