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[tyreburner]

My tuppence:

As a driver of a coach that weighs 12500kg unladen i can tell you that over 62mph -100kmph (which is what they are limited to) is bloody scary! - i will admit i have had a coach with a broken limiter - no fuse pulled just a bad earth, and i passed the 70mph mark - but as soon as i looked down i backed RIGHT off.
I can also tell you that from my experience it is quite easy to overtake a hgv with my coach i just have to plan ahead i.e how fast is that car coming in the next lane how fast am i gaining on the hgv and from what i remember hgv's are limited to 56mph (thats why few flash me back in ...jealousy   )
I regulary overtake cars aswell on dual carraigeway and single carraigeway - but i know my coaches limits and if the car is doing much more than 40mph i just back off.
Someone mentioned that 40mph on a single carraigeway road for hgv's - i wish they would do that, i am sick of sitting at my allowed 50mph to find some artic trying to find a place to pass me. or bully me into speeding up


Limiters arent dangerous -  having  NO limiter with 10litres of engine, 12500kg unladen weight, 380+bhp and 57 LIVES ON BOARD is!!!

Mick

P.S could we just also clarify something a bus has 2 doors and standing is allowed, a COACH has one door and no standing!!  

You certainly dont work for National Coaches then. . ..  

Same as all those 70 mph trucks on the motorway...... try stopping one.

Exactly even with a retader, and a Telmar ( huge electro magnet that is wrapped around the propshaft and works REALLY well), and all the anti skid etc i dread ever having to do an emergency stop

[Martin_1962]

Maybe said van driver any myself are in a minority with our views...

but on a practical level, I personally feel that drivers should be at a level that they're competent enough to assess the road conditions and adjust speed acordingly - without the vehicle having to be limited to compensate for this.

Thing is Tunnie, it's not just the minibus. Don't get me wrong, I'm no angel and we've all gone too fast at some point, but I've read threads here where members claim to have driven on public roads at 140mph..

At that speed, get a blowout, and you could easily roll it several times onto the opposite carriageway and cause just as much carnaige.. especially if you take out a van/coach load of people with you...

Given your views that restricting is good, and the possibility that a speeding (passenger car) driver could just as easily CAUSE an accident to a bus full of  people, do you think all road going cars should be limited to 70mph?    

Blowout at 80 - had very little effect, pulled slightly but no issue until under 40.
Managed to limp to a Police turn off to put spare on.

Had a bike front blow out at 80 - no issue until I tried to stop and the front went everywhere.

Not necessarily always the case.  Had a few blowouts when I used to drive the vans all day long, though one in particular was more luck than skill that it didn't end in the ditch. Lose a front catastrophically, and you can get in a bit of trouble

The vehicle concerned had a good chassis design

[TheBoy]

The vehicle concerned had a good chassis design

Or more likely luck was simply on your side that day

[JamesV6CDX]

The vehicle concerned had a good chassis design

Or more likely luck was simply on your side that day

I've had 2 blowouts, one was fine, the other was certainly an experience!

[LaserLance]

My tuppence:

As a driver of a coach that weighs 12500kg unladen i can tell you that over 62mph -100kmph (which is what they are limited to) is bloody scary! - i will admit i have had a coach with a broken limiter - no fuse pulled just a bad earth, and i passed the 70mph mark - but as soon as i looked down i backed RIGHT off.
I can also tell you that from my experience it is quite easy to overtake a hgv with my coach i just have to plan ahead i.e how fast is that car coming in the next lane how fast am i gaining on the hgv and from what i remember hgv's are limited to 56mph (thats why few flash me back in ...jealousy   )
I regulary overtake cars aswell on dual carraigeway and single carraigeway - but i know my coaches limits and if the car is doing much more than 40mph i just back off.
Someone mentioned that 40mph on a single carraigeway road for hgv's - i wish they would do that, i am sick of sitting at my allowed 50mph to find some artic trying to find a place to pass me. or bully me into speeding up


Limiters arent dangerous -  having  NO limiter with 10litres of engine, 12500kg unladen weight, 380+bhp and 57 LIVES ON BOARD is!!!

Mick

P.S could we just also clarify something a bus has 2 doors and standing is allowed, a COACH has one door and no standing!!  

You certainly dont work for National Coaches then. . ..  

Same as all those 70 mph trucks on the motorway...... try stopping one.

Exactly even with a retader, and a Telmar ( huge electro magnet that is wrapped around the propshaft and works REALLY well), and all the anti skid etc i dread ever having to do an emergency stop

you want try it with a bit that bends in middle and 30 tonnes behind you  that make your bum eat cloth i can tell you  

[JamesV6CDX]

Friend of mine is a lorry driver.

He picked up a load, ticket said a permitted weight.

He went to brake, couldn't stop!!

[albitz]

Broocie, just out of interest, what would your view be on limiting cars in a simelar way?

As I have explained in other posts, I say ABOUT 18, because some travelled by car and I don't know the exact number.

Everyone had a seat and belt though, so I don't think we were over...

Cars are already limited to 158 mph, if I recall.  You know the uproar that causes at the moment, imagine taking it to 70??  Especially if the Autobahn (non) limit is still available?

As long as each seat had an arse on it and none left over, than thats the 'about 18' covered....  

afaik its only the german (saloon) cars which are restricted,under a voluntary agreement to appease the the h&s/tree hugging lobby.  :-/

Dont think so.  Agreement is between all mainline manufacturers, as far as I understand it.....  

It is a multi lateral agreement between the various manufacturers, the German government and the greenies

Bmw/merc/vag ,not porsche or any non german manufacturers.

[tyreburner]

My tuppence:

As a driver of a coach that weighs 12500kg unladen i can tell you that over 62mph -100kmph (which is what they are limited to) is bloody scary! - i will admit i have had a coach with a broken limiter - no fuse pulled just a bad earth, and i passed the 70mph mark - but as soon as i looked down i backed RIGHT off.
I can also tell you that from my experience it is quite easy to overtake a hgv with my coach i just have to plan ahead i.e how fast is that car coming in the next lane how fast am i gaining on the hgv and from what i remember hgv's are limited to 56mph (thats why few flash me back in ...jealousy   )
I regulary overtake cars aswell on dual carraigeway and single carraigeway - but i know my coaches limits and if the car is doing much more than 40mph i just back off.
Someone mentioned that 40mph on a single carraigeway road for hgv's - i wish they would do that, i am sick of sitting at my allowed 50mph to find some artic trying to find a place to pass me. or bully me into speeding up


Limiters arent dangerous -  having  NO limiter with 10litres of engine, 12500kg unladen weight, 380+bhp and 57 LIVES ON BOARD is!!!

Mick

P.S could we just also clarify something a bus has 2 doors and standing is allowed, a COACH has one door and no standing!!  

You certainly dont work for National Coaches then. . ..  

Same as all those 70 mph trucks on the motorway...... try stopping one.

Exactly even with a retader, and a Telmar ( huge electro magnet that is wrapped around the propshaft and works REALLY well), and all the anti skid etc i dread ever having to do an emergency stop

you want try it with a bit that bends in middle and 30 tonnes behind you  that make your bum eat cloth i can tell you  

I would love to if i had the cash - at least then my cargo wouldnt speak/whinge/complain to me lol

[hotel21]

My tuppence:

As a driver of a coach that weighs 12500kg unladen i can tell you that over 62mph -100kmph (which is what they are limited to) is bloody scary! - i will admit i have had a coach with a broken limiter - no fuse pulled just a bad earth, and i passed the 70mph mark - but as soon as i looked down i backed RIGHT off.
I can also tell you that from my experience it is quite easy to overtake a hgv with my coach i just have to plan ahead i.e how fast is that car coming in the next lane how fast am i gaining on the hgv and from what i remember hgv's are limited to 56mph (thats why few flash me back in ...jealousy   )
I regulary overtake cars aswell on dual carraigeway and single carraigeway - but i know my coaches limits and if the car is doing much more than 40mph i just back off.
Someone mentioned that 40mph on a single carraigeway road for hgv's - i wish they would do that, i am sick of sitting at my allowed 50mph to find some artic trying to find a place to pass me. or bully me into speeding up


Limiters arent dangerous -  having  NO limiter with 10litres of engine, 12500kg unladen weight, 380+bhp and 57 LIVES ON BOARD is!!!

Mick

P.S could we just also clarify something a bus has 2 doors and standing is allowed, a COACH has one door and no standing!!  

You certainly dont work for National Coaches then. . ..  

Same as all those 70 mph trucks on the motorway...... try stopping one.

Exactly even with a retader, and a Telmar ( huge electro magnet that is wrapped around the propshaft and works REALLY well), and all the anti skid etc i dread ever having to do an emergency stop

you want try it with a bit that bends in middle and 30 tonnes behind you  that make your bum eat cloth i can tell you  

Aaaahhhhh.... The old arse cheeks/limpet impersonation....  been there, done that!  

[LaserLance]

My tuppence:

As a driver of a coach that weighs 12500kg unladen i can tell you that over 62mph -100kmph (which is what they are limited to) is bloody scary! - i will admit i have had a coach with a broken limiter - no fuse pulled just a bad earth, and i passed the 70mph mark - but as soon as i looked down i backed RIGHT off.
I can also tell you that from my experience it is quite easy to overtake a hgv with my coach i just have to plan ahead i.e how fast is that car coming in the next lane how fast am i gaining on the hgv and from what i remember hgv's are limited to 56mph (thats why few flash me back in ...jealousy   )
I regulary overtake cars aswell on dual carraigeway and single carraigeway - but i know my coaches limits and if the car is doing much more than 40mph i just back off.
Someone mentioned that 40mph on a single carraigeway road for hgv's - i wish they would do that, i am sick of sitting at my allowed 50mph to find some artic trying to find a place to pass me. or bully me into speeding up


Limiters arent dangerous -  having  NO limiter with 10litres of engine, 12500kg unladen weight, 380+bhp and 57 LIVES ON BOARD is!!!

Mick

P.S could we just also clarify something a bus has 2 doors and standing is allowed, a COACH has one door and no standing!!  

You certainly dont work for National Coaches then. . ..  

Same as all those 70 mph trucks on the motorway...... try stopping one.

Exactly even with a retader, and a Telmar ( huge electro magnet that is wrapped around the propshaft and works REALLY well), and all the anti skid etc i dread ever having to do an emergency stop

you want try it with a bit that bends in middle and 30 tonnes behind you  that make your bum eat cloth i can tell you  

I would love to if i had the cash - at least then my cargo wouldnt speak/whinge/complain to me lol

As i all ways said "coach drivers are glorified cattle transporters" Only joking wouldnt do your job for all the tea in china mate  

[Vamps]

My tuppence:

As a driver of a coach that weighs 12500kg unladen i can tell you that over 62mph -100kmph (which is what they are limited to) is bloody scary! - i will admit i have had a coach with a broken limiter - no fuse pulled just a bad earth, and i passed the 70mph mark - but as soon as i looked down i backed RIGHT off.
I can also tell you that from my experience it is quite easy to overtake a hgv with my coach i just have to plan ahead i.e how fast is that car coming in the next lane how fast am i gaining on the hgv and from what i remember hgv's are limited to 56mph (thats why few flash me back in ...jealousy   )
I regulary overtake cars aswell on dual carraigeway and single carraigeway - but i know my coaches limits and if the car is doing much more than 40mph i just back off.
Someone mentioned that 40mph on a single carraigeway road for hgv's - i wish they would do that, i am sick of sitting at my allowed 50mph to find some artic trying to find a place to pass me. or bully me into speeding up


Limiters arent dangerous -  having  NO limiter with 10litres of engine, 12500kg unladen weight, 380+bhp and 57 LIVES ON BOARD is!!!

Mick

P.S could we just also clarify something a bus has 2 doors and standing is allowed, a COACH has one door and no standing!!  

You certainly dont work for National Coaches then. . ..  

Same as all those 70 mph trucks on the motorway...... try stopping one.

Exactly even with a retader, and a Telmar ( huge electro magnet that is wrapped around the propshaft and works REALLY well), and all the anti skid etc i dread ever having to do an emergency stop

you want try it with a bit that bends in middle and 30 tonnes behind you  that make your bum eat cloth i can tell you  

I would love to if i had the cash - at least then my cargo wouldnt speak/whinge/complain to me lol

As i all ways said "coach drivers are glorified cattle transporters" Only joking wouldnt do your job for all the tea in china mate  

At least the load gets on and off itself........

[LaserLance]

At least the load gets on and off itself........  
Very true .... but then i only have to open back doors and reverse it on to the bank job done ,then put me feet up whilst they unload it   containers i love them  8-) 8-)

[Vamps]

At least the load gets on and off itself........  
Very true .... but then i only have to open back doors and reverse it on to the bank job done ,then put me feet up whilst they unload it   containers i love them  8-) 8-)

I see your point.........

[LaserLance]

At least the load gets on and off itself........  
Very true .... but then i only have to open back doors and reverse it on to the bank job done ,then put me feet up whilst they unload it   containers i love them  8-) 8-)

I see your point.........

Another good thing is if i ask nicely they usaully give me a sample of the goods   grapes,melons,oranges,apples,bananas :yperks off the job i suppose

[tyreburner]

My tuppence:

As a driver of a coach that weighs 12500kg unladen i can tell you that over 62mph -100kmph (which is what they are limited to) is bloody scary! - i will admit i have had a coach with a broken limiter - no fuse pulled just a bad earth, and i passed the 70mph mark - but as soon as i looked down i backed RIGHT off.
I can also tell you that from my experience it is quite easy to overtake a hgv with my coach i just have to plan ahead i.e how fast is that car coming in the next lane how fast am i gaining on the hgv and from what i remember hgv's are limited to 56mph (thats why few flash me back in ...jealousy   )
I regulary overtake cars aswell on dual carraigeway and single carraigeway - but i know my coaches limits and if the car is doing much more than 40mph i just back off.
Someone mentioned that 40mph on a single carraigeway road for hgv's - i wish they would do that, i am sick of sitting at my allowed 50mph to find some artic trying to find a place to pass me. or bully me into speeding up


Limiters arent dangerous -  having  NO limiter with 10litres of engine, 12500kg unladen weight, 380+bhp and 57 LIVES ON BOARD is!!!

Mick

P.S could we just also clarify something a bus has 2 doors and standing is allowed, a COACH has one door and no standing!!  

You certainly dont work for National Coaches then. . ..  

Same as all those 70 mph trucks on the motorway...... try stopping one.

Exactly even with a retader, and a Telmar ( huge electro magnet that is wrapped around the propshaft and works REALLY well), and all the anti skid etc i dread ever having to do an emergency stop

you want try it with a bit that bends in middle and 30 tonnes behind you  that make your bum eat cloth i can tell you  

I would love to if i had the cash - at least then my cargo wouldnt speak/whinge/complain to me lol

As i all ways said "coach drivers are glorified cattle transporters" Only joking wouldnt do your job for all the tea in china mate  

Bet cattle transporters have to clean less sh**e up lol, i only did it cause it was free(stagecoach) and every day i curse them for helping me pass my test, was much happier when i was a 7.5 tonne driver