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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #75 on: 21 January 2012, 21:55:53 »

i have always got part worn tyres never let me down and i go long distances i forgot to say i tow a caravan as well
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #76 on: 22 January 2012, 10:07:49 »

i have always got part worn tyres never let me down and i go long distances i forgot to say i tow a caravan as well
ignoring the rights and wrongs, if there are any, the point I'm trying to make is in the long run, it seems more expensive, as somebody else has already had the best of them, yet you still pay a high price for, at most, half of the life, and the worse half at that....

does that make sense?
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #77 on: 22 January 2012, 10:30:19 »

i have always got part worn tyres never let me down and i go long distances i forgot to say i tow a caravan as well
ignoring the rights and wrongs, if there are any, the point I'm trying to make is in the long run, it seems more expensive, as somebody else has already had the best of them, yet you still pay a high price for, at most, half of the life, and the worse half at that....

does that make sense?

yep.. too much.. this week bought 4 brand new goodyear UG8 for vectra C for a friend.. she had 4 winter tires (micheline alpine) and the thread depth was only approx 3 mms short than the original but tires being nearly 7 years old there were absolutely no grip ???   and she paid the price by loosing control on snow and hitting the kerb (this was the cheapest option) :D
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #78 on: 22 January 2012, 20:44:02 »

Kumho KU31's are reasonable budget tyres and under £60 a tyre. Part worns about 30 I suppose,with no provenance and most of the grip gone. I know what I would choose. But then saying that it wouldnt surprise me if others choose the part worn tyres. As someone said earlier it must be to do with being legal rather than safe?
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #79 on: 22 January 2012, 21:00:28 »

Does anyone know where all these part worns are sourced from btw and why they are sold with 5mm+ tread remaining?

And from people who buy them, do they get a matching set of four part worns.  Or are they different brands on each corner with varying tread depths?
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #80 on: 22 January 2012, 21:06:42 »

Most part worn tyres are sourced from Germany I beleive, due to the law being that tyres have to be changed on the same axle together (iirc)...   I also beleive that the 5mm minimum is UK spec for selling part worn tyres...

Personally, I would much rather use a brand name part worn over a budget ditch finder...
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #81 on: 22 January 2012, 21:18:50 »

Most part worn tyres are sourced from Germany I beleive, due to the law being that tyres have to be changed on the same axle together (iirc)...   I also beleive that the 5mm minimum is UK spec for selling part worn tyres...

Personally, I would much rather use a brand name part worn over a budget ditch finder...


Even though they may have been stored next to a radiator and are rock hard with absolutely no grip?
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #82 on: 22 January 2012, 21:32:35 »

Most part worn tyres are sourced from Germany I beleive, due to the law being that tyres have to be changed on the same axle together (iirc)...   I also beleive that the 5mm minimum is UK spec for selling part worn tyres...

Personally, I would much rather use a brand name part worn over a budget ditch finder...


Even though they may have been stored next to a radiator and are rock hard with absolutely no grip?

Or even removed from a crash damaged car where they may have smacked the kerb bloody hard giving you a weekened sidewall. Read a survey a while back (can't think where) which after testing part worns showed that 80% had hidden damage which could result in failure. You pays your money............
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #83 on: 22 January 2012, 21:36:23 »

Most part worn tyres are sourced from Germany I beleive, due to the law being that tyres have to be changed on the same axle together (iirc)...   I also beleive that the 5mm minimum is UK spec for selling part worn tyres...

Personally, I would much rather use a brand name part worn over a budget ditch finder...


Even though they may have been stored next to a radiator and are rock hard with absolutely no grip?
Yep!
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #84 on: 22 January 2012, 21:40:26 »

Let me clarify my question.

Why would people get rid of tyres with 5mm+ tread if there's nothing wrong with them?
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #85 on: 22 January 2012, 21:45:27 »

http://www.tyresafe.org/media-centre/latest-news/157-trading-standards%E2%80%99-investigation-reveals-part-worn-dangers

http://www.northlanarkshire.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=23315

http://www.britanniatyres.co.uk/partworn_tyres.php

All from different areas of the country.

So unless you have xray vision or some other superhuman ability that helps identify the structurally inadequate tyres, then I cannot see the benefits of taking on board this unecessary risk.
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #86 on: 22 January 2012, 21:49:13 »

for using a part worn tire (even if its a good brand), I'll check its production date.. if its older than 3 years no reason for me to buy it.. (assuming it has at least 6-7 mm thread depth)
 
 
and must note , its valid only for summer tires.. I'll never buy used winter tires..
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #87 on: 22 January 2012, 21:51:27 »

Most part worn tyres are sourced from Germany I beleive, due to the law being that tyres have to be changed on the same axle together (iirc)...   I also beleive that the 5mm minimum is UK spec for selling part worn tyres...

Personally, I would much rather use a brand name part worn over a budget ditch finder...


Even though they may have been stored next to a radiator and are rock hard with absolutely no grip?
Yep!

Personally I would rather choose not to do something I cant afford than to cut corners (especially with regards to safety). Others may think differently.
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #88 on: 22 January 2012, 23:00:52 »

Most part worn tyres are sourced from Germany I beleive, due to the law being that tyres have to be changed on the same axle together (iirc)...   I also beleive that the 5mm minimum is UK spec for selling part worn tyres...

Personally, I would much rather use a brand name part worn over a budget ditch finder...


Even though they may have been stored next to a radiator and are rock hard with absolutely no grip?
Yep!

Personally I would rather choose not to do something I cant afford than to cut corners (especially with regards to safety). Others may think differently.
So what your saying is, if you can't afford top quality tyres, you don't by any? Which for some means don't go to work or pay the mortgage either, if the cars not available, as it has no tyres on it...?
Always buy the best quality tyre for available budget, obviously. Others with less healthy waletts will think differantly for sure.

IME an old tyre will loose performance evenly between wet and dry grip.

Budget tyres can work deceptively well in the dry and be bloody dangerous in even mildly damp conditions. The difference in performance between wet and dry conditions is startling IMO.

Although others may have different experiences clearly.

Times are hard currently, as we all know. Part worns have their place, like it or not. Not to mention the complete waste if they're not used.
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Re: budget tyres...
« Reply #89 on: 22 January 2012, 23:07:24 »

Let me clarify my question.

Why would people get rid of tyres with 5mm+ tread if there's nothing wrong with them?

Many are taken off 'fleet' cars that'll be then fitted with brand-new tyres prior to those cars being released onto the second-hand market.

Whatever, I wouldn't entertain part-worns (regardless of 'guarantees' or apparent condition), as you don't know their history - simples.
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