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[STEMO]

Your moving the goalposts. 0.015 % figure suited your argument in one post but changes to 5% when it suits in another.
You either have freedom of speech or you dont. Having controlled freedom of speech is like being a little bit pregnant.
If you disagree with what someone says dont ban them from saying it, argue against what they said.

Please show me the post where I quoted that figure. 

Ok Mrs Pedant. Nick said it and you then replied "well said Nick". 

Please reply to the rest of the post. Not just the four words you highlighted. 

If you read my recent posts you will see my explanation of why freedom of speech should be restricted when on a public forum when discussing a very human issue that could result in death.

Yeah, they all own Vauxhall omegas 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Oh dear lizzie.....I see you are pulling the 'rozzer card' which I suppose is much like the race card. I suppose when common sense and reason are are replaced with SJW wokery then shutting down any further conversation is the usual route to take. Nazi Germany anyone?

You say the vulnerable must be protected but protected from what?.......let me think. Could it be they need protecting from an opinion that doesn't mirror your own. This is the stuff of woke kids in the American college system where everybody needs to be silenced until they are all singing from the same prayer book usually from an extreme left wing point of view

You can say whatever you want. I may not agree but you can say it. From your point of view you want to shut things down and no doubt you will try to spin a difference of opinion into 'hate speech'. Be aware Lizzie that there is a difference between hate speech and speech you hate......and you do not get to play God.

I am of the opinion (along with most people) of thinking that trans surgery should not happen until the person in question is old enough to consent......that is  not an impressionable child who may well change their mind,.......wow shock horror how evil.

Don't try and tell me what to think.

Yet again you are misinformed!!!

No one under the age of 18 can undergo  gender reassignment surgery in the UK. A child needing to go on puberty blockers MUST also get permission from the courts if it can be proved by professional that it is in the child's best interests.

What has the USA got to do with all this in the UK?

You are so up yourself on this subject that you are just spouting ignorant rubbish to try and justify your bias!!

Strewth...just listen to yourself woman. Puberty blockers are not the same as jelly tots and smarties. They are potent and come with consequences.

How you think this is normal is beyond me.

[Lizzie Zoom]

I love the way Lizzie talks about free speech but then threatens to call her friends in the police if I/we don't manage our thinking in a way she deems acceptable.

Great book 1984.

I have NOT threatened to call anyone!!

I just pointed out that you and others should think deeply about the offensive comments that have been made on the subject of trans people on a public forum.

[STEMO]

I love the way Lizzie talks about free speech but then threatens to call her friends in the police if I/we don't manage our thinking in a way she deems acceptable.

Great book 1984.

I have NOT threatened to call anyone!!

I just pointed out that you and others should think deeply about the offensive comments that have been made on the subject of trans people on a public forum.

Why? 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

One persons offensive is another persons common sense.
Who gets to decide ? 

[STEMO]

It's a car forum for omega owners, the only reason somebody of that ilk would be on here is to look for something that they can be outraged about. Ring any bells?

[Lizzie Zoom]

Oh dear lizzie.....I see you are pulling the 'rozzer card' which I suppose is much like the race card. I suppose when common sense and reason are are replaced with SJW wokery then shutting down any further conversation is the usual route to take. Nazi Germany anyone?

You say the vulnerable must be protected but protected from what?.......let me think. Could it be they need protecting from an opinion that doesn't mirror your own. This is the stuff of woke kids in the American college system where everybody needs to be silenced until they are all singing from the same prayer book usually from an extreme left wing point of view

You can say whatever you want. I may not agree but you can say it. From your point of view you want to shut things down and no doubt you will try to spin a difference of opinion into 'hate speech'. Be aware Lizzie that there is a difference between hate speech and speech you hate......and you do not get to play God.

I am of the opinion (along with most people) of thinking that trans surgery should not happen until the person in question is old enough to consent......that is  not an impressionable child who may well change their mind,.......wow shock horror how evil.

Don't try and tell me what to think.

Yet again you are misinformed!!!

No one under the age of 18 can undergo  gender reassignment surgery in the UK. A child needing to go on puberty blockers MUST also get permission from the courts if it can be proved by professional that it is in the child's best interests.

What has the USA got to do with all this in the UK?

You are so up yourself on this subject that you are just spouting ignorant rubbish to try and justify your bias!!

Strewth...just listen to yourself woman. Puberty blockers are not the same as jelly tots and smarties. They are potent and come with consequences.

How you think this is normal is beyond me.

Yes, it is all beyond you as you are an ignorant old man who will not listen to reason, unless it is about touching up women and talking about our "bits" and generally degrading us

You are the past.  Welcome to the new enlightened World.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I love the way Lizzie talks about free speech but then threatens to call her friends in the police if I/we don't manage our thinking in a way she deems acceptable.

Great book 1984.

I have NOT threatened to call anyone!!

I just pointed out that you and others should think deeply about the offensive comments that have been made on the subject of trans people on a public forum.

Being offensive is subjective.......some may be offended others may not. There you go again Lizzie trying to control on things you don't personally like or agree with.

Dictator Lizzie... Best you don't mention free speech again.

[Lizzie Zoom]

I love the way Lizzie talks about free speech but then threatens to call her friends in the police if I/we don't manage our thinking in a way she deems acceptable.

Great book 1984.

I have NOT threatened to call anyone!!

I just pointed out that you and others should think deeply about the offensive comments that have been made on the subject of trans people on a public forum.

Why? 

Because on this issue it can cause very great distress to those already vulnerable and unsure about themselves, just like on any other social media site, with terrible consequences. But I have covered that before

[STEMO]

Oh dear lizzie.....I see you are pulling the 'rozzer card' which I suppose is much like the race card. I suppose when common sense and reason are are replaced with SJW wokery then shutting down any further conversation is the usual route to take. Nazi Germany anyone?

You say the vulnerable must be protected but protected from what?.......let me think. Could it be they need protecting from an opinion that doesn't mirror your own. This is the stuff of woke kids in the American college system where everybody needs to be silenced until they are all singing from the same prayer book usually from an extreme left wing point of view

You can say whatever you want. I may not agree but you can say it. From your point of view you want to shut things down and no doubt you will try to spin a difference of opinion into 'hate speech'. Be aware Lizzie that there is a difference between hate speech and speech you hate......and you do not get to play God.

I am of the opinion (along with most people) of thinking that trans surgery should not happen until the person in question is old enough to consent......that is  not an impressionable child who may well change their mind,.......wow shock horror how evil.

Don't try and tell me what to think.

Yet again you are misinformed!!!

No one under the age of 18 can undergo  gender reassignment surgery in the UK. A child needing to go on puberty blockers MUST also get permission from the courts if it can be proved by professional that it is in the child's best interests.

What has the USA got to do with all this in the UK?

You are so up yourself on this subject that you are just spouting ignorant rubbish to try and justify your bias!!

Strewth...just listen to yourself woman. Puberty blockers are not the same as jelly tots and smarties. They are potent and come with consequences.

How you think this is normal is beyond me.

Yes, it is all beyond you as you are an ignorant old man who will not listen to reason, unless it is about touching up women and talking about our "bits" and generally degrade us

You are the past.  Welcome to the new enlightened World.

I think you'll find that the views on here are the majority, your enlightened world only exists in small, vociferous groups who rely on the law to protect them from mainstream opinions.

[STEMO]

This forum is, generally, full of men who are of a certain persuasion. I have no idea why you think anyone is going to take a lot of notice of what you say, Lizzie. Barking up the wrong tree, I think.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Oh dear lizzie.....I see you are pulling the 'rozzer card' which I suppose is much like the race card. I suppose when common sense and reason are are replaced with SJW wokery then shutting down any further conversation is the usual route to take. Nazi Germany anyone?

You say the vulnerable must be protected but protected from what?.......let me think. Could it be they need protecting from an opinion that doesn't mirror your own. This is the stuff of woke kids in the American college system where everybody needs to be silenced until they are all singing from the same prayer book usually from an extreme left wing point of view

You can say whatever you want. I may not agree but you can say it. From your point of view you want to shut things down and no doubt you will try to spin a difference of opinion into 'hate speech'. Be aware Lizzie that there is a difference between hate speech and speech you hate......and you do not get to play God.

I am of the opinion (along with most people) of thinking that trans surgery should not happen until the person in question is old enough to consent......that is  not an impressionable child who may well change their mind,.......wow shock horror how evil.

Don't try and tell me what to think.

Yet again you are misinformed!!!

No one under the age of 18 can undergo  gender reassignment surgery in the UK. A child needing to go on puberty blockers MUST also get permission from the courts if it can be proved by professional that it is in the child's best interests.

What has the USA got to do with all this in the UK?

You are so up yourself on this subject that you are just spouting ignorant rubbish to try and justify your bias!!

Strewth...just listen to yourself woman. Puberty blockers are not the same as jelly tots and smarties. They are potent and come with consequences.

How you think this is normal is beyond me.

Yes, it is all beyond you as you are an ignorant old man who will not listen to reason, unless it is about touching up women and talking about our "bits" and generally degrade us

You are the past.  Welcome to the new enlightened World.

I think you'll find that the views on here are the majority, your enlightened world only exists in small, vociferous groups who rely on the law to protect them from mainstream opinions.

On the OOF the majority?!! You believe the very few who have posted on this thread represent the majority of what - how many members have actually commented?   

So you think the majority must always rule?  Yes, Hitler loved that and also killed off the minorities as the majority did nothing.  That was OK then?

With Freedom of Speech comes a great responsibility of avoiding giving great pain to others by choosing how and what you say. 

[Lizzie Zoom]

This forum is, generally, full of men who are of a certain persuasion. I have no idea why you think anyone is going to take a lot of notice of what you say, Lizzie. Barking up the wrong tree, I think.

Now that I 100% agree with Steve!!

But a girl must try against the tide..................

[STEMO]

For the greater good.....🇬🇧

[Lizzie Zoom]

For the greater good.....🇬🇧

Yes