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Political discussion on OOF - allowed or not?

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Taxi_Driver

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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #90 on: 18 April 2013, 17:58:09 »

Anyway things can get more interesting when there's a bit of mudslinging!  ;D

I've suggested it before, but maybe we should have a 'Handbags' section, so when things kick off in whatever type of thread, then the Mods move it to 'handbags'.... 

Then if you've had a hard day and fancy a bit of a chuckle you can head to Handbags and wonder at the irate member berating another because he disagrees with the angle a mudflap should be set at....  ::)

I think thats quite a good idea (or called whatever) with a warning saying its unmoderated......and just let them get on with it unmoderated  :y
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #91 on: 18 April 2013, 18:02:45 »

you started her of now H21  :) this is just the begining :o
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« Reply #92 on: 18 April 2013, 18:05:32 »

Anyway things can get more interesting when there's a bit of mudslinging!  ;D

I've suggested it before, but maybe we should have a 'Handbags' section, so when things kick off in whatever type of thread, then the Mods move it to 'handbags'.... 

Then if you've had a hard day and fancy a bit of a chuckle you can head to Handbags and wonder at the irate member berating another because he disagrees with the angle a mudflap should be set at....  ::)

I think thats quite a good idea (or called whatever) with a warning saying its unmoderated......and just let them get on with it unmoderated  :y

I said pretty much the same thing a while ago. but I dint think the mods wanted it (note ill support whatever the mods decide  :y)

having thought about it a bit though, what if it got really out of hand.... racism, threats etc? I don't see that happening but its a potential and OOF wouldn't want to be associated with that imo  :y
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« Reply #93 on: 18 April 2013, 18:06:05 »

you started her of now H21  :) this is just the begining :o

Well Hitler's birthday is in two days time, and I just hope I do not have to refer to him and his evil regime in this thread! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)


Ooooooops!  now I have!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #94 on: 18 April 2013, 18:11:06 »

Contradiction??  ???

you started her of now H21  :) this is just the begining :o

Well Hitler's birthday is in two days time, and I just hope I do not have to refer to him and his evil regime in this thread! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)


Ooooooops!  now I have!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Thanks Paul, and for the earlier post where you quoted me :-* :-* :y :y

Surprise, surprise I agree with your comments entirely and would never want a ban placed on "Political" or any other type of thread.

We live in a democracy with a God given right to free speech that our Great Country has fought hard for at a huge cost in blood and power.  This forum is part of the UK, being based here, and should be an extension of our democracy.  There are no Chinese, North Korean or Russian 'Masters' to restrict our intellectual property, that of free thought and expression of ideas, observations, along with criticism. No one person therefore should have the power to restrict the flow of expression on the OOF, providing the comments do not directly offend, insult, or impinge on the freedom of others.

If the OOF was to impose a ban on all delicate or controversial threads, it will devalue itself and become a sterile, puerile, dumb-downed area of non-activity for thought and mind.  It will be just a car forum, nothing else, nothing more, and how many people on here really want to discuss cars continually?  I suggest the active membership on here would fall away dramatically.

snippo

So I say let their be freedom for all on here to discuss what they have a heart to, whilst having respect for fellow humans! :y :y
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #95 on: 18 April 2013, 18:12:10 »

Anyway things can get more interesting when there's a bit of mudslinging!  ;D

I've suggested it before, but maybe we should have a 'Handbags' section, so when things kick off in whatever type of thread, then the Mods move it to 'handbags'.... 

Then if you've had a hard day and fancy a bit of a chuckle you can head to Handbags and wonder at the irate member berating another because he disagrees with the angle a mudflap should be set at....  ::)

I think thats quite a good idea (or called whatever) with a warning saying its unmoderated......and just let them get on with it unmoderated  :y

I said pretty much the same thing a while ago. but I dint think the mods wanted it (note ill support whatever the mods decide  :y)

having thought about it a bit though, what if it got really out of hand.... racism, threats etc? I don't see that happening but its a potential and OOF wouldn't want to be associated with that imo  :y

this is really adults playtime teddy bear if some one got up set by something i said i would apologise and let them share my sweets :)
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #96 on: 18 April 2013, 18:12:31 »

you started her of now H21  :) this is just the begining :o

Well Hitler's birthday is in two days time, and I just hope I do not have to refer to him and his evil regime in this thread! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)


Ooooooops!  now I have!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Too far to the left of Ghengis Khan for me ::)  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #97 on: 18 April 2013, 18:14:40 »

Anyway things can get more interesting when there's a bit of mudslinging!  ;D

I've suggested it before, but maybe we should have a 'Handbags' section, so when things kick off in whatever type of thread, then the Mods move it to 'handbags'.... 

Then if you've had a hard day and fancy a bit of a chuckle you can head to Handbags and wonder at the irate member berating another because he disagrees with the angle a mudflap should be set at....  ::)

I think thats quite a good idea (or called whatever) with a warning saying its unmoderated......and just let them get on with it unmoderated  :y

I said pretty much the same thing a while ago. but I dint think the mods wanted it (note ill support whatever the mods decide  :y)

having thought about it a bit though, what if it got really out of hand.... racism, threats etc? I don't see that happening but its a potential and OOF wouldn't want to be associated with that imo  :y

this is really adults playtime teddy bear if some one got up set by something i said i would apologise and let them share my sweets :)

completely agree mate, I hate upsetting people and if I do i'm the first to apologise. are there people out there(in the world, not OOF) that think differently though  :-\
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #98 on: 18 April 2013, 18:16:25 »

Anyway things can get more interesting when there's a bit of mudslinging!  ;D

I've suggested it before, but maybe we should have a 'Handbags' section, so when things kick off in whatever type of thread, then the Mods move it to 'handbags'.... 

Then if you've had a hard day and fancy a bit of a chuckle you can head to Handbags and wonder at the irate member berating another because he disagrees with the angle a mudflap should be set at....  ::)

I think thats quite a good idea (or called whatever) with a warning saying its unmoderated......and just let them get on with it unmoderated  :y

I said pretty much the same thing a while ago. but I dint think the mods wanted it (note ill support whatever the mods decide  :y)

having thought about it a bit though, what if it got really out of hand.... racism, threats etc? I don't see that happening but its a potential and OOF wouldn't want to be associated with that imo  :y

I can see your point  :y and its a difficult one .... maybe along the same lines.....but this was moved to this section as a warning......if it gets any worse it will get deleted no warnings  :-\

Personally tho and ive been sitting on the fence a bit on which way to vote.....ive just decided  :)
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Lizzie_Zoom

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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #99 on: 18 April 2013, 18:16:39 »

Contradiction??  ???

you started her of now H21  :) this is just the begining :o

Well Hitler's birthday is in two days time, and I just hope I do not have to refer to him and his evil regime in this thread! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)


Ooooooops!  now I have!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Thanks Paul, and for the earlier post where you quoted me :-* :-* :y :y

Surprise, surprise I agree with your comments entirely and would never want a ban placed on "Political" or any other type of thread.

We live in a democracy with a God given right to free speech that our Great Country has fought hard for at a huge cost in blood and power.  This forum is part of the UK, being based here, and should be an extension of our democracy.  There are no Chinese, North Korean or Russian 'Masters' to restrict our intellectual property, that of free thought and expression of ideas, observations, along with criticism. No one person therefore should have the power to restrict the flow of expression on the OOF, providing the comments do not directly offend, insult, or impinge on the freedom of others.

If the OOF was to impose a ban on all delicate or controversial threads, it will devalue itself and become a sterile, puerile, dumb-downed area of non-activity for thought and mind.  It will be just a car forum, nothing else, nothing more, and how many people on here really want to discuss cars continually?  I suggest the active membership on here would fall away dramatically.

snippo

So I say let their be freedom for all on here to discuss what they have a heart to, whilst having respect for fellow humans! :y :y


No Hotel21, not at all.  You can work that both ways.  I have freely spoken of Hitler and his evil regime on a free forum.  If a ban was placed on such comment, as would have been the case within that regime, then it proves how any restriction can halt the spread of knowledge, understanding, and an ability of an individual to grasp great events that affect us all to this day.  Who has the right to stop that "flow"? ;)
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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #100 on: 18 April 2013, 18:17:50 »

I love this. A thread about banning threads that turn nasty threatening to turn nasty. ;D

Bollix :P
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albitz

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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #101 on: 18 April 2013, 18:29:59 »

At the end of the day the admins have the right to stop the flow or do anything else they want to do.They own the site and can decide what is or isnt allowed.It isnt a democracy.
I feel that the probem is much wider than political threads tbh.Overtly political threads could,if they wished,be put in their own sticky jusy like jokes have.But maybe they know that isnt really the be all and end all of the problems ?
Once upon a time OOF was a brilliant place to come after a day at work and laugh until your stomach muscles hurt,have cruel but very harmless banter etc etc.
Imo that was a fantastically happy coincidence of those particular people meeting each other (online) at that particular time. It would be great if it could have been bottled so to speak and brought back out and sprinkled around like holy water when things got a bit boring.
Life isnt like that unfortunately,and we cant repeat how things once were.That was then,this is now,and OOF is what it is now.
There are various reasons imo,for why things have ended up like they are,and Im sure everyone has a different opinion on the subject.
Imo the question for the admins actually is - should it be allowed to carry on as it now is or is it time to switch of the server. Only they can answer that.If they are really unhappy about the direction OOF is heading in,then they need to decide individually and as a group if they feel its worth their time and effort to keep it going or whether to call it a day before it becomes unbearably tedious.
Personally, I have no strong feelings one way or the other.
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Lizzie_Zoom

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« Reply #102 on: 18 April 2013, 18:44:27 »

At the end of the day the admins have the right to stop the flow or do anything else they want to do.They own the site and can decide what is or isnt allowed.It isnt a democracy.
I feel that the probem is much wider than political threads tbh.Overtly political threads could,if they wished,be put in their own sticky jusy like jokes have.But maybe they know that isnt really the be all and end all of the problems ?
Once upon a time OOF was a brilliant place to come after a day at work and laugh until your stomach muscles hurt,have cruel but very harmless banter etc etc.
Imo that was a fantastically happy coincidence of those particular people meeting each other (online) at that particular time. It would be great if it could have been bottled so to speak and brought back out and sprinkled around like holy water when things got a bit boring.
Life isnt like that unfortunately,and we cant repeat how things once were.That was then,this is now,and OOF is what it is now.
There are various reasons imo,for why things have ended up like they are,and Im sure everyone has a different opinion on the subject.
Imo the question for the admins actually is - should it be allowed to carry on as it now is or is it time to switch of the server. Only they can answer that.If they are really unhappy about the direction OOF is heading in,then they need to decide individually and as a group if they feel its worth their time and effort to keep it going or whether to call it a day before it becomes unbearably tedious.
Personally, I have no strong feelings one way or the other.


Sorry Albitz, but yes it is due to the Admins authorizing:
"General Chat is what it says, you can talk about anything and everything as long as it is legal."
as per the site guide.

If the forum is not part of our democracy, then I will be very disappointed and will review my contribution to the OOF. ;) ;)
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albitz

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Re: Politics and stuff
« Reply #103 on: 18 April 2013, 18:49:18 »

True - but,they of course reserve the right to amend that,which it would appear they are now considering. ;)
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« Reply #104 on: 18 April 2013, 18:50:21 »

True - but,they of course reserve the right to amend that,which it would appear they are now considering. ;)

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