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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #180 on: 08 March 2022, 22:59:20 »

It has just been announced that Poland will hand over it’s Mig jets to the USA for handing on to Ukraine.

Now this could start a trend for NATO and give Putin heart failure.  I bloody hope so! :D :D ;)

Within NATO, only Poland, Bulgaria, Slovakia and the US operate Mig-29s.

Poland also operate about 50 US made F-16's, and these could probably cover for the 'gifted' 20 odd Mig-29s whilst replacement aircraft are supplied to Poland. Poland has 24 F-35's on order, plus options on another 24, but the first of these won't be delivered till 2025.

Slovakia and Bulgaria have no other options though. They have ordered brand new F-16's, but these aren't due for delivery till 2025-27 and I don't think they have any pilots in training yet. Even though they both own more than 20 Mig-29's only a handful have actually flown in the past 5 years. It's doubtful either country could get more than 8 airworthy on any one day.

The US 'obtained' an unknown number (around 12) of Mig-29s from Moldova when the Warsaw Pact disintegrated. These were used in 'special programs' at Area51 and Tonapah. Most are now preserved or in museums, but a few are believed to still be "active".

The only other current operator in Europe is Serbia who have 14 recently upgraded Mig-29's. However, they're generally fairly pro-Russia, so I doubt they'll want to get involved.

Past European operators include Hungary and Romania, but their aircraft haven't flown for probably 10 years, and are currently just littering their ex bases at Constanta and Kescekmet. Moldova still have 6, but they haven't flown for 30 years. Can't see any of these being any use quickly. The Czechs and Germans did operate them, but sold them to Poland - that's where most of Polands 30 aircraft came from in the first place.
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #181 on: 09 March 2022, 08:24:14 »

Apparently the USA have turned down the Polish "offer".
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #182 on: 09 March 2022, 09:49:09 »

Apparently the USA have turned down the Polish "offer".

Joe woke up ? or Blinken blinked?  ::)
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #183 on: 09 March 2022, 10:51:46 »

Biden showed the world that he doesnt actually have a spine.  ::)
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #184 on: 09 March 2022, 11:44:03 »

Biden showed the world that he doesnt actually have a spine.  ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D What a load of 💩

Biden is showing leadership and has bipartisan support across the house for his actions. Your mate trump would have sent planes to Russia. I thank god that Biden was in the Whitehouse when this invasion took place, Trump would have cut NATO adrift under his America First policy. I can't see Biden standing again in 2024, he's too old, but he has certainly proved to be able in difficult times. I shudder to think what the orange, illiterate moron would have done.

"Georgia? Surely Putin wouldn't invade one of our states? "  ;D
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #185 on: 09 March 2022, 11:49:57 »

Biden showed the world that he doesnt actually have a spine.  ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D What a load of 💩


You're forgetting that doing anything other than strapping on the Presidential BandanaTm (replicas available on Amazon for only $456.73 direct from China), oiling his massive pecs then rushing into a combat zone wielding matching gold plated M60s, while shouting like a constipated warthog, is weak and the greatest sin of all, un-American
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #186 on: 09 March 2022, 11:51:37 »

Biden showed the world that he doesnt actually have a spine.  ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D What a load of 💩


You're forgetting that doing anything other than strapping on the Presidential BandanaTm (replicas available on Amazon for only $456.73 direct from China), oiling his massive pecs then rushing into a combat zone wielding matching gold plated M60s, while shouting like a constipated warthog, is weak and the greatest sin of all, un-American
I've added to my post, I felt just posting a picture of a turd was too simplistic and Trump like.
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #187 on: 09 March 2022, 19:25:04 »

According to Biden, Russia is invading....... Russia!  ;D  And the Iranian people are suffering because of Putin's actions!  :D
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #188 on: 09 March 2022, 19:30:37 »

He’s very well informed you know😱
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #189 on: 09 March 2022, 19:32:02 »

According to Biden, Russia is invading....... Russia!  ;D  And the Iranian people are suffering because of Putin's actions!  :D
He's confused, not cowardly  ;D
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #190 on: 09 March 2022, 19:39:30 »

That’s not very good credibility for the most powerful man in the world
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #191 on: 09 March 2022, 19:40:13 »

That’s not very good credibility for the most powerful man in the world
Better than the alternative.
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #193 on: 09 March 2022, 20:11:05 »

The latest panic mongering

West fears Russia could use non-conventional weapons https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60683248
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Re: Well, come on, let's do Ukraine
« Reply #194 on: 09 March 2022, 20:49:32 »

They have used some pretty nasty stuff in Syria propping up Assad, so they have form.
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