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[cem_devecioglu]

diesel and auto.. 




nope and nope.. 

Why not? My Merc is 

honestly not my cup of tea

[Van Helsing]

When all is said and done it's an Insignia. A car that comes with a  flabby arse that resembles a mutt taking a dump. The front is even more hideous....if that is possible.

The Insignia is like that girl you shagged when you were three sheets to the wind.  You remember, don't deny it.......the bint with the blotchy legs and  beard. Even after all these years the memory still has the power to make you shudder.

Good value though....

Tell me about it, still remember many years later, still I was single in those days and aged about 32 years I would put it just about anywhere................  This particular one was 57 though...... not such a problem these days though.............

[henryd]

diesel and auto.. 




nope and nope.. 

Why not? My Merc is 

So is my Touareg,I wouldn't want that with the fourth pedal

[Van Helsing]

diesel and auto.. 




nope and nope.. 

Why not? My Merc is 

Exactly......... But not in a Mercedes Benz.................

[cem_devecioglu]

I want neither a diseasel nor an auto , either be it a bugatti or a porsche full stop

[Varche]

In 30 years time you old gits (the current old gits will be dead of course) will be posting " do you remember when we used to debate which was be best manual/auto diesel/petrol" now we just debate which driverless car is best

[Van Helsing]

In 30 years time you old gits (the current old gits will be dead of course) will be posting " do you remember when we used to debate which was be best manual/auto diesel/petrol" now we just debate which driverless car is best

 

[Andy B]

diesel and auto.. 




nope and nope.. 

Why not? My Merc is 

honestly not my cup of tea

Good job it's my car then and not yours 

[Vamps]

diesel and auto.. 




nope and nope.. 

Why not? My Merc is 

honestly not my cup of tea

Good job it's my car then and not yours 

 

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Mine's a (BMW) Turbo Weasel Auto Omega, and to be honest, no complaints as a driving machine. I press the right pedal it goes, hardly anything, then a second later the revs rise, and it goes faster. Then I press the left pedal, and it slows down.

Personally I'm amazed the manual gearbox still exists in this century in all but the most driver-focused cars like Caterhams etc.. I'd imagine it's purely down to extra costs of manufacture and fractional lower mpg.. though that said catconverters, aircon, and about 400kg of extra lard that all cars seem to come with also have a detrimental affect on mpg, but people don't seem to mind that! 

[aaronjb]

So is my Touareg,I wouldn't want that with the fourth pedal

Hang on..

Accelerator, brake, clutch … fourth pedal?

[cem_devecioglu]

Personally I'm amazed the manual gearbox still exists in this century in all but the most driver-focused cars like Caterhams etc.. I'd imagine it's purely down to extra costs of manufacture and fractional lower mpg.. 

why ?   drivers who are capable of shifting still prefer manual..  2-3 litre 95 ron fuel difference per 100 km makes a lot of cost for the life time of car..

[cem_devecioglu]

So is my Touareg,I wouldn't want that with the fourth pedal

Hang on..

Accelerator, brake, clutch … fourth pedal?

 

[YZ250]

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Personally I'm amazed the manual gearbox still exists in this century in all but the most driver-focused cars like Caterhams etc.. I'd imagine it's purely down to extra costs of manufacture and fractional lower mpg.......

On the later bmw diesels the mpg of the auto is better around town than the manual and marginally quicker 0-60mph. 
Not much in it combined. 

[Andy B]

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why ?   drivers who are capable of shifting still prefer manual..  2-3 litre 95 ron fuel difference per 100 km makes a lot of cost for the life time of car..

Depends what kind of car. My Merc only comes in auto flavour and by all accounts, manual Mercs in general aren't impressive anyway. As above, if it was a Lotus 7 wanna be, then a manual would be the gearbox of choice ....... I have to admit, that the automated manual in our Smart would be better replaced with a proper manual gearbox.