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« Reply #120 on: 23 January 2013, 21:27:21 »

Ford? Josh please. ;)

Other option too early to be LS. Afaict.

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« Reply #121 on: 23 January 2013, 21:29:54 »

Probably a LT
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« Reply #122 on: 23 January 2013, 21:31:11 »

 ;D
I ask, as I'll be shipping some vehicles from New York to Soton in 8-12 weeks or so. The more vehicles I bring, the cheaper the shipping. I'll be using a RORO sevice, meaning the vehicle must be capable or moving under their own steam. But if you could pick up a cheap V8 it could cost as little as £300 to ship it here. My vehicles will eventually be UK reg'd, unsure of the process if you want to bring one here for the parts though, i.e. with tax etc?
But worth considering perhaps?

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« Reply #123 on: 23 January 2013, 21:41:07 »

So New York area, must be drive able. Off to eBay. ;)
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« Reply #124 on: 23 January 2013, 21:45:23 »

Actually Chris, it's something Al and I had discussed...look at Copart USA. They have a yard in NY  :y

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« Reply #125 on: 23 January 2013, 22:24:01 »

I have a pallet of LS engines coming across the pond as we speak.

my own thoughts are .....

highly-strung 4-valve engines are fine and produce the power they're designed to, but they all come from emmissions-land, so you're never going to find one with decent horsepower in standard form. Tuning only chases the peak power speed upwards, so that's out. But all this is quite literally blown into the weeds by any of the fuel-injected Chevy motors, even the earlier LT.

Consider :- for my £5000, I bought a Holden GTS with an LS1 already fitted. I challenge you to find me another car which will carry five people with ease, will pull away from traffic lights in sixth gear, clear six seconds to sixty mph and return 32mpg without trying. (not all at the same time, obviously). As well as that, it sounds like the approach of the four horsemen of the apocalypse. My mates at the last trackday I did in it reckoned that it was just about the most butch car ever built.

The biggest problem I have is that if an LS1 Omega is to be built, it must come in under £5k or so, otherwise you might just as well go out and by another Holden, no ?

Technically, I think its no real problem. I'm certainly not concerned by the steering box issue or cooling. I've got a good recipe for rear axle, driveshafts, brakes, engine and transmission. For what its worth, I'm not sure that the Tremec T56 is the way forward, there are better solutions in T5 and TR6060 with much superior change quality.

Happy to do a deal on my spare LS1. I'd actually be quite happy to build the car for you.
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« Reply #126 on: 23 January 2013, 22:24:34 »

About time you brought a 2.5DTi to Blighty's shores young Mr Wyatt.... Should then simply be a case of bolting / pop riveting / sellotaping the steering wheel on the correct side. Easy peasy...  ::)
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« Reply #127 on: 23 January 2013, 22:37:30 »

Actually Chris, it's something Al and I had discussed...look at Copart USA. They have a yard in NY  :y
Yes he did mention it, quietly. ;)
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« Reply #128 on: 23 January 2013, 23:07:13 »

I have a pallet of LS engines coming across the pond as we speak.

my own thoughts are .....

highly-strung 4-valve engines are fine and produce the power they're designed to, but they all come from emmissions-land, so you're never going to find one with decent horsepower in standard form. Tuning only chases the peak power speed upwards, so that's out. But all this is quite literally blown into the weeds by any of the fuel-injected Chevy motors, even the earlier LT.

Consider :- for my £5000, I bought a Holden GTS with an LS1 already fitted. I challenge you to find me another car which will carry five people with ease, will pull away from traffic lights in sixth gear, clear six seconds to sixty mph and return 32mpg without trying. (not all at the same time, obviously). As well as that, it sounds like the approach of the four horsemen of the apocalypse. My mates at the last trackday I did in it reckoned that it was just about the most butch car ever built.

The biggest problem I have is that if an LS1 Omega is to be built, it must come in under £5k or so, otherwise you might just as well go out and by another Holden, no ?

Technically, I think its no real problem. I'm certainly not concerned by the steering box issue or cooling. I've got a good recipe for rear axle, driveshafts, brakes, engine and transmission. For what its worth, I'm not sure that the Tremec T56 is the way forward, there are better solutions in T5 and TR6060 with much superior change quality.

Happy to do a deal on my spare LS1. I'd actually be quite happy to build the car for you.
Yes, Holden based v8 cars are dropping in price. Afaict. I think it would have to be sub 3k on the road, to be worthwhile project. Tbh. Which is a tall order.


But on the other hand, this isn't a cost conscious project anyway.


Plus there's insuring the bugger. Gulp.

« Last Edit: 23 January 2013, 23:09:20 by chrisgixer »
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feeutfo

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« Reply #129 on: 24 January 2013, 07:35:36 »

Although then again, the main reason for using the omega is the toy level. No remote window and sunroof locking. No rear blind. No cc. No memory functions. I'd get withdrawal symptoms without a colour nav screen. Etc etc on a gts. Vxr8 is abut better, but still not as complete as an omega in that respect.


My personal remit, is a one car does all approach. Having done track work on bikes it's clear a track orientated vehichke is obviously going to be way to focused and unpleasant on the road.
 This is a fast road car project, comfort, toys, fast powerful lazy motor, and I tight accurate chassis bring vital. A gt car I suppose would be more accutrate.

Having been driven in 2woodys gts it's clear, this is a project worth persuing IMO. It has an engine and brake and suspendion package that totally defy the weight of the car. It's tight, accurate, agile, bloody quick and massively comfortable. As is Robs Monaro of course. Impressive.  ...very impressive compared to an omega.
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« Reply #130 on: 24 January 2013, 12:18:10 »

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« Reply #131 on: 24 January 2013, 12:28:40 »

ok..assume that you solved all mechanical problems of ftting a v8 and a suitable gearbox(model still a question in my mind) how will you solve odo,dials,mid etc etc..  :-\ 
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feeutfo

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« Reply #132 on: 24 January 2013, 12:32:14 »

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feeutfo

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« Reply #133 on: 24 January 2013, 12:33:52 »

ok..assume that you solved all mechanical problems of ftting a v8 and a suitable gearbox(model still a question in my mind) how will you solve odo,dials,mid etc etc..  :-\ 
Same as I always do with anything electrical. Pm TheBoy or Kevin Wood. :-[  ;D
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feeutfo

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« Reply #134 on: 24 January 2013, 12:38:45 »

There are also aftermarket modules available for efi and abc/tc if you want to be Gay about it cem. ;)


...although abs and tc shouldn't be too hard for someone who knows whet they're doing. :-\

Efi, v8 ecu usually goes with the engine. But shouldn't be too hard with a mega squirt if it came to it, going by past conversations over a curry. :)
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