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Title: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 16 December 2021, 15:40:38
It's going to cost me around £320 for these fickin things. My lad is travelling to Romania on 27th December, so..... £70 each for him and his girlfriend for day 2 tests when they get back, £20 each for lateral flow tests to take with them and £70 each for PCR test within 48 hours of travelling.
I thought I'd got away with it all, telling him that it would be impossible to get a test within 48 hours of travelling, because those 48 hours were Christmas Day and Boxing Day. But no, they have booked their tests in Leeds at 10:30 on Boxing Day.  :( I'll have to drive them there, wait and bring them home too. Double  :( :(
I'm going to be relying on boots the chemist to deliver the first two tests by next Friday, can't order before tomorrow when they come home because boots want a photo, picture of passport and colour of underwear on the booking. Treble  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 16 December 2021, 15:42:19
But not to worry, her dad paid for the flights. £37.50 each, return on Wizzair from Doncaster. And they will be feeding him some cabbage or the like while he's visiting, I don't think the vegan food choice is quite so extensive over there.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 16 December 2021, 15:45:18
Oh yes, travelling abroad now is, once again, not an easy, relatively cheap, thing to do.

Thank goodness I am not going to travel anywhere, but just dream on sitting on that beautiful, hot, beach somewhere!! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Varche on 16 December 2021, 16:09:48
PITA. I dread having to go ver to ( your Covid ridden) UK if my elderly Dad falls ill again. Had enough grief last time round.

Wont-be long before you are all equipped with your Covid freedom pass in order to get fuel or food.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 December 2021, 16:20:23
It's just hoops.

Considering a one night trip back to GC in Feb. Return flights are £40 if you choose carefully. Drive through (results in 15 minutes) predeparture test could be done on the way to the airport and the Day 2 test on the way home.

The Predeparture test should also cover the return flight from GC.

Similarly, the passenger locator form can be filled in on the bus from the carpark.

Paying the slight extra to get the testing as convenient as possible is money we'll spent IMHO.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 December 2021, 16:35:48
PITA. I dread having to go ver to ( your Covid ridden) UK if my elderly Dad falls ill again. Had enough grief last time round.

Wont-be long before you are all equipped with your Covid freedom pass in order to get fuel or food.

If other European countries did as much testing as we do I imagine that their case rates would be similar.  :)

We do twice as much testing as France, three times the amount Italy does and over five times the amount of tests Germany does!  :o

France and Germany recently had a surge in cases (pre omicon) and their daily cases were higher than the UK's despite doing less testing....  ;)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 December 2021, 16:42:39
Trust ze Germans to be more efficient  :D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 16 December 2021, 16:51:35
Trust ze Germans to be more efficient  :D
Or...to have many more cases than us but to hide them using the Donald Trump method.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 16 December 2021, 16:55:30
For instance; They have half as many new cases as us today, but more than twice as many deaths. You can hide one but not the other. People tend to notice when they've died.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 16 December 2021, 16:58:48
PITA. I dread having to go ver to ( your Covid ridden) UK if my elderly Dad falls ill again. Had enough grief last time round.

Wont-be long before you are all equipped with your Covid freedom pass in order to get fuel or food.
Spains figures are a joke. They don't even report at the weekend, and there's no way the Monday figures include the weekend.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 December 2021, 17:08:52
France waits until late in the day to report their stats, probably in the hope that no one will notice!  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 December 2021, 17:11:41
Talking of France.... Wasn't Malcolm planning a ski trip there over Christmas?  :-\  :(
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: ronnyd on 16 December 2021, 17:14:13
Isn't it now just the same as it used be when we were EU members. We(as a country) used abide by the "rules" far more than those countries on the mainland did. >:(
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 16 December 2021, 18:09:06
Steve those prices are really high. I’ve travelled a lot lately and have been getting them much cheaper. If you’d like me to PM details, I will
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 December 2021, 18:12:43
I got a box 7 of LFT's from my local pharmacy for free last week.  :y

That was before the omicon hysteria though....  :-\
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 16 December 2021, 18:22:00
Steve those prices are really high. I’ve travelled a lot lately and have been getting them much cheaper. If you’d like me to PM details, I will
Beggars can't be choosers, James, we've left it really late. I trust Boots to post out in time, and a Boxing Day test as close as Leeds is not to be sniffed at. Thanks anyway  :)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 16 December 2021, 18:22:25
I got a box 7 of LFT's from my local pharmacy for free last week.  :y

That was before the omicon hysteria though....  :-\
They're no good for travel, though.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Andy B on 16 December 2021, 18:25:45
I got a box 7 of LFT's from my local pharmacy for free last week.  :y

That was before the omicon hysteria though....  :-\

there were just 4 left at work last Friday ..... I picked up 2 packets
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Rangie on 16 December 2021, 18:26:32
Really couldn't be bothered with all the nonsense to go abroad now, will stick with walking & caravanning in the UK for the foreseeable future , at least being retired you can just go at the drop of a hat , plenty of places we've never been in this country.
The only place I would really like to see is Switzerland one day if we ever return to normality.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Andy B on 16 December 2021, 18:27:21
Really couldn't be bothered with all the nonsense to go abroad now, will stick with walking & caravanning in the UK for the foreseeable future ,  .....

likewise
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 December 2021, 18:44:40
Talking of France.... Wasn't Malcolm planning a ski trip there over Christmas?  :-\  :(
Not any more he won't...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 December 2021, 21:10:34
Talking of France.... Wasn't Malcolm planning a ski trip there over Christmas?  :-\  :(
Not any more he won't...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france

No... It's been all over the news today.  :-X    ;)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: LC0112G on 16 December 2021, 21:26:57
Talking of France.... Wasn't Malcolm planning a ski trip there over Christmas?  :-\  :(

I'm here in French France. Arrived 11th Dec, and we've changed out return to the UK to 22nd Dec so that we can get the Day2 UK PCR test done before Christmas eve. My second trip from Dec26th-Jan2nd is obviously in extreme doubt now though - If I leave France they won't let me back in again.

Locals here are pretty angry at Macron - about 50% of ski trade is British here in Tignes/Val D'Isere, and if they lose Christmas and New Year bookings they'll be in dire straights. We're doing out best to prop up the local economy, but there is only so much happy hour booze one can drink ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 December 2021, 21:59:33
Talking of France.... Wasn't Malcolm planning a ski trip there over Christmas?  :-\  :(

I'm here in French France. Arrived 11th Dec, and we've changed out return to the UK to 22nd Dec so that we can get the Day2 UK PCR test done before Christmas eve. My second trip from Dec26th-Jan2nd is obviously in extreme doubt now though - If I leave France they won't let me back in again.

Locals here are pretty angry at Macron - about 50% of ski trade is British here in Tignes/Val D'Isere, and if they lose Christmas and New Year bookings they'll be in dire straights. We're doing out best to prop up the local economy, but there is only so much happy hour booze one can drink ;D

Think I'd find a good reason to stay!  :y

Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: LC0112G on 16 December 2021, 22:09:41
Talking of France.... Wasn't Malcolm planning a ski trip there over Christmas?  :-\  :(

I'm here in French France. Arrived 11th Dec, and we've changed out return to the UK to 22nd Dec so that we can get the Day2 UK PCR test done before Christmas eve. My second trip from Dec26th-Jan2nd is obviously in extreme doubt now though - If I leave France they won't let me back in again.

Locals here are pretty angry at Macron - about 50% of ski trade is British here in Tignes/Val D'Isere, and if they lose Christmas and New Year bookings they'll be in dire straights. We're doing out best to prop up the local economy, but there is only so much happy hour booze one can drink ;D

Think I'd find a good reason to stay!  :y

It's crossed my mind. Trouble is the people I'm with this week need to get back for Christmas (as do I really), and the family I'm supposed to be skiing with after Christmas won't be able to get here.

However, if Boris imposes 10 day lockdown on people returning from the EU then we may as well just stay put. Or if Macron orders the ski lifts to shut, then we'll just bolt for the tunnel.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 December 2021, 22:19:08
Talking of France.... Wasn't Malcolm planning a ski trip there over Christmas?  :-\  :(

I'm here in French France. Arrived 11th Dec, and we've changed out return to the UK to 22nd Dec so that we can get the Day2 UK PCR test done before Christmas eve. My second trip from Dec26th-Jan2nd is obviously in extreme doubt now though - If I leave France they won't let me back in again.

Locals here are pretty angry at Macron - about 50% of ski trade is British here in Tignes/Val D'Isere, and if they lose Christmas and New Year bookings they'll be in dire straights. We're doing out best to prop up the local economy, but there is only so much happy hour booze one can drink ;D

Think I'd find a good reason to stay!  :y

It's crossed my mind. Trouble is the people I'm with this week need to get back for Christmas (as do I really), and the family I'm supposed to be skiing with after Christmas won't be able to get here.

However, if Boris imposes 10 day lockdown on people returning from the EU then we may as well just stay put. Or if Macron orders the ski lifts to shut, then we'll just bolt for the tunnel.

Not seen any hint or mention of that here.  :-\

In fact they've just scrapped the red list country hotel quarantine system, on the basis that Omicon is already here in force and it made very little difference.   ::)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 December 2021, 01:36:28
Talking of France.... Wasn't Malcolm planning a ski trip there over Christmas?  :-\  :(

I'm here in French France. Arrived 11th Dec, and we've changed out return to the UK to 22nd Dec so that we can get the Day2 UK PCR test done before Christmas eve. My second trip from Dec26th-Jan2nd is obviously in extreme doubt now though - If I leave France they won't let me back in again.

Locals here are pretty angry at Macron - about 50% of ski trade is British here in Tignes/Val D'Isere, and if they lose Christmas and New Year bookings they'll be in dire straights. We're doing out best to prop up the local economy, but there is only so much happy hour booze one can drink ;D

Think I'd find a good reason to stay!  :y

It's crossed my mind. Trouble is the people I'm with this week need to get back for Christmas (as do I really), and the family I'm supposed to be skiing with after Christmas won't be able to get here.

However, if Boris imposes 10 day lockdown on people returning from the EU then we may as well just stay put. Or if Macron orders the ski lifts to shut, then we'll just bolt for the tunnel.
Send them back on a flight from Lyon.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Rangie on 17 December 2021, 08:18:44
Really couldn't be bothered with all the nonsense to go abroad now, will stick with walking & caravanning in the UK for the foreseeable future ,  .....

likewise


Yes it's straightforward to understand sites are open or sites are closed, completely self contained and even greater on the plus side you don't have to travel with idiots.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Nick W on 17 December 2021, 09:57:36
Really couldn't be bothered with all the nonsense to go abroad now, will stick with walking & caravanning in the UK for the foreseeable future ,  .....

likewise


Yes it's straightforward to understand sites are open or sites are closed, completely self contained and even greater on the plus side you don't have to travel with idiots.


More important is that you don't have to check everyday to see if the rules to get back home have changed drastically. This is why I haven't been to France for nearly 3 years.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Rangie on 17 December 2021, 11:40:08
Really couldn't be bothered with all the nonsense to go abroad now, will stick with walking & caravanning in the UK for the foreseeable future ,  .....

likewise


Yes it's straightforward to understand sites are open or sites are closed, completely self contained and even greater on the plus side you don't have to travel with idiots.


More important is that you don't have to check everyday to see if the rules to get back home have changed drastically. This is why I haven't been to France for nearly 3 years.



2019 for us last trip abroad to Spain , great holiday been umpteen times with our friends to their villa, fortunately for them they sold it at the end of 2019 what a lucky decision.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2021, 11:43:39
That's the tests ordered from Boots, let's hope they arrive in time.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2021, 20:23:28
Coming special delivery by 1 o'clock tomorrow, that's pretty good.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: TD on 17 December 2021, 20:56:12
Coming special delivery by 1 o'clock tomorrow, that's pretty good.

Not by RM i hope.....they were having delivery problems....summat to do with a train  ???
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: LC0112G on 17 December 2021, 21:03:18
We ordered the C19Testing kits for both outbound and return "fit to fly" LFT tests. They arrive by courier the day after ordering and are £22 each (less with discount codes). I used one for entry into France last week, and assuming Boris doesn't change the rules will be using another to return to the UK on Wednesday.

Most of the larger airports have Day2 PCR testing available on the airport site somewhere. It needs to be pre-booked, but if you can just get off the plane, and get your Day2 test done before you've even got the car then you should get your "Ausweiss Bitte" clearance email sometime the following day.

The "fit to fly" LFT testing is a scam though. Zero security for those that want to abuse it.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 December 2021, 21:23:31
What's the difference between a £22 'Fit to fly' LFT and the LFT's I got from my local pharmacy for free?  :-\

Apart from the cost of course!  ::)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: LC0112G on 17 December 2021, 21:32:11
What's the difference between a £22 'Fit to fly' LFT and the LFT's I got from my local pharmacy for free?  :-\

Apart from the cost of course!  ::)

Nothing. Same box, same test kit, same everything. The difference is that there is an 8 digit code on a sticky label attached to the box. You enter this code on the C19Testing website, upload a photo of the test result & your passport, and a few hours later they email you a certificate that shuts up immigration. No-one checks that you've actually poked anything up your nose. :o

I've got around 20 'free' NHS test kits here, and 2 'paid for' C19Testing kits. They are identical apart from the sticker on the box. You're basically paying £22 for someone to review the photo, and then email you a certificate.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2021, 21:33:21
Romania requires a negative pcr test taken not more than 48 hours prior to entering the country.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: LC0112G on 17 December 2021, 21:48:41
Romania requires a negative pcr test taken not more than 48 hours prior to entering the country.

Yes, many countries are now demanding fit to fly PCR, which is slightly more secure. However, there are also some home testing PCR kits - you just have to drop the swab in a box for them to analyse. Not sure how they know whose nose the swab has been up though.

You can get "fit to fly" PCR tests at the major airports - with results in around 5 hours. Not much use if the Swiss change their rules at 9PM on a Friday night and you're booked on a 6AM flight to Geneva on the Saturday morning.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2021, 21:52:54
Romania requires a negative pcr test taken not more than 48 hours prior to entering the country.

Yes, many countries are now demanding fit to fly PCR, which is slightly more secure. However, there are also some home testing PCR kits - you just have to drop the swab in a box for them to analyse. Not sure how they know whose nose the swab has been up though.

You can get "fit to fly" PCR tests at the major airports - with results in around 5 hours. Not much use if the Swiss change their rules at 9PM on a Friday night and you're booked on a 6AM flight to Geneva on the Saturday morning.
Not much use if you're flying from Doncaster either  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: LC0112G on 17 December 2021, 22:08:57
Romania requires a negative pcr test taken not more than 48 hours prior to entering the country.

Yes, many countries are now demanding fit to fly PCR, which is slightly more secure. However, there are also some home testing PCR kits - you just have to drop the swab in a box for them to analyse. Not sure how they know whose nose the swab has been up though.

You can get "fit to fly" PCR tests at the major airports - with results in around 5 hours. Not much use if the Swiss change their rules at 9PM on a Friday night and you're booked on a 6AM flight to Geneva on the Saturday morning.
Not much use if you're flying from Doncaster either  ;D

It was, is and always will be RAF Finningly to me :)

I'm sure you've seen it, but...
https://www.medicspot.co.uk/covid-test/doncaster-sheffield-airport

Not much use for fit to fly PCR, because AIUI PCR testing needs lab analysis, so only airports with nearby labs (like Heathrow) can offer same day PCR tests.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Viral_Jim on 17 December 2021, 22:18:04
Ste, we booked our day 2 tests through Randox. They have local pickup and Drop boxes for PCR tests at £34.99 a pop. Not sure if you've already bitten the bullet buy they were the cheapest ones I could find and had availability only a few days out.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 December 2021, 22:54:51
Ste, we booked our day 2 tests through Randox. They have local pickup and Drop boxes for PCR tests at £34.99 a pop. Not sure if you've already bitten the bullet buy they were the cheapest ones I could find and had availability only a few days out.

Of Owen Paterson fame?  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2021, 23:51:45
Ste, we booked our day 2 tests through Randox. They have local pickup and Drop boxes for PCR tests at £34.99 a pop. Not sure if you've already bitten the bullet buy they were the cheapest ones I could find and had availability only a few days out.
Got to be done within 48 hours of flying and, as they are flying on 27th, and the tests had to be done on either Christmas Day or Boxing Day, our choice was limited, Jimmy.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Viral_Jim on 18 December 2021, 05:21:30

Of Owen Paterson fame?  ;D

Could be... Tbh I couldn't give a flying fig about the chosen company or the quality of service, all I was after was the confirmation number that means I can fill in the passenger locator form and get back to the UK.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 December 2021, 10:34:48

Of Owen Paterson fame?  ;D

Could be... Tbh I couldn't give a flying fig about the chosen company or the quality of service, all I was after was the confirmation number that means I can fill in the passenger locator form and get back to the UK.
I used Express Test for mine if only because I could drive through on my way past.

If I have to have a pre departure test next time I go, then I'll book their walk in option in the terminal on my way to check in having done a freebie LFT on the way out of the house. That way I will be confident that I will pass the walk in test and a cup of coffee on the way to check in should allow enough time for the result and submit the outbound locator form. If it is only an overnight trip, then the return locator form can be done whilst I enjoy a cold snack in the departure lounge.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 December 2021, 11:07:24

Of Owen Paterson fame?  ;D

Could be... Tbh I couldn't give a flying fig about the chosen company or the quality of service, all I was after was the confirmation number that means I can fill in the passenger locator form and get back to the UK.

Not suggesting you should have done.  :)

It might have been lost in the hysteria, but maybe one of the reasons that Owen Paterson recommended Ranox was because they are competent and do a good job.  :y

As well as being on their payroll!  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 December 2021, 11:30:53
It has been suggested that the rate of spread makes testing pointless as apparently cases double in the time it takes to process the results.

That was on Sky News so can clearly be considered accurate and factual  ::)

If the projected growth rate is to be believed, ie doubling every 48 hours... Then the current 11.2 million cases would suggest that we will all have it in time for Christmas.

And as you can apparently catch it twice, in spite of being double vaccinated and boosted, at what point does learning to live with it become just that? Christmas Eve? Next Christmas? Never?  :-X

If ever there was a justification for removing all restrictions, this surely must be it...
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 December 2021, 11:38:51
It has been suggested that the rate of spread makes testing pointless as apparently cases double in the time it takes to process the results.

That was on Sky News so can clearly be considered accurate and factual  ::)

If the projected growth rate is to be believed, ie doubling every 48 hours... Then the current 11.2 million cases would suggest that we will all have it in time for Christmas.

And as you can apparently catch it twice, in spite of being double vaccinated and boosted, at what point does learning to live with it become just that? Christmas Eve? Next Christmas? Never?  :-X

If ever there was a justification for removing all restrictions, this surely must be it...

Dream on.  The only talk I'm seeing this morning is of a two week lockdown after Christmas...  ::)

If this turns out to be true, then they will never accept that we have to live with this thing!  >:(
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 18 December 2021, 11:44:11
I like lockdown, more please  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 December 2021, 11:59:36
I like lockdown, more please  ;D
Even if it means your lad can't come home until an undefined date in the future?
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Rangie on 18 December 2021, 12:08:33
Lockdown is great bring it on! Sooner the better.  🎄🎄🎄
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 December 2021, 12:12:05
I like lockdown, more please  ;D
Even if it means your lad can't come home until an undefined date in the future?

Well that's not going to happen as we didn't and won't close our borders.  ::)

Unlike Australia and New Zealand who still have thousands of their citizens stranded overseas, which is utter madness!  :o

Anyway even in the worst case scenario all the lad has to do is float across the channel in a dinghy and claim asylum on the basis that he has to live with Uncle STEMO!  ;D

Although they must be running out of 4 star hotels by now?  :-\
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 18 December 2021, 12:33:06
I like lockdown, more please  ;D
Even if it means your lad can't come home until an undefined date in the future?
Especially if it means that  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: dave the builder on 18 December 2021, 12:49:16
Not much point to another 2 week lockdown  ::)
The stupid people of the UK ( a good 50% by my reckoning  :-X) will just see it as an extended Christmas break ,more parties and visiting relatives, extra days of shopping at the sales ,but they won't bother wearing masks or any other Covid countermeasures  >:(

Happy Christmas  for next week
commiserations in advance for 2022 

Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 December 2021, 13:13:58
I like lockdown, more please  ;D
Even if it means your lad can't come home until an undefined date in the future?

Well that's not going to happen as we didn't and won't close our borders.  ::)

Unlike Australia and New Zealand who still have thousands of their citizens stranded overseas, which is utter madness!  :o

Anyway even in the worst case scenario all the lad has to do is float across the channel in a dinghy and claim asylum on the basis that he has to live with Uncle STEMO!  ;D

Although they must be running out of 4 star hotels by now?  :-\
We might not, but other countries could...
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 December 2021, 13:14:38
I like lockdown, more please  ;D
Even if it means your lad can't come home until an undefined date in the future?
Especially if it means that  ;D
Fair enough  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 December 2021, 15:00:42
Well don't try going to the Netherlands as they're going into hard lockdown tomorrow until 14th January.  :o  ::)

I assume that's 14th January 2022, but I could be wrong!  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 18 December 2021, 15:48:10
Coming special delivery by 1 o'clock tomorrow, that's pretty good.

Not by RM i hope.....they were having delivery problems....summat to do with a train  ???
Arrived this aft, Dave.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: TD on 18 December 2021, 16:38:09
Coming special delivery by 1 o'clock tomorrow, that's pretty good.

Not by RM i hope.....they were having delivery problems....summat to do with a train  ???
Arrived this aft, Dave.

Good  :y

Ive a new bank card coming, which the bank has promised it will arrive before 9am tuesday! Being sent 'special delivery 9am' apparently!
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 18 December 2021, 16:46:30
Coming special delivery by 1 o'clock tomorrow, that's pretty good.

Not by RM i hope.....they were having delivery problems....summat to do with a train  ???
Arrived this aft, Dave.

Good  :y

Ive a new bank card coming, which the bank has promised it will arrive before 9am tuesday! Being sent 'special delivery 9am' apparently!
It will come. Download the Royal Mail app, it will let you track it if they've given you a number.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: TD on 18 December 2021, 16:52:07
Coming special delivery by 1 o'clock tomorrow, that's pretty good.

Not by RM i hope.....they were having delivery problems....summat to do with a train  ???
Arrived this aft, Dave.

Good  :y

Ive a new bank card coming, which the bank has promised it will arrive before 9am tuesday! Being sent 'special delivery 9am' apparently!
It will come. Download the Royal Mail app, it will let you track it if they've given you a number.

Hope it will ,but they havent given me a number because i guess it isnt being posted until Monday  :-\
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 18 December 2021, 17:10:46
Coming special delivery by 1 o'clock tomorrow, that's pretty good.

Not by RM i hope.....they were having delivery problems....summat to do with a train  ???
Arrived this aft, Dave.

Good  :y

Ive a new bank card coming, which the bank has promised it will arrive before 9am tuesday! Being sent 'special delivery 9am' apparently!
It will come. Download the Royal Mail app, it will let you track it if they've given you a number.

Hope it will ,but they havent given me a number because i guess it isnt being posted until Monday  :-\
Doubt they'll give you it anyway, because......well......they're a bank. :(
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 December 2021, 17:41:38
Coming special delivery by 1 o'clock tomorrow, that's pretty good.

Not by RM i hope.....they were having delivery problems....summat to do with a train  ???
Arrived this aft, Dave.

Good  :y

Ive a new bank card coming, which the bank has promised it will arrive before 9am tuesday! Being sent 'special delivery 9am' apparently!
It will come. Download the Royal Mail app, it will let you track it if they've given you a number.
Only after they have tried to deliver it once...
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 18 December 2021, 18:10:09
Coming special delivery by 1 o'clock tomorrow, that's pretty good.

Not by RM i hope.....they were having delivery problems....summat to do with a train  ???
Arrived this aft, Dave.

Good  :y

Ive a new bank card coming, which the bank has promised it will arrive before 9am tuesday! Being sent 'special delivery 9am' apparently!
It will come. Download the Royal Mail app, it will let you track it if they've given you a number.
Only after they have tried to deliver it once...
No, it works fine, for me anyway.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 December 2021, 18:53:26
Special Delivery tracking might be a bit better then The standard tracking simply says tracking number provided or some such until they have attempted it...

Still, credit where it's due. At least they attempt to deliver stuff, which is more than some manage.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 18 December 2021, 18:58:44
24 hour tracked, told us where it was right up until it was out for delivery, then delivered within the times it quoted. No problems.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 December 2021, 19:04:18
 :y
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2021, 11:10:31
Just to add a bit of flavour to the mix, the missus has just got a positive test result back. Have to work out where that leaves us. 
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Rangie on 19 December 2021, 11:12:11
Just to add a bit of flavour to the mix, the missus has just got a positive test result back. Have to work out where that leaves us.



Up the creek.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2021, 11:15:03
Just to add a bit of flavour to the mix, the missus has just got a positive test result back. Have to work out where that leaves us.



Up the creek.
Can I rely on a paddle, or am I without them too?  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: dave the builder on 19 December 2021, 11:15:29
BREAKING NEWS
"French confirm they will relax restrictions on UK visitors in the event of invasion from Germany "
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Nick W on 19 December 2021, 11:24:01
Just to add a bit of flavour to the mix, the missus has just got a positive test result back. Have to work out where that leaves us.



Up the creek.
Can I rely on a paddle, or am I without them too?  ;D


Can't you use empty Covid test boxes? You probably have enough ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2021, 11:49:51
Just to add a bit of flavour to the mix, the missus has just got a positive test result back. Have to work out where that leaves us.



Up the creek.
Can I rely on a paddle, or am I without them too?  ;D


Can't you use empty Covid test boxes? You probably have enough ;D
You're right. Being in school she has had to take LFDs every day. Thing is, she has felt rough since Thursday but, as the LFDs have been negative, she has not been worried. She went for a test last night just to be sure and it came back positive.
She's just done another LFD for research purposes and, of course, it is negative. Useless effing things....that the country is relying on to keep the virus at bay.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2021, 12:10:26
She's taken herself upstairs to isolate and just had news that her dad has lung cancer and multiple brain lesions. We were quite happy when we got up this morning 🙄
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: dave the builder on 19 December 2021, 12:16:30
She's taken herself upstairs to isolate and just had news that her dad has lung cancer and multiple brain lesions. We were quite happy when we got up this morning 🙄
Sorry Uncle Stemo
Not the sort of news you want to hear just before Christmas
I wish your good lady a speedy recovery
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2021, 12:57:39
She's taken herself upstairs to isolate and just had news that her dad has lung cancer and multiple brain lesions. We were quite happy when we got up this morning 🙄
Sorry Uncle Stemo
Not the sort of news you want to hear just before Christmas
I wish your good lady a speedy recovery
Thanks, Dave. She's not bad, bit of a sore throat. It's the slave you should feel sorry for, I'll have the fickin stair carpet worn out........and at my age too  :(

When I go out with doggie/shopping, I might just be a bit longer than usual  :)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 December 2021, 13:19:47
It always seems to be the time of year for that sort of news. A few days isolating won't solve anything, but will be a good opportunity to shut off from the world and take stock...
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 December 2021, 14:17:51
Sorry to see this bad news Uncle STEMO.  :(
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: dave the builder on 19 December 2021, 14:21:17
She's taken herself upstairs to isolate and just had news that her dad has lung cancer and multiple brain lesions. We were quite happy when we got up this morning 🙄
Sorry Uncle Stemo
Not the sort of news you want to hear just before Christmas
I wish your good lady a speedy recovery
Thanks, Dave. She's not bad, bit of a sore throat. It's the slave you should feel sorry for, I'll have the fickin stair carpet worn out........and at my age too  :(

When I go out with dogging / shoppie, I might just be a bit longer than usual  :)

What's "shoppie " ?
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 December 2021, 14:38:22
Dogging with membership points ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2021, 14:42:34
She's taken herself upstairs to isolate and just had news that her dad has lung cancer and multiple brain lesions. We were quite happy when we got up this morning 🙄
Sorry Uncle Stemo
Not the sort of news you want to hear just before Christmas
I wish your good lady a speedy recovery
Thanks, Dave. She's not bad, bit of a sore throat. It's the slave you should feel sorry for, I'll have the fickin stair carpet worn out........and at my age too  :(

When I go out with dogging / shoppie, I might just be a bit longer than usual  :)

What's "shoppie " ?
I don't know, I put shopping, so shoppie must be something you made up?  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 December 2021, 19:27:22
Germany has introduced restrictions for British travellers due to our apparent high Covid cases, and if you want to visit the Fatherland you have to show a negative test and quarantine for 14 days!  :)

Today's stats show that the UK recorded 82,886 new cases in the last 24 hours and Germany only 14,217, so they might have a point no?  ???

Well Germany carries out about a fifth of the tests that the UK does, so a fifth of 82,886 is 16,577 which would mean that Britain's case rates are similar to Germany's if we did the same amount of testing.  :y

France also has introduced restrictions for travellers from the UK and yesterdays Covid stats were: UK 93,045  France: 58,128, so they also have a point no?

Well France does about half the testing that is done by the UK, so lets double the French stat from yesterday as a rough adjustment and they had 116,256 new cases as opposed to the UK's 93,045.  :)

Now as the old OOF saying goes. I'm just the stupid boy from the local comp with a CSE Grade 2 in Maths, (So feel free to shoot me down in flames!) and I know that there are lies, damn lies and statistics, but strange that Britain's corrupt main stream media have never looked at this angle?  ???

So maybe we're not quite 'Plague Island' after all, unless I have this totally wrong?  ???  :-\  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 December 2021, 19:51:08
When Dave emerges from under his mattress for his evening pee and Horlicks, I'm sure he will tell you that you've got it all upside down...  ::)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 December 2021, 20:23:06
When Dave emerges from under his mattress for his evening pee and Horlicks, I'm sure he will tell you that you've got it all upside down...  ::)

Probably, after all I'm just.....  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: dave the builder on 19 December 2021, 20:56:17


So maybe we're not quite 'Plague Island' after all, unless I have this totally wrong?  ???  :-\  ;D
When Dave emerges from under his mattress for his evening pee and Horlicks, I'm sure he will tell you that you've got it all upside down...  ::)

Not much plague  :y sh!t loads of Covid , so the rest of your post is B***ocks  ;D

AND ....

 I don't go under my mattress ,it's a waterbed ,it contains over 1000 litres of water (and disinfectant)   ::)

Hospitals are filling up again with that "mild" variant of Covid that made so much press "hysteria"

I guess it's not that "mild" after all then  ::)

Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 December 2021, 21:22:04
Mostly unvaccinated or in for non TCV reasons...  ::)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2021, 21:31:16
It's not just the virus that is bringing this country, Europe and, to some extent, the rest of the world, to a grinding halt, it is the fear that goes along with it.
Some talking head on telly said today that there could be as many as 50,000 NHS staff isolating by Christmas. So lots more sick people and a lot less staff to look after them. That is just one of many tales of woe that are issued on a daily basis. These predictions cannot be ignored by government, that is obvious, so how can government make the right decision?
We can all argue from our our various standpoints but, as I see it, there can only be one way.
Human life must always be the priority. So...if the government make the wrong decision and it costs lives, that is much worse than making the wrong decision and wrecking the economy. Which is why (now, not necessarily in the beginning) the government will always appear over cautious. By government I mean governments, of course, and this is probably why the Likes of France and Germany really don't care about what we think. They must be seen to be protecting their own.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 December 2021, 22:08:52
So...if the government make the wrong decision and it costs lives, that is much worse than making the wrong decision and wrecking the economy. Which is why (now, not necessarily in the beginning) the government will always appear over cautious. By government I mean governments, of course, and this is probably why the Likes of France and Germany really don't care about what we think. They must be seen to be protecting their own.

Oh yes and I don't blame France and Germany or any others for that matter as it's a great look for their governments.  Look, we're protecting you from those nasty covid ridden Brits!   :)

If I'm right though and our covid infection rates are similar when adjusted for testing rates, why don't our government call them out?  ???  ::)

I don't expect the corrupt media to call them out because they are still looking out through their salty Brexit tears and want us to think everything is better on the continent.  It's not. The Netherlands are now in hard lockdown.  Hopefully we won't follow suit.  :-\
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Rangie on 19 December 2021, 22:22:44
I will be very  surprised if we are not locked down by the 27th of December.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2021, 22:22:52
So...if the government make the wrong decision and it costs lives, that is much worse than making the wrong decision and wrecking the economy. Which is why (now, not necessarily in the beginning) the government will always appear over cautious. By government I mean governments, of course, and this is probably why the Likes of France and Germany really don't care about what we think. They must be seen to be protecting their own.

Oh yes and I don't blame France and Germany or any others for that matter as it's a great look for their governments.  Look, we're protecting you from those nasty covid ridden Brits!   :)

If I'm right though and our covid infection rates are similar when adjusted for testing rates, why don't our government call them out?  ???  ::)

I don't expect the corrupt media to call them out because they are still looking out through their salty Brexit tears and want us to think everything is better on the continent.  It's not. The Netherlands are now in hard lockdown.  Hopefully we won't follow suit.  :-\
Why don't our government call them out on what? They are sovereign states, they can do as they like. This is especially true as we're no longer a member of their club.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 December 2021, 23:16:21
So...if the government make the wrong decision and it costs lives, that is much worse than making the wrong decision and wrecking the economy. Which is why (now, not necessarily in the beginning) the government will always appear over cautious. By government I mean governments, of course, and this is probably why the Likes of France and Germany really don't care about what we think. They must be seen to be protecting their own.

Oh yes and I don't blame France and Germany or any others for that matter as it's a great look for their governments.  Look, we're protecting you from those nasty covid ridden Brits!   :)

If I'm right though and our covid infection rates are similar when adjusted for testing rates, why don't our government call them out?  ???  ::)

I don't expect the corrupt media to call them out because they are still looking out through their salty Brexit tears and want us to think everything is better on the continent.  It's not. The Netherlands are now in hard lockdown.  Hopefully we won't follow suit.  :-\
Why don't our government call them out on what? They are sovereign states, they can do as they like. This is especially true as we're no longer a member of their club.

I didn't say they couldn't do as they like, but if they are going to put restrictions on us (as is their right) claiming we're some sort of outlyer, then you'd think our government might point out that their infection rates are similar to ours when adjusted for testing rates.  :-\

It's slanderous!  That's what it is!  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 20 December 2021, 11:43:04
Just to add a bit of flavour to the mix, the missus has just got a positive test result back. Have to work out where that leaves us.



Up the creek.
Can I rely on a paddle, or am I without them too?  ;D


Can't you use empty Covid test boxes? You probably have enough ;D
You're right. Being in school she has had to take LFDs every day. Thing is, she has felt rough since Thursday but, as the LFDs have been negative, she has not been worried. She went for a test last night just to be sure and it came back positive.
She's just done another LFD for research purposes and, of course, it is negative. Useless effing things....that the country is relying on to keep the virus at bay.
Surprise, surprise, nearly three days after her positive PCR, the LFD showed a positive result this morning. If she'd been relying on that, she could have infected a small town before going for a proper test.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Viral_Jim on 20 December 2021, 12:06:42
It's not just the virus that is bringing this country, Europe and, to some extent, the rest of the world, to a grinding halt, it is the fear that goes along with it.

This is very true. I've just got back from Florida and they seem to have a much more balanced approach than we do here. There is lots of hand sanitiser everywhere and everyone wears a mask indoors or gets asked to leave, regardless of what coloured lanyard they have on or how f*cking special they think they are. We were also able to get a rapid PCR test free of charge to be cleared to fly home, had we had US medical insurance, our insurer would have had to pay but as we don't the state covered it. Same tests here, £35 a pop, and they aren't even the rapid ones ::).

Everyone we spoke to out there seems to have accepted C-19 as a fact of life, they get tested, vaccinated and put on masks, but then they just get on with life.

Then again, as a state with such a massive tourism industry, they probably don't have much choice.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 20 December 2021, 12:54:16
Much the same experience as the Canaries from the sound of it, although I timed it well only needing one test for the whole trip...

£37 for a drive through test within two days of the return seemed pretty reasonable all things considered.  :y
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 December 2021, 13:09:15
This from Twitter (https://twitter.com/normAL219/status/1472500112177999873) made me chuckle.   :y

*Omicron News*

Macron denies Germany are to be included in the ban on countries entering France.

“Germans have , and always will have the freedom to enter France at a time of their choosing “ he said.

 ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 20 December 2021, 14:44:37
This from Twitter (https://twitter.com/normAL219/status/1472500112177999873) made me chuckle.   :y

*Omicron News*

Macron denies Germany are to be included in the ban on countries entering France.

“Germans have , and always will have the freedom to enter France at a time of their choosing “ he said.

 ;D
Poor old Charles de Gaulle will be turning in his grave  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Rangie on 20 December 2021, 15:35:51
Just to add a bit of flavour to the mix, the missus has just got a positive test result back. Have to work out where that leaves us.



Up the creek.
Can I rely on a paddle, or am I without them too?  ;D


Can't you use empty Covid test boxes? You probably have enough ;D
You're right. Being in school she has had to take LFDs every day. Thing is, she has felt rough since Thursday but, as the LFDs have been negative, she has not been worried. She went for a test last night just to be sure and it came back positive.
She's just done another LFD for research purposes and, of course, it is negative. Useless effing things....that the country is relying on to keep the virus at bay.
Surprise, surprise, nearly three days after her positive PCR, the LFD showed a positive result this morning. If she'd been relying on that, she could have infected a small town before going for a proper test.


Our son has just tested positive he's in Leeds (Police) so that's one off our Christmas lunch but I am led to believe that virtually all leave in the force has been cancelled anyway.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 20 December 2021, 16:11:29
Just to add a bit of flavour to the mix, the missus has just got a positive test result back. Have to work out where that leaves us.



Up the creek.
Can I rely on a paddle, or am I without them too?  ;D


Can't you use empty Covid test boxes? You probably have enough ;D
You're right. Being in school she has had to take LFDs every day. Thing is, she has felt rough since Thursday but, as the LFDs have been negative, she has not been worried. She went for a test last night just to be sure and it came back positive.
She's just done another LFD for research purposes and, of course, it is negative. Useless effing things....that the country is relying on to keep the virus at bay.
Surprise, surprise, nearly three days after her positive PCR, the LFD showed a positive result this morning. If she'd been relying on that, she could have infected a small town before going for a proper test.


Our son has just tested positive he's in Leeds (Police) so that's one off our Christmas lunch but I am led to believe that virtually all leave in the force has been cancelled anyway.
That's tough on him, Mick, is he bad with it? I'm guessing not if he's fit and healthy.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Rangie on 20 December 2021, 16:24:08
Hi Steve, he felt worse on Saturday but had the test today which confirmed the virus but as you say he is extremely fit  thankfully.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 20 December 2021, 16:27:53
Hi Steve, he felt worse on Saturday but had the test today which confirmed the virus but as you say he is extremely fit thankfully.

Very nice! I love extremely fit police officers! :-* :-* :-*

I hope he feels better soon Rangie :D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Rangie on 20 December 2021, 16:31:39
Hi Steve, he felt worse on Saturday but had the test today which confirmed the virus but as you say he is extremely fit thankfully.

Very nice! I love extremely fit police officers! :-* :-* :-*

I hope he feels better soon Rangie :D


Thanks Lizzie I'm sure you would like him , he's a dead ringer for the footballer Ronaldo no shortage of females for him..👍
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 20 December 2021, 16:57:42
Hi Steve, he felt worse on Saturday but had the test today which confirmed the virus but as you say he is extremely fit thankfully.

Very nice! I love extremely fit police officers! :-* :-* :-*

I hope he feels better soon Rangie :D


Thanks Lizzie I'm sure you would like him , he's a dead ringer for the footballer Ronaldo no shortage of females for him..👍

 8) 8) :-* :-* :y
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 20 December 2021, 17:11:41
Hi Steve, he felt worse on Saturday but had the test today which confirmed the virus but as you say he is extremely fit thankfully.

Very nice! I love extremely fit police officers! :-* :-* :-*

I hope he feels better soon Rangie :D


Thanks Lizzie I'm sure you would like him , he's a dead ringer for the footballer Ronaldo no shortage of females for him..👍
An ace at issuing fixed penalties them  :D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 20 December 2021, 17:17:15
This from Twitter (https://twitter.com/normAL219/status/1472500112177999873) made me chuckle.   :y

*Omicron News*

Macron denies Germany are to be included in the ban on countries entering France.

“Germans have , and always will have the freedom to enter France at a time of their choosing “ he said.

 ;D
Oh the irony.  ;D
Apart from the irony though, of course they can come and go as they please because they arent actually countries , any more than California or Texas are countires.  ::)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Varche on 20 December 2021, 19:06:47
This from Twitter (https://twitter.com/normAL219/status/1472500112177999873) made me chuckle.   :y

*Omicron News*

Macron denies Germany are to be included in the ban on countries entering France.

“Germans have , and always will have the freedom to enter France at a time of their choosing “ he said.

OhMacron news?

It would be hard to ban as they are part of Schengen free movement area. In Spain during our lockdown we had the ridiculous situation of Frenchies coming and partying openly. We couldn’t even leave our “ county” but loads of North Europeans were driving around freely in campervans and foreign reg cars.

 ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: ronnyd on 20 December 2021, 19:55:53
This from Twitter (https://twitter.com/normAL219/status/1472500112177999873) made me chuckle.   :y

*Omicron News*

Macron denies Germany are to be included in the ban on countries entering France.

“Germans have , and always will have the freedom to enter France at a time of their choosing “ he said.

 ;D

Didn't realise that Vichy was still in charge just across the English Channel.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Varche on 20 December 2021, 21:35:11
 :y :y
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 December 2021, 02:17:39
This from Twitter (https://twitter.com/normAL219/status/1472500112177999873) made me chuckle.   :y

*Omicron News*

Macron denies Germany are to be included in the ban on countries entering France.

“Germans have , and always will have the freedom to enter France at a time of their choosing “ he said.

 ;D

Didn't realise that Vichy was still in charge just across the English Channel.
                   Oh no not another European tour for Jerry😂
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Rangie on 21 December 2021, 18:35:06
I will be very  surprised if we are not locked down by the 27th of December.



After seeing the latest I think I may be spot on.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: LC0112G on 21 December 2021, 21:17:49
We're fit to fly - whoooo-hoooo. Back to a plague ridden UK from a pristine France where everyone is abiding by the rules. Sort of.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Varche on 21 December 2021, 21:51:11
Same here in Spain. We now have to produce a covid passport for next three weeks to enter a cafe, restaurant or bar. We are away on holiday. Some places ask for it soon as you go in and others just conveniently forget even if the police are in there having a coffee and brandy. Wouldn’t be Spain without inconsistencies!

Those without vaccine passport that have booked xmas meals have to get officially tested. Expensive meal!
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 December 2021, 21:52:26
We're fit to fly - whoooo-hoooo. Back to a plague ridden UK from a pristine France where everyone is abiding by the rules. Sort of.

Ahem...  ::)

Tuesday 21st December Covid New Infections

UK 90,629
France 72,832

Tests per one million population

UK 5,708,951
France 2,718,469

Total Tests

UK 390,544,657
France 178,020,146

 :P
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 December 2021, 22:02:40
Same here in Spain. We now have to produce a covid passport for next three weeks to enter a cafe, restaurant or bar. We are away on holiday. Some places ask for it soon as you go in and others just conveniently forget even if the police are in there having a coffee and brandy. Wouldn’t be Spain without inconsistencies!

Those without vaccine passport that have booked xmas meals have to get officially tested. Expensive meal!

Yes the Covid Passport/Covid Pass/Vaccine Passport whatever you want to call it, that governments the world over are imposing on their people, despite there being no evidence whatsoever that it they help limit the spread of Covid-19.  :-X

Still I guess it reassures the feeble minded that their governments are doing something to protect them!  :)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 December 2021, 22:06:16
Same here in Spain. We now have to produce a covid passport for next three weeks to enter a cafe, restaurant or bar. We are away on holiday. Some places ask for it soon as you go in and others just conveniently forget even if the police are in there having a coffee and brandy. Wouldn’t be Spain without inconsistencies!

Those without vaccine passport that have booked xmas meals have to get officially tested. Expensive meal!
Perhaps, but a very different approach to banishing them from society.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 December 2021, 22:08:57
LFT for this shift was negative...
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: LC0112G on 21 December 2021, 22:19:44
We have shown our QR codes three times so far in 12 days - once in a motorway service station near Dijon, once on check-in to our apartment, and once in the pub whilst watching last weekends F1 race.

There have been precicely zero other checks in any of the bars or resturaunts we've visited, or on any ski lifts. Mask wearing is random at best, non existent at worst. There may be rules in place, but compliance is basically bordering on nil.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: LC0112G on 21 December 2021, 22:21:30
We're fit to fly - whoooo-hoooo. Back to a plague ridden UK from a pristine France where everyone is abiding by the rules. Sort of.

Ahem...  ::)

Tuesday 21st December Covid New Infections

UK 90,629
France 72,832

Tests per one million population

UK 5,708,951
France 2,718,469

Total Tests

UK 390,544,657
France 178,020,146

 :P

I suspect your sarcasm detector has failed. ;)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 December 2021, 22:27:52
Guess you're not going back for Christmas then...  :-\
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: LC0112G on 21 December 2021, 22:36:04
Guess you're not going back for Christmas then...  :-\

Nope - family can't get out here even if I were to stay and their flights are all cancelled too. So I'd be skiing (aka drinking/eating) as billy no mates.

Testing positive on my Day2 PCR test would actually make it a lot easier to get my money back too - but sods law says I won't.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 December 2021, 22:54:41
We're fit to fly - whoooo-hoooo. Back to a plague ridden UK from a pristine France where everyone is abiding by the rules. Sort of.

Ahem...  ::)

Tuesday 21st December Covid New Infections

UK 90,629
France 72,832

Tests per one million population

UK 5,708,951
France 2,718,469

Total Tests

UK 390,544,657
France 178,020,146

 :P

I suspect your sarcasm detector has failed. ;)

You suspect correctly.  ;D

Seems like a lot of people seem to believe that sort of stuff though, so you can't be too careful!  :)

Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 December 2021, 23:06:24
Guess you're not going back for Christmas then...  :-\

Nope - family can't get out here even if I were to stay and their flights are all cancelled too. So I'd be skiing (aka drinking/eating) as billy no mates.

Testing positive on my Day2 PCR test would actually make it a lot easier to get my money back too - but sods law says I won't.
Slowly sip a bottle of water as you queue for Immigration... an hour without a mask in a crowded space should do it  :-\
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: LC0112G on 21 December 2021, 23:13:05
Guess you're not going back for Christmas then...  :-\

Nope - family can't get out here even if I were to stay and their flights are all cancelled too. So I'd be skiing (aka drinking/eating) as billy no mates.

Testing positive on my Day2 PCR test would actually make it a lot easier to get my money back too - but sods law says I won't.
Slowly sip a bottle of water as you queue for Immigration... an hour without a mask in a crowded space should do it  :-\

Chunnel - so you don't even get out of the car. Have uploaded all the guff to the Eurotunnel site, and printed out hard copies just in-case, so in theory it should just be wave a passport at some dis-interested French rozzer, and then the Uk lot. Bet it won't be that simple though.

Day2 PCR is at Bluewater tomorrow evening. Bluewater three days before Xmas. What could possibly go wrong ::)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 December 2021, 03:24:45
You really planned this all through ::)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 December 2021, 17:32:15
Some good news today.  :)

Almost 93% of people tested yesterday returned a negative result or in other words didn't have Covid!  :y

You won't hear that on the BBC!  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 December 2021, 18:02:16
Some good news today.  :)

Almost 93% of people tested yesterday returned a negative result or in other words didn't have Covid!  :y

You won't hear that on the BBC!  ;D

...............and 91% of people in hospital with Covid are unvaccinated! ::) ::)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Varche on 22 December 2021, 18:04:47
If you are coming to Spain for xmas, we are all back to masks outside even if you can socially distance.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 December 2021, 18:06:14
...............172 deaths the other day;  I wonder how many of those were unvacinated? ::) ::)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 December 2021, 18:22:00
Some good news today.  :)

Almost 93% of people tested yesterday returned a negative result or in other words didn't have Covid!  :y

You won't hear that on the BBC!  ;D

...............and 91% of people in hospital with Covid are unvaccinated! ::) ::)

Did you see that on Lorraine Kelly Lizzie?  :)

https://fullfact.org/health/dr-hilary-lorraine-kelly-90-percent/
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Rangie on 22 December 2021, 18:22:30
It's here it's real that's about it.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 December 2021, 18:23:15
...............172 deaths the other day;  I wonder how many of those were unvacinated? ::) ::)
Or hit by a bus ::)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 December 2021, 18:24:00
If you are coming to Spain for xmas, we are all back to masks outside even if you can socially distance.

That's almost as absurd as the new rule coming in Wales, where you can get a £60 fine for going to work, but it's OK to go out on the piss!  ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 December 2021, 18:25:13
If you are coming to Spain for xmas, we are all back to masks outside even if you can socially distance.

That's almost as absurd as the new rule coming in Wales, where you can get a £60 fine for going to work, but it's OK to go out on the piss!  ;D
The park will be busy then...
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 December 2021, 18:49:12
Some good news today.  :)

Almost 93% of people tested yesterday returned a negative result or in other words didn't have Covid!  :y

You won't hear that on the BBC!  ;D

...............and 91% of people in hospital with Covid are unvaccinated! ::) ::)

Did you see that on Lorraine Kelly Lizzie?  :)

https://fullfact.org/health/dr-hilary-lorraine-kelly-90-percent/

No, I heard it this afternoon on BBC News Sir Tigger.

But like all these facts, who knows what is true, made up, or a lie.  Even Boris cannot apparently make up his mind because of a shortage of “facts” ;D ;D
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 December 2021, 20:18:44

.... like all these facts, who knows what is true, made up, or a lie.  Even Boris cannot apparently make up his mind because of a shortage of “facts” ;D ;D

Well in other good Covid news today Lizzie, scientists here in the UK are saying (reluctantly I'd imagine) that the South African's have been right for weeks about Omicon producing a mild illness.  :y

So when you put that together with other things that we know about Covid, like 99% of people survive it, you often have to have a test to know if you even have it and only 7% of the people tested yesterday were positive, it hardly seems right to impose more restrictions on peoples lives and lively hoods.  Does it?  ???

Even if Britain's corrupt media are demanding it!  ::)   :-X

Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 December 2021, 20:48:19

.... like all these facts, who knows what is true, made up, or a lie.  Even Boris cannot apparently make up his mind because of a shortage of “facts” ;D ;D

Well in other good Covid news today Lizzie, scientists here in the UK are saying (reluctantly I'd imagine) that the South African's have been right for weeks about Omicon producing a mild illness.  :y

So when you put that together with other things that we know about Covid, like 99% of people survive it, you often have to have a test to know if you even have it and only 7% of the people tested yesterday were positive, it hardly seems right to impose more restrictions on peoples ;) lives and lively hoods.  Does it?  ???

Even if Britain's corrupt media are demanding it!  ::)   :-X

I agree with that entirely Sir Tigger :y

The more I have heard today suggests that with the majority now vaccinated and this Covid strain mild, there should be no more restrictions.  Business, which gives people their livelihood’s and puts food on the table, MUST have no further restrictions placed on them.  Everyone being vaccinated, ok. Face masks, ok.  Good hygiene, ok.  Sensible precautions, ok.  But no more, and if those who decide still to not be vaccinated, ok, but let them not affect business and not dictate what controls the rest of us suffer.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 December 2021, 21:13:30

.... like all these facts, who knows what is true, made up, or a lie.  Even Boris cannot apparently make up his mind because of a shortage of “facts” ;D ;D

Well in other good Covid news today Lizzie, scientists here in the UK are saying (reluctantly I'd imagine) that the South African's have been right for weeks about Omicon producing a mild illness.  :y

So when you put that together with other things that we know about Covid, like 99% of people survive it, you often have to have a test to know if you even have it and only 7% of the people tested yesterday were positive, it hardly seems right to impose more restrictions on peoples ;) lives and lively hoods.  Does it?  ???

Even if Britain's corrupt media are demanding it!  ::)   :-X

I agree with that entirely Sir Tigger :y

The more I have heard today suggests that with the majority now vaccinated and this Covid strain mild, there should be no more restrictions.  Business, which gives people their livelihood’s and puts food on the table, MUST have no further restrictions placed on them.  Everyone being vaccinated, ok. Face masks, ok.  Good hygiene, ok.  Sensible precautions, ok.  But no more, and if those who decide still to not be vaccinated, ok, but let them not affect business and not dictate what controls the rest of us suffer.

If it's right that each new mutation of the virus becomes slightly weaker then there's no reason why the unvaccinated should cause any problems.  They'll just catch it, be ill for a bit, recover and have shiny new antibodies swarming around inside them!  :y

There are those who wish to perpetuate the hysteria though, and in my view they shouldn't be allowed to dominate the narrative whatever their reasons are.  >:(  :-X
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Raeturbo on 22 December 2021, 21:52:20
If you are coming to Spain for xmas, we are all back to masks outside even if you can socially distance.

That's almost as absurd as the new rule coming in Wales, where you can get a £60 fine for going to work, but it's OK to go out on the piss!  ;D
               Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it pick you up at 10😂😂
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 23 December 2021, 11:24:56

.... like all these facts, who knows what is true, made up, or a lie.  Even Boris cannot apparently make up his mind because of a shortage of “facts” ;D ;D

Well in other good Covid news today Lizzie, scientists here in the UK are saying (reluctantly I'd imagine) that the South African's have been right for weeks about Omicon producing a mild illness.  :y

So when you put that together with other things that we know about Covid, like 99% of people survive it, you often have to have a test to know if you even have it and only 7% of the people tested yesterday were positive, it hardly seems right to impose more restrictions on peoples ;) lives and lively hoods.  Does it?  ???

Even if Britain's corrupt media are demanding it!  ::)   :-X

I agree with that entirely Sir Tigger :y

The more I have heard today suggests that with the majority now vaccinated and this Covid strain mild, there should be no more restrictions.  Business, which gives people their livelihood’s and puts food on the table, MUST have no further restrictions placed on them.  Everyone being vaccinated, ok. Face masks, ok.  Good hygiene, ok.  Sensible precautions, ok.  But no more, and if those who decide still to not be vaccinated, ok, but let them not affect business and not dictate what controls the rest of us suffer.

If it's right that each new mutation of the virus becomes slightly weaker then there's no reason why the unvaccinated should cause any problems.  They'll just catch it, be ill for a bit, recover and have shiny new antibodies swarming around inside them!  :y

There are those who wish to perpetuate the hysteria though, and in my view they shouldn't be allowed to dominate the narrative whatever their reasons are.  >:(  :-X

Agreed! :y :y

The "facts" that are coming out now appear to support that approach ;)
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: LC0112G on 23 December 2021, 12:26:54
Sitrep.

Left Tignes around 06:30CET, satnav predicting arrival at Calais 16:04. Even with a 10 minute pit stop for fuel at the Metal chicken (Aire de Poulet de Bresse) managed to shave 50 minutes off that before we stopped for our traditional Wine, Cheese and Foie Gras stop at Reims. 600+ miles and virtually no traffic. Only started seeing a few British cars as we approached Calais - but probably less than a dozen on the whole trip.

Arrived at a deserted Eurotunnel about 16:30 CET - 4 check-in booths open but no other cars around. We were booked on the 17:50, but they offered us the earlier 17:20, which we accepted.  Then we just drove slowly through the bollard maze they've erected in the terminal car park and through to immigration. As expected disinterested French staff - although they had pulled over one swiss car for the rubber glove treatment. The UK lot were no more interested. Passports stamped by the French and on our way - no-one interested in any of the other guff. Then we just drove slowly through the rest of the bollard maze they've erected, straight through the normal queuing area, green arrow lights on all the way, down the ramp and straight onto the train. There were only 7 other cars on our deck when we left at 16:50 (each train carriage usually takes 5-6 cars and only 2 of the (12?) carriages had any cars in it.

Off the train by 16:30GMT, and up to Bluewater. What a fustercluck of a place that is - my ideal of hell. We were 2 hours early for our pre-booked test time (19:20), but that didn't seem to matter. Day2 PCR test done and off again by 18:00. M25, A13, North Circ to drop off a fellow traveller in Neasden, then home to civilisation in Somerset via A40, M25, M3, A303.  Home by 10PM.

So now just got to wait for an EMAIL to say whether I've brought the plague back to plague island or not. Gives me some time to unpack 12 days of stale kacks and socks I suppose.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 23 December 2021, 13:07:26
A painless experience, then. Always nice to avoid having to mix with the great unwashed.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 23 December 2021, 13:10:15
When you say that the border staff were 'disinterested', did they not ask to seethe results of your LFD to travel back or the booking details of your 2 day PCR?
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 December 2021, 13:28:25
Some good news today.  :)

Almost 93% of people tested yesterday returned a negative result or in other words didn't have Covid!  :y

You won't hear that on the BBC!  ;D

During WW2  the MSM media did as it was told. It reported what it was allowed to report. I can see why. In 2020/21 The same rules apply with covid the MSM all singing the same song 'get vaccinated'..... :-X
 

The BBC is especially compliant.  :-X :-X



Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: LC0112G on 23 December 2021, 13:29:52
When you say that the border staff were 'disinterested', did they not ask to seethe results of your LFD to travel back or the booking details of your 2 day PCR?

Nope.

I *think* the responsibility for making sure you've dotted all the I's and crossed all the T's has been foisted onto your chosen carrier - whether that be an Airline or in our case Eurotunnel. We uploaded all the pre-departure stuff to the Eurotunnel website. I presume if you're flying you upload it to your airline's site. If you don't upload it then I suspect you'll have to present it at check-in.

The Passenger Location Form (PLF) you have to fill in online on a govt website within 48hrs of travel. That contains details of who you've booked your Day2 PCR with, but since you haven't yet taken it there isn't anything else for them to check.

All immigration are interested in are that the photo in the passport you present looks vaguely like the person presenting it.
Title: Re: Covid tests for travel
Post by: STEMO on 23 December 2021, 15:52:36
When you say that the border staff were 'disinterested', did they not ask to seethe results of your LFD to travel back or the booking details of your 2 day PCR?

Nope.

I *think* the responsibility for making sure you've dotted all the I's and crossed all the T's has been foisted onto your chosen carrier - whether that be an Airline or in our case Eurotunnel. We uploaded all the pre-departure stuff to the Eurotunnel website. I presume if you're flying you upload it to your airline's site. If you don't upload it then I suspect you'll have to present it at check-in.

The Passenger Location Form (PLF) you have to fill in online on a govt website within 48hrs of travel. That contains details of who you've booked your Day2 PCR with, but since you haven't yet taken it there isn't anything else for them to check.

All immigration are interested in are that the photo in the passport you present looks vaguely like the person presenting it.
Thank you. It's what I suspected but good to get first hand experience.