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Title: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: The Sheriff on 08 January 2015, 18:59:26
I've just watched a report on a scheme to put millions of pounds into making roads safer for cyclists. It showed a man on a bike being treated very badly by motorists in a hurry. His parting shot was "Wouldn't it be better to arrive two minutes late than to kill someone. Think about it".

So I did.

If this cyclist held you up for two minutes on his journey, then it stands to reason he has held up other motorists as well. For the purpose of this exercise, I'm going to say ten. Ten motorists held up for two minutes equals 20 minutes....per day. If he makes that journey five days a week, thats one hour forty minutes. If he travels, say, 200 days a year thats about fourteen days. Fourteen 24 hour days is six weeks of eight hour working days.

SIX WEEKS WORK WASTED BECAUSE THIS INCONSIDERATE BASTID WANTS TO RIDE HIS BIKE!

Phew......


So.....if you kill, say, three cyclists and you get all your friends to do the same, this country will be back on it's feet in no time. You know it makes sense.  :y
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Vamps on 08 January 2015, 19:12:48
You have too much time on your hands Steve, do us a favor and go and watch Emmerdale.............. :y :y ;)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: The Sheriff on 08 January 2015, 19:23:29
You have too much time on your hands Steve, do us a favor and go and watch Emmerdale.............. :y :y ;)
No. If you watch too much telly you start using American spellings. Like favor instead of favour.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Vamps on 08 January 2015, 19:29:30
You have too much time on your hands Steve, do us a favor and go and watch Emmerdale.............. :y :y ;)
No. If you watch too much telly you start using American spellings. Like favor instead of favour.

Umph........... :P :P
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 08 January 2015, 19:35:00
You have too much time on your hands Steve, do us a favor and go and watch Emmerdale.............. :y :y ;)
No. If you watch too much telly you start using American spellings. Like favor instead of favour.

 :y ;D

PS I agree about cyclists.....you always see on utube or whatever how the cyclist with the headcam got cut up by a car.....but never see the clip when the cyclist jumped a red light....strange  ::)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: davieboy0312 on 08 January 2015, 20:26:22
I think they should be insured and pay road tax
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 4x4 on 08 January 2015, 20:36:50
And also take a cycling test aswell so they atleast know which side of road to be on  :-X
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Andy B on 08 January 2015, 20:40:34
You have too much time on your hands Steve, do us a favor and go and watch Emmerdale.............. :y :y ;)
No. If you watch too much telly you start using American spellings. Like favor instead of favour.

Thanks Steve ........... not just me then! :y :y
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: davieboy0312 on 08 January 2015, 20:46:02
Yea. They should have to take a test before being on the road.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Vamps on 08 January 2015, 20:51:15
You have too much time on your hands Steve, do us a favor and go and watch Emmerdale.............. :y :y ;)
No. If you watch too much telly you start using American spellings. Like favor instead of favour.

Thanks Steve ........... not just me then! :y :y

An you, yes you, you corrie watcher you.................... :P :P too............. :-*
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Andy B on 08 January 2015, 20:51:43
Yea. They should have to take a test before being on the road.

I passed my Cycling Proficiency Test in about 1972 ..... would that count?  ;D
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Andy B on 08 January 2015, 20:52:33
....
An you, yes you, you corrie watcher you.................... :P :P too............. :-*

Watch what?  ??? ???
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: davieboy0312 on 08 January 2015, 20:54:36
If your on the road you should have a licence, tax, insurance and mot just like everyone else on the road
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Vamps on 08 January 2015, 20:54:49
....
An you, yes you, you corrie watcher you.................... :P :P too............. :-*

Watch what?  ??? ???

Forgot, over you way tis called The Street................... ;) ;)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Vamps on 08 January 2015, 20:55:26
If your on the road you should have a licence, tax, insurance and mot just like everyone else on the road

What about Kids?
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Broomies Mate on 08 January 2015, 20:55:46
A test?  There is one, a Cycling Proficiency Test.  I'm sure we have all done one.

Much like a Forklift license.  Prove you can safely drive the thing, and you get a ticket.

It's not a recognised license though, and there is no license to ride a pushbike on the public roads.  And there we have the problem.  I would imagine most Peddle Pushers have a driving license, so they know the rules of the road.  They know that running a red light in a car will result in prosecution.  What they also know is, running a red light on their bicycle will be fine...... there are no plates, no ability to recognise them and issue such a fine.

They are bound by the same laws so why does a Motorcycle/car/bus/lorry require an individual and unique license plate, yet a bicycle can go unrecognised.

Boils my piss.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: davieboy0312 on 08 January 2015, 20:59:56
Everyone. Had a customer of mine come in for a new rear screen in her car. A cyclist forgot to brake and went head first through the back window.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: BazaJT on 08 January 2015, 21:22:09
Only way you'd be able to run them over round here is by driving on the pavement!That's where the vast majority ride and hurl abuse at pedestrians who may happen to get in their way,which is easy to do as none of them carry any kind of warning device[bell,horn etc.]to let you know they're closing in behind you!
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Andy B on 08 January 2015, 21:45:22
....
An you, yes you, you corrie watcher you.................... :P :P too............. :-*

Watch what?  ??? ???

Forgot, over you way tis called The Street................... ;) ;)

Not in the same room as me ..............  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 January 2015, 21:48:34
If your on the road you should have a licence, tax, insurance and mot just like everyone else on the road

What about Kids?
Here's a new concept for you... Parental Responsibility  :y

Unfortunately, like most well reasoned ideas, it'll never catch on :-\
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 January 2015, 21:50:35

What about Kids?
Here's a new concept for you... Condoms  :y

Unfortunately, like most well reasoned ideas, it'll never catch on :-\

 :-X
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: The Sheriff on 08 January 2015, 22:11:34
Yes yes yes. This talk is all very well but are we up for direct action or not? Piccies will be needed as proof of any kills or, even better, a video.
The future of out economy is in your hands. If a cyclist is holding up traffic, just aim, close your eyes and think of your children.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Vamps on 08 January 2015, 22:28:51
If your on the road you should have a licence, tax, insurance and mot just like everyone else on the road

What about Kids?
Here's a new concept for you... Parental Responsibility  :y

Unfortunately, like most well reasoned ideas, it'll never catch on :-\

Miss Vamps did cycling training in Primary School............ :y :y
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 January 2015, 22:30:52
Well, all these people taken to their bicycles having been inspired to don the lycra by the likes of Wiggins and Froom, have lessened demand for oil which has resulted in the lower fuel prices we are enjoying!  :y

Get on yer bikes lads, I'll still be in my nice warm comfy Omega though!  ;D
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 January 2015, 22:41:05
If your on the road you should have a licence, tax, insurance and mot just like everyone else on the road

What about Kids?
Here's a new concept for you... Parental Responsibility  :y

Unfortunately, like most well reasoned ideas, it'll never catch on :-\

Miss Vamps did cycling training in Primary School............ :y :y
That wasn't meant as a directed comment ;) Royal you and all that...

I never did cycling proficiency, and as a result ride as though I am a car. That way, if some wants to overtake, then they have to actually consider the manoeuvre rather than trying to squeeze past... equally I won't ride on pavements or through red lights, and if I am in traffic, I stay in traffic... suffice to say, I tend to drive most places :-X
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Vamps on 08 January 2015, 22:47:37
If your on the road you should have a licence, tax, insurance and mot just like everyone else on the road

What about Kids?
Here's a new concept for you... Parental Responsibility  :y

Unfortunately, like most well reasoned ideas, it'll never catch on :-\

Miss Vamps did cycling training in Primary School............ :y :y
That wasn't meant as a directed comment ;) Royal you and all that...

I never did cycling proficiency, and as a result ride as though I am a car. That way, if some wants to overtake, then they have to actually consider the manoeuvre rather than trying to squeeze past... equally I won't ride on pavements or through red lights, and if I am in traffic, I stay in traffic... suffice to say, I tend to drive most places :-X

I did, aged about 12/13 got 99% only loosing a point because I called a staggered junction a jaggered junction........... :( :(

However, I do understand your point. As a driver, IAM and with a full Motorcycle, HGV and PSV licence, I feel, as a car driver, that I understand 'others'  needs for space, as an example and try to drive with this in mind at all times............. :y :y
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 January 2015, 22:50:16
Funnily enough, it was a coach driver at school who taught me the concept, and it always stuck :y
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 January 2015, 00:18:37
Usual anti cyclist rants. Nothing to see here. <terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired!> ::)

So, we want the government to impose testing, licensing, number plates, insurance and excise duty on a zero emissions, healthy option method of transport they have been trying to promote for years, in the run up to an election. Good luck with that one. Actually, give mr. Farage a call. You never know. :D
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 January 2015, 00:22:41
I failed my Cycling Proficiency Test.  :-[
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 January 2015, 00:55:51
I failed my Cycling Proficiency Test.  :-[
At least you took it...

If it makes you feel better I had to retake GCSE English :-[
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Varche on 09 January 2015, 00:57:07
Tolerant lot aren't you  >:(

When motorists have to lose their freedom e.g. Have to use driverless car or car is controlled by GPS people will hark back to these days and realise a bit of live and let live wouldn't go

Meanwhile what about horses and runners and people walking, oh and tractors crawling along..? Shouldn't be allowed Mavis
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Rods2 on 09 January 2015, 01:43:38
Usual anti cyclist rants. Nothing to see here. <terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired!> ::)

So, we want the government to impose testing, licensing, number plates, insurance and excise duty on a zero emissions, healthy option method of transport they have been trying to promote for years, in the run up to an election. Good luck with that one. Actually, give mr. Farage a call. You never know. :D

Not after I've ridden my bike and refueled, their isn't. :o :o :o

They should ban all cars as they are unnecessary for the majority of people who can get around perfectly well by walking, cycling and using public transport. :P :P :P This would leave the roads clear for commercial vehicles, so they can get from A to B much quicker and millions of cyclists of course.  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: aaronjb on 09 January 2015, 09:05:29
When motorists have to lose their freedom e.g. Have to use driverless car or car is controlled by GPS people will hark back to these days and realise a bit of live and let live wouldn't go

You mean like when someone makes a rule saying we can only fit manufacturers OE wheels to our cars? ;)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: brendan1983 on 09 January 2015, 11:56:49
I cycle to work quite often, if more people did it then there would be less traffic on the roads - and people would be fitter/healthier

I do think though there are some idiot cyclists out there - the number that ignore traffic lights, road markings, pretty much everything - or have no lights, or almost even worse have blindingly bright badly adjusted flashing lights.

Not sure how you enforce licencing/insurance etc for bikes though...

A good option would be make road tax for motorcycles free, why should road tax be £80 a year for a 600cc+ yet some cars are free? That might encourage more people to ride, and also reduce traffic.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Gaffers on 09 January 2015, 12:17:43
You have too much time on your hands Steve, do us a favor and go and watch Emmerdale.............. :y :y ;)
No. If you watch too much telly you start using American spellings. Like favor instead of favour.

 :y ;D

PS I agree about cyclists.....you always see on utube or whatever how the cyclist with the headcam got cut up by a car.....but never see the clip when the cyclist jumped a red light....strange  ::)

look up the youtube channel sillycyclists which is run by........drumroll.......a cyclist!
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 January 2015, 12:19:30
Much like a Forklift license.  Prove you can safely drive the thing, and you get a ticket.

No such thing, these is only a certificate of competency (and in my experience, those with the likes of the J cert are often worse than those who have been suitably trained and don't have it!)  :y

Furthermore, the Cert is acceptable to almost no where these days.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Gaffers on 09 January 2015, 12:43:00
I love it when sh!t like this gets posted on a car forum.  It shows people's various level of intelligence.


And if you dont believe that......


So please, lets have a reasoned debate about the subject rather than all this childish and frankly dangerous mud-slinging.  The fact that someone slows you down, or runs through a red light is no reason to do them harm.  Those who break the law should be punished, yes, but by the police.  Indeed I lay the blame for today's lack of tolerance for cyclists squarely at their feet for failing to do their job and punish those cyclists who f#0% around.


Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Gaffers on 09 January 2015, 12:45:47
Oh and shall we extend the logic of killing those motorists who slow me down when I am cycling?  I overtook 1 tractor and 2 cars who were doing less than 30mph the other day.

Shall we line them up and beat the to death with our bike locks? ::)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 January 2015, 12:49:46
Shooting them would be less messy :P

It is a fair point you make though... and one which applies to most activities :y
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: The Sheriff on 09 January 2015, 12:58:33
Oh and shall we extend the logic of killing those motorists who slow me down when I am cycling?  I overtook 1 tractor and 2 cars who were doing less than 30mph the other day.

Shall we line them up and beat the to death with our bike locks? ::)
Of course we should kill them too. :y I'll add them to the list. ;D
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Gaffers on 09 January 2015, 13:30:27
Oh and shall we extend the logic of killing those motorists who slow me down when I am cycling?  I overtook 1 tractor and 2 cars who were doing less than 30mph the other day.

Shall we line them up and beat the to death with our bike locks? ::)
Of course we should kill them too. :y I'll add them to the list. ;D

Should I be riding in Wakefield and see Daewoo, I'll be sure to pedal like break to overtake it then :P
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: The Sheriff on 09 January 2015, 13:46:52
Oh and shall we extend the logic of killing those motorists who slow me down when I am cycling?  I overtook 1 tractor and 2 cars who were doing less than 30mph the other day.

Shall we line them up and beat the to death with our bike locks? ::)
Of course we should kill them too. :y I'll add them to the list. ;D

Should I be riding in Wakefield and see Daewoo, I'll be sure to pedal like break to overtake it then :P
I've moved from Wakey  :P
Obviously not telling you where, I don't want to die  :-X
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 January 2015, 13:51:14
Oh and shall we extend the logic of killing those motorists who slow me down when I am cycling?  I overtook 1 tractor and 2 cars who were doing less than 30mph the other day.

Shall we line them up and beat the to death with our bike locks? ::)
Of course we should kill them too. :y I'll add them to the list. ;D

Should I be riding in Wakefield and see Daewoo, I'll be sure to pedal like break to overtake it then :P
I've moved to Barnsley :P
Obviously not telling you where, but it's the only white Orlando in the town  :-X
You're going to die eventually,  so you might as well pop your postcode up ::)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: The Sheriff on 09 January 2015, 13:57:45
Oh and shall we extend the logic of killing those motorists who slow me down when I am cycling?  I overtook 1 tractor and 2 cars who were doing less than 30mph the other day.

Shall we line them up and beat the to death with our bike locks? ::)
Of course we should kill them too. :y I'll add them to the list. ;D

Should I be riding in Wakefield and see Daewoo, I'll be sure to pedal like break to overtake it then :P
I've moved to Barnsley :P
Obviously not telling you where, but it's the only white Orlando in the town  :-X
You're going to die eventually,  so you might as well pop your postcode up ::)
White? Only policemen and taxi drivers drive a white vehicle. Surely no one would do it by choice  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 January 2015, 14:01:16
Don't tell me, yours is green ::)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Bigron on 09 January 2015, 14:02:29
Cyclists are NOT carbon-friendly (whatever that means); a cyclist pedalling away, especially uphill, breathes out more CO2 thab a car and passengers who are sitting relaxed and breathing gently.
That assumes that CO2 is the enemy anyway, and lots of independent scientific opinion - i.e. that which is not funded by Government grants, etc., have the view that CO2 is simply not a factor in climate change.
However, I certainly do think that cyclists should be identifiable in the same way as motorists and answerable for their misdemeanours. Paying a fee, whatever you call it, will fund the issue of licence plates and enable our overworked police to penalise them as easily as they do motorists.
Incidentally, as most traffic penalties have little to do with safety and mostly for revenue generation, why not enforce the £30 on-the-spot fines for cycling on the pavement and jumping red lights, etc? I would be happy to volunteer to collect such fines, on a part-time basis, for a 10% commission!

Ron.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 January 2015, 14:04:10
Being paid a commission does rather negate the volunteering element ::)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Gaffers on 09 January 2015, 14:10:14
Cyclists are NOT carbon-friendly (whatever that means); a cyclist pedalling away, especially uphill, breathes out more CO2 thab a car and passengers who are sitting relaxed and breathing gently.

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll224/SmokeJumperFirearms/SMILEYS/ROFLSMALL.gif)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Bigron on 09 January 2015, 14:10:53
Oh Al, you spotted a flaw in my proposition - I only wanted to supplement my meagre pension and help keep my Omega running!
Ron.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 January 2015, 14:24:28
Cyclists are NOT carbon-friendly (whatever that means); a cyclist pedalling away, especially uphill, breathes out more CO2 thab a car and passengers who are sitting relaxed and breathing gently.

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll224/SmokeJumperFirearms/SMILEYS/ROFLSMALL.gif)

Yeah, I wish I could breathe out the same 287g/km that my Omega does. I quite fancy a 217BHP pair of lungs. :D
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 January 2015, 14:52:34
I quite fancy a 217BHP pair of lungs. :D

I know a girl who has a pair of those!  :-*  :D  ;D
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Gaffers on 09 January 2015, 14:53:54
I quite fancy a 217BHP pair of lungs. :D

I know a girl who has a pair of those!  :-*  :D  ;D

Yes but do they work in reverse?  ::)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: aaronjb on 09 January 2015, 14:57:59
I quite fancy a 217BHP pair of lungs. :D

I know a girl who has a pair of those!  :-*  :D  ;D

Yes but do they work in reverse?  ::)

Who'd want a pair of lungs that de-oxygenate the blood?  :P
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Nick W on 09 January 2015, 14:58:10
Cyclists are NOT carbon-friendly (whatever that means); a cyclist pedalling away, especially uphill, breathes out more CO2 thab a car and passengers who are sitting relaxed and breathing gently.

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll224/SmokeJumperFirearms/SMILEYS/ROFLSMALL.gif)

It gets even more ridiculous when you subtract the CO2 that the cyclist would have exhaled anyway, and the other waste products are a similar deal.  Consider that the majority of a cycle's weight is the integrated load/powerplant/operator, that it is made from a small quantity of long-lasting materials and that a properly adjusted/lubricated chain drive is very efficient. Put all that together, and you've got the most ecologically sound vehicle
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Gaffers on 09 January 2015, 15:00:30
An average human exhales about 1kg of CO2 a day.  But it's part of the carbon cycle so it doesn't count.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 January 2015, 15:00:47
Be fair to say that a bike is only as efficient as the person riding it... and I'll stop there :-X
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 January 2015, 15:01:38
An average human exhales about 1kg of CO2 a day.  But it's part of the carbon cycle so it doesn't count.
Arguably fossil fuels are part of the carbon cycle too...  ::)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Gaffers on 09 January 2015, 15:10:29
I quite fancy a 217BHP pair of lungs. :D

I know a girl who has a pair of those!  :-*  :D  ;D

Yes but do they work in reverse?  ::)

Who'd want a pair of lungs that de-oxygenate the blood?  :P

Nope but 217bhp breathing in sounds  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: aaronjb on 09 January 2015, 15:11:38
I quite fancy a 217BHP pair of lungs. :D

I know a girl who has a pair of those!  :-*  :D  ;D

Yes but do they work in reverse?  ::)

Who'd want a pair of lungs that de-oxygenate the blood?  :P

Nope but 217bhp breathing in sounds  :D :D :D :D

Like it'd suck it straight off your body.. ;D
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: The Sheriff on 09 January 2015, 15:18:28
Don't tell me, yours is green ::)
No. It's quite polluting.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Bigron on 09 January 2015, 16:30:35
As I am on the side of the independent scientists who understand that CO2 is NOT a factor in polluting our planet and causing climate change and the only reason why Governments of any colour insist that it is a major (only) factor, is to brainwash us into feeling guilty and compliant in paying extra taxes for our "naughtiness"!
I do not dispute that climate change is taking place, but man is not responsible - sun activity is: there is a short-term cycle of sunspot intensity of around 11 years and a longer term cycle of major activity of around 200 years. Guess where we are in the major cycle now?
Should we worry?
I believe not, because even if CO2 were a tiny part responsible (it ain't!), the earth is a F***ING big machine and will cope with the extra CO2. In deep ocean, there are huge "fields" of algae which grow as atmospheric CO2 increases and absorbtion and conversely of course, shrink back at lower concentrations. Therefore I refuse to be railroaded into feeling guilty by any Government and resent their attemts to milk me, as a road and energy user, into paying punitive prices for something which is not my fault......

Ron.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: ronnyd on 09 January 2015, 17:12:00
I,m a very keen cyclist and, sad to say, a lot of cyclists give it a bad name. I think that some form of registration
wouldn,t be a bad thing. ???
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 January 2015, 17:50:53
The thing is, there are plenty of complete idiots driving on the roads these days. Doesn't it follow that a similar proportion of cyclists are bound to be similarly afflicted? ::)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Rods2 on 09 January 2015, 20:27:50
Oh and shall we extend the logic of killing those motorists who slow me down when I am cycling?  I overtook 1 tractor and 2 cars who were doing less than 30mph the other day.

Shall we line them up and beat the to death with our bike locks? ::)
Of course we should kill them too. :y I'll add them to the list. ;D

Sounds like by the time you have gone through your list, the roads will be mostly cyclist and traffic free!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Rods2 on 09 January 2015, 20:30:25
Oh and shall we extend the logic of killing those motorists who slow me down when I am cycling?  I overtook 1 tractor and 2 cars who were doing less than 30mph the other day.

Shall we line them up and beat the to death with our bike locks? ::)
Of course we should kill them too. :y I'll add them to the list. ;D

Should I be riding in Wakefield and see Daewoo, I'll be sure to pedal like break to overtake it then :P
I've moved from Wakey  :P
Obviously not telling you where, I don't want to die  :-X

Moved from HMP Wakefield then?
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: The Sheriff on 09 January 2015, 20:34:04
Oh and shall we extend the logic of killing those motorists who slow me down when I am cycling?  I overtook 1 tractor and 2 cars who were doing less than 30mph the other day.

Shall we line them up and beat the to death with our bike locks? ::)
Of course we should kill them too. :y I'll add them to the list. ;D

Sounds like by the time you have gone through your list, the roads will be mostly cyclist and traffic free!  :o :o :o
Bliss  :-*
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Vamps on 09 January 2015, 20:38:29
Oh and shall we extend the logic of killing those motorists who slow me down when I am cycling?  I overtook 1 tractor and 2 cars who were doing less than 30mph the other day.

Shall we line them up and beat the to death with our bike locks? ::)
Of course we should kill them too. :y I'll add them to the list. ;D

Should I be riding in Wakefield and see Daewoo, I'll be sure to pedal like break to overtake it then :P
I've moved from Wakey  :P
Obviously not telling you where, I don't want to die  :-X

Moved from HMP Wakefield then?

Getting dangerously close, only 100 miles between us........... ::) ::) :o
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: D on 10 January 2015, 02:18:28
Cyclists are NOT carbon-friendly (whatever that means); a cyclist pedalling away, especially uphill, breathes out more CO2 thab a car and passengers who are sitting relaxed and breathing gently.

However, I certainly do think that cyclists should be identifiable in the same way as motorists and answerable for their misdemeanours. Paying a fee, whatever you call it, will fund the issue of licence plates and enable our overworked police to penalise them as easily as they do motorists.
Incidentally, as most traffic penalties have little to do with safety and mostly for revenue generation, why not enforce the £30 on-the-spot fines for cycling on the pavement and jumping red lights, etc? I would be happy to volunteer to collect such fines, on a part-time basis, for a 10% commission!

Ron.

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Oh wait, were you actually being serious?  :o
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: DrAndyB on 10 January 2015, 08:49:34
Hum, I am a regular cyclist who commutes 40 miles a day to work AND I am also a motorist who also drives his Omega  :y so have a foot in both camps here.

I keep out the way of cars and obey the rules of the highway code if I am on 2 or 4 wheels.  That is what I would expect others to do but clearly there are Lycra MANIMAL louts who spoil it and give us considerate cyclists a bad name, but equality there are many motorists who give drivers a bad name.

If everybody just took a deep breath for a minute and respected and recognised each other then the world would be much pleasant place.

Lesson in stating the bleeding obvious noweth ends !
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 78bex on 10 January 2015, 19:08:48
Hum, I am a regular cyclist who commutes 40 miles a day to work AND I am also a motorist who also drives his Omega  :y so have a foot in both camps here.

I keep out the way of cars and obey the rules of the highway code if I am on 2 or 4 wheels.  That is what I would expect others to do but clearly there are Lycra MANIMAL louts who spoil it and give us considerate cyclists a bad name, but equality there are many motorists who give drivers a bad name.

If everybody just took a deep breath for a minute and respected and recognised each other then the world would be much pleasant place.

Lesson in stating the bleeding obvious noweth ends

I had a similar bloke right on my nearside rear wing with a searchlight LED lamp.
Everytime I braked. he was screaming at me to, "GO ON THEN" what the hell he was going on about I do not know;  the traffic was creepin along at walking pace. When we got to  a set of red lights he just rode straight thru >:(
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: DrAndyB on 10 January 2015, 20:53:26
Hum, I am a regular cyclist who commutes 40 miles a day to work AND I am also a motorist who also drives his Omega  :y so have a foot in both camps here.

I keep out the way of cars and obey the rules of the highway code if I am on 2 or 4 wheels.  That is what I would expect others to do but clearly there are Lycra MANIMAL louts who spoil it and give us considerate cyclists a bad name, but equality there are many motorists who give drivers a bad name.

If everybody just took a deep breath for a minute and respected and recognised each other then the world would be much pleasant place.

Lesson in stating the bleeding obvious noweth ends

I had a similar bloke right on my nearside rear wing with a searchlight LED lamp.
Everytime I braked. he was screaming at me to, "GO ON THEN" what the hell he was going on about I do not know;  the traffic was creepin along at walking pace. When we got to  a set of red lights he just rode straight thru >:(

Yep, that is EXACTLY the thing that really annoys me as a regular cyclist. 

I always stop at the lights on my bike, and the funny thing is I always catch Lycra MANIMAL up again when they change to green again to their annoyance as I cruise along side their bike on mine ! 

It does bring a smile to my face as I than cruise past them and dissapear in the distance on my old commuting mountain bike (panniers and all !!) with them on their light weight carbon fangled things wondering why they can't keep up with the bike in front which is probably 3x the weight as well !!  Get up earlier dear boy and put some effort in !!! (cos next time I may be in my MIG rather than normally in the saddle :y )
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 January 2015, 21:16:07
I nearly eliminated a cyclist the other day.  :(

I was going along a country B road with overhanging trees, where even on a sunny day it can be a little dark, doing about 50 or 60 and it was late afternoon so the light was fading.  Suddenly there's a cyclist in front of me and I went around him OK, but had something been coming the other way it could have been messy!  :o  It was one of these Wiggins wannabees on a racing bike and the prick had no lights and was wearing black and grey lycra!  ::)  >:(

Now I'm generally fine about cyclists as there are pricks in cars, trucks, buses and on motorbikes too and I think that calls for cyclists to be registered and insured is nonsense really, as we have too much control and bureaucracy in this country as it is.  ::)  Jumping on a bicycle and wobbling off down the road is probably one of the last fun, free and unregulated activity there is and long may it continue!  :y

I wish though that cyclists would wear hi viz clothing, as I really really don't want the death of some lycra wearing pillock who thinks he looks cool or the bloke heading home from work on his old mountain bike wearing an old Barbour jacket on my conscience thanks!  :(
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: The Sheriff on 10 January 2015, 21:25:13
I nearly eliminated a cyclist the other day.   :y :y

I wish though that cyclists would not wear hi viz clothing, as I really really want the death of some lycra wearing pillock who thinks he looks cool or the bloke heading home from work on his old mountain bike wearing an old Barbour jacket on my scorecard  :D
Nice one, Tigger. You can be in my gang. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 January 2015, 21:28:01
I nearly eliminated a cyclist the other day.   :y :y

I wish though that cyclists would not wear hi viz clothing, as I really really want the death of some lycra wearing pillock who thinks he looks cool or the bloke heading home from work on his old mountain bike wearing an old Barbour jacket on my scorecard  :D
Nice one, Tigger. You can be in my gang. ;D ;D

Oh for oppss sake, when ever I put my serious head on, you pop up drag me back down to your level!  >:(  :D  :y
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: The Sheriff on 10 January 2015, 21:29:43
I nearly eliminated a cyclist the other day.   :y :y

I wish though that cyclists would not wear hi viz clothing, as I really really want the death of some lycra wearing pillock who thinks he looks cool or the bloke heading home from work on his old mountain bike wearing an old Barbour jacket on my scorecard  :D
Nice one, Tigger. You can be in my gang. ;D ;D

Oh for oppss sake, when ever I put my serious head on, you pop up and make me realise that I am talking shite :D  :y
You're welcome mate  :y
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 January 2015, 21:33:33
Most Daewoo owners are the far side of a hundred years old. They wipe out hundreds of cyclists/bikers every day totally unaware of their actions. :)

Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: The Sheriff on 10 January 2015, 21:34:57
Most Daewoo owners are the far side of a hundred years old. They wipe out hundreds of cyclists/bikers every day totally unaware of their actions. :)
That's what we claim.... ::)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: tidla on 10 January 2015, 22:33:00
Skimmed thru this thread and my conclusion is..

Plant a mother or two or trees in yer garden. job jobbed.

shame they seem to be culling them at a alarming rate in some parts of the planet.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: The Sheriff on 10 January 2015, 22:34:14
Skimmed thru this thread and my conclusion is..

Plant a mother or two or trees in yer garden. job jobbed.

shame they seem to be culling them at a alarming rate in some parts of the planet.

Keep taking the pills, lad.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: D on 11 January 2015, 00:39:09
I nearly eliminated a cyclist the other day.  :(

I wish though that cyclists would wear hi viz clothing, as I really really don't want the death of some lycra wearing pillock who thinks he looks cool or the bloke heading home from work on his old mountain bike wearing an old Barbour jacket on my conscience thanks!  :(

Playing devils advocate, perhaps you should have a read of this link (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22062342)

If you cannot be bothered to read all of it, it essentially it opines that environments may differ over even fairly small changes in time or location, there is not likely to be a one-size-fits-all solution. ie high vis is not the all encompassing answer you seek. On the other hand most decent cyclists would have decent or very good front and rear lights.

As you notice in everyday driving, there are idiots in both communities, don't tar them all with the same brush.
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 January 2015, 01:41:47
As you notice in everyday driving, there are idiots in both communities, don't tar them all with the same brush.

I didn't.  If you read my post properly you'd have noticed the bit where I point out that there are pricks using all forms of transport.  ;)
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 78bex on 11 January 2015, 16:43:23
There you go....... this Aussie blokes Mum tried to bag one of the bludgers, "he stuck his arse thru the windscreen"; of her Starlet   :-X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpgu-GprQ9w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpgu-GprQ9w)

Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 January 2015, 17:33:36
Whoa! STMO's gang's gone global!!  :D  ;D
Title: Re: Cyclists and the economy
Post by: 78bex on 11 January 2015, 18:53:47
Whoa! STMO's gang's gone global!!  :D  ;D

Errrmm so the lady could obviously see a new car on the horizon after matey boy did a "tuck & roll" over the bonnet. :y
The cyclist gets a nice stay in hospital & some compo & everyones a winner.
I think we need some STEMO window stickers printing up