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[feeutfo]

I was using kevs terminology until wing commander bloody Entwood intervened

[Andy B]

If it(the bearing) existed. Which it doesn't, because the hub is part of the bearing itself.

Have you got an old hub? 

[feeutfo]

If it(the bearing) existed. Which it doesn't, because the hub is part of the bearing itself.

Have you got an old hub? 

yes Andy. The one in the picture.

[Andy B]

If it(the bearing) existed. Which it doesn't, because the hub is part of the bearing itself.

Have you got an old hub? 

yes Andy. The one in the picture.

Take it to somewhere that can run a good bead of weld along the outer (Kev's inner ) ie where the bearing race runs, and watch it fall out. 

[feeutfo]

If it(the bearing) existed. Which it doesn't, because the hub is part of the bearing itself.

Have you got an old hub? 

yes Andy. The one in the picture.

Take it to somewhere that can run a good bead of weld along the outer (Kev's inner ) ie where the bearing race runs, and watch it fall out. 

If all it takes for it to fall out is a bead of Weald then we are all driving round in death traps.

And if heat expands, why will it fall out? Do we not need to heat the hub?

[henryd]

If it(the bearing) existed. Which it doesn't, because the hub is part of the bearing itself.

Have you got an old hub? 

yes Andy. The one in the picture.

Take it to somewhere that can run a good bead of weld along the outer (Kev's inner ) ie where the bearing race runs, and watch it fall out. 

If all it takes for it to fall out is a bead of Weald then we are all driving round in death traps.

And if heat expands, why will it fall out? Do we not head to heat the hub?

No we are not,doesn't matter if the bearings press in and out easily,once fitted to the stubaxle and bolted up they are retained

[henryd]

This is what the exploded view of the hub will look like

http://www.timken.com/en-us/products/bearings/productlist/integrated/PublishingImages/wheel-pac-exploded.gif

[feeutfo]

There no point discussing this, nobodys listening

[feeutfo]

Right, all that aside...

I'll look further into this, IF somebody can prove to me that a complete baring is available to buy.

[Lazydocker]

If you can get FAG Hub assy for sixty five quid is it really worth mucking about trying to fine bearings that fit and to try and fit them?

Andy
Hi Andy, we used to use conti tech barings for £35 odd, but these turned to shite as soon as I started using them for some reason. It transpires these are not oe quality, and it was not possible to tighten out all the play.
 Hence a search for oe quality barings.
 
There is an oof legend, similar to the Carlton bush legend, that the baring can be pressed out of the hub. This a myth.

Can't see how it's a myth. It must be possible because they are not cast into the hub assembly, they are a separate item from a different material Whether it's worthwhile or not is a different question, but it will be possible

[omega3000]

There no point discussing this, nobodys listening

 

[YZ250]

Chris,
To satisfy your curiosity, why don't you pop in to a bearing company and ask them. When we cannot match bearings for machines at work from a catalogue, we ask someone like 'Bolts & Bearings' for their advice.
On a side note, when I was a toolmaker for MOD, I have fitted parts that appear to not come off.  A quick example would be a spigot dipped in Liquid Nitrogen (in a controlled area of course) and a bearing/bush at just above room temperature. Push the two together, let them settle to normal temperature and you would swear that they were inseparable. A large company would cruise a process like this as I am talking years ago.
Failing that, as others have said, you'll have to dissect it to satisfy your curiosity. 

Just a thought. 

Regards
Alan

[andyc]

Ok i think i know what Chris is talking about



Although the pic is a taper bearing set it give you an idea. I think what Chris is trying to say is that item No1 is the outer race and its this part that is part of the hub assy so won't come out

No3 is the inner race and its this part that have the shaft running through it. from the pics Chris has posted he has got No3 out and No2 but not No1

Anywhere close Chris?

Andy

[05omegav6]

Is it possible that GM are unable to supply the bearings and hubs seperately because they were only ever supplied as a complete unit  therefore VX would only ever be able to sell a complete hub assembly...

I think that Andy C understands the point that Chris is trying to make

Only two solutions

1. Fight

2. Slice one in half and see what falls out

[feeutfo]

That's it Andyc.  Correct.

 Search the baring number. A baring on its own does not come up. Only the complete unit. That is because they are one in the same.

As said, I'm not waisting any more time tools etc with this until a supplier can be found for a complete baring unit that presses in to the hub. Show me one of those purchased ready for pressing and I'll take it further.


But don't waist your time. All you'll find is the complete unit.