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[Nickbat]

if you can find a bnp rulebook,only issued to members apparantly

Aha! Good point.

[albitz]

Just been thinking a bit more about this Nick,if it is true wouldnt they have been prosecuted for race hate type crimes or similar? would they be allowed to broadcast on mainstream channels etc? not sure about it tbh. :-/

Hmm, Farage is no dope. It's a very straightforward claim. Either Article 2 does preclude Blacks and Asians or it doesn't. If it doesn't, it would be a might y big porky to tell a week before the elections. :-/

True,I,m quite curious,would be interesting to know for sure. :-/

[Nickbat]

Just been thinking a bit more about this Nick,if it is true wouldnt they have been prosecuted for race hate type crimes or similar? would they be allowed to broadcast on mainstream channels etc? not sure about it tbh. :-/

Hmm, Farage is no dope. It's a very straightforward claim. Either Article 2 does preclude Blacks and Asians or it doesn't. If it doesn't, it would be a might y big porky to tell a week before the elections. :-/

True,I,m quite curious,would be interesting to know for sure. :-/

Yes, Albs, me too. It makes a big difference (not that they would have got my vote anyway), but it is important to know if you're discussing politics.  

[sassanach]

well like you when i heard it on question time i "googled" it  and came up with zilch

[MikeDundee]

Well I have decided that I may not vote at all now ...I might just go for a pint instead

[Banjax]

Just been thinking a bit more about this Nick,if it is true wouldnt they have been prosecuted for race hate type crimes or similar? would they be allowed to broadcast on mainstream channels etc? not sure about it tbh. :-/

Hmm, Farage is no dope. It's a very straightforward claim. Either Article 2 does preclude Blacks and Asians or it doesn't. If it doesn't, it would be a might y big porky to tell a week before the elections. :-/

True,I,m quite curious,would be interesting to know for sure. :-/

Yes, Albs, me too. It makes a big difference (not that they would have got my vote anyway), but it is important to know if you're discussing politics.  

They requires that all members must be members of the "Indigenous Caucasian" racial group. The party does not regard non-white people as being ethnically British, even if they have been born in the UK and are naturalised British citizens.

Whites only, (sorry Gurkhas - wrong colour chaps)

they really are a bunch of nazis i'm afraid whether people have to pretend they're not to stomach voting for them is a matter for their conscience 

[Dave-C]

Vote [size=18]KEELEY HAWES [/size]I tell you !
 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Just been thinking a bit more about this Nick,if it is true wouldnt they have been prosecuted for race hate type crimes or similar? would they be allowed to broadcast on mainstream channels etc? not sure about it tbh. :-/

Hmm, Farage is no dope. It's a very straightforward claim. Either Article 2 does preclude Blacks and Asians or it doesn't. If it doesn't, it would be a might y big porky to tell a week before the elections. :-/

True,I,m quite curious,would be interesting to know for sure. :-/

Yes, Albs, me too. It makes a big difference (not that they would have got my vote anyway), but it is important to know if you're discussing politics.  

They requires that all members must be members of the "Indigenous Caucasian" racial group. The party does not regard non-white people as being ethnically British, even if they have been born in the UK and are naturalised British citizens.

Whites only, (sorry Gurkhas - wrong colour chaps)

they really are a bunch of nazis i'm afraid whether people have to pretend they're not to stomach voting for them is a matter for their conscience 

Exactly, and that is why I was so vocal earlier in this thread!

Definition of racism: 
"(Belief in, adherence to, or advocacy of) the theory that all members of each race possess characteristicts, abilities, qualities, etc, specific to that race, esp. distinguishing it as inferior or superior to another race or races; prejudice, descrimination, or antagonism based on this" Shorter Oxford English Dictionary Volume II Oxford University Press (2007)

The BNP don't fit this with their policies?  They don't deny the Holocaust?

PS My families background, on both parents side, was Jewish.   I vow never again! 

.....and if you want some more information, although I accept biased but quoting fact, then look at this site:

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/the-real-bnp/Profile-of-Nick-Griffin.php

 

If you can, read Hitler's Mein Kampf and spot the similar themes!

[feeutfo]

i sense a disturbance on the " Dark Side"...? :-)

[Lizzie_Zoom]

..........and to help Mein Kampf is on the internet:

http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/

Ignore the rantings about the Versailles Treaty, the 'November criminals' and all things unique to the German situation then (my copy1939) and compare the anti foreigner, anti communist, anti semitic, anti everything non-German stance.   The message was still often hidden however on what was to come, as is the message of the BNP.  Don't forget the image portrayed of Hitler in the mid 1930s was of a peace loving, very reasonable man!  Then the mask slipped in 1939.

[theowletman]

And there we have it finally.
There is no middle ground it seems, from labour to Nazi just like that?

Unfortunately yes - none of the main 3 parties have come up with a workable answer to the problems that arise from mass, unchecked immigration. An Australian points type system may work in Oz, but our political leaders in the UK haven't got the balls to do it here. Immigration is not the only issue at the moment, Labour have really made a mess of the UK in many areas, I don't know what the answers are but in my opinion Labour don't have the answers either. I say again, the BNP are winning votes because they are saying what people want to hear ( all parties do the same by the way ) and then don't carry out their promises, will the BNP be any different, could they actually form a government? The British sense of fair play and tolerance will not allow the BNP to make any serious in-roads, but we all have our limits, and the current government have used up all of their " Get out of jail free cards ". The BNP's gains ( if any ) should be a massive wake up call to whichever party is elected, that's assuming we are allowed an election.

[theowletman]

Frankly I have difficulty believing some of what's written here.

The hatred piled on the BNP by some is the same as the hatred piled on foreigners by the BNP. The BNP says that foreigners are a threat, whilst others say that the BNP is a threat. The common denominator is, sadly, hatred.

As I said earlier on here, the Nazis were national socialists and were united by Hitler through hatred of Jews, Gypsies and anyone considered non-Ayrian. It is simply bonkers to equate the BNP with gas chambers and the like. Yes, their policies are not supported by me, but I can quite understand why they attract support. The non-thinking politically-unmotivated classes are attracted by the prospect of a return to a Great Britain. Intrinsically, there's no harm in that, since a patriotic nation will work harder for the common good. The mainstream parties and the liberal elite have done their utmost to belittle the UK and its people and make them subservient to the EU. A nation needs common aspirations, so that's that's what they look for in these difficult times.

The BNP's policies of repatriation are wrong for a variety of reasons, but no one should be under any illusion that immigration is not a major issue amongst large swathes of the electorate. It has been wrongly shunned by all the mainstream parties and that has left a void, which the BNP are happy to fill, albeit with wrong policies.

The upcoming elections are mainly for MEPs (with some shire council elections as well). The BNP will not be elected in any numbers great enough to implement national policies, so all this talk of the UK turning into a clone of Nazi Germany is total hogwash. What a vote for a minor party will do, however, is to send a very strong signal to the mainstream political classes that a sea change is needed in British politics. It is now up to the three major parties to win back the disaffected voters and that will require, amongst other things, addressing the issue of immigration. They will not do that by merely slagging off the BNP, indeed they are likely to increase the BNP support. The political bile must cease, in order that we can have rational discussion about immigration, the EU and so on.

Within human groupings, people from other groups are usually welcomed, or at least tolerated, until such a situation occurs when the original group feels threatened or disadvantaged by the scale of the influx. It may not always be rational, but that it is a characteristic of human nature and to deny it is a big mistake.         

Hear Hear!!!!!! Well said.

[crazyjoetavola]

..........and to help Mein Kampf is on the internet:

http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/

Ignore the rantings about the Versailles Treaty, the 'November criminals' and all things unique to the German situation then (my copy1939) and compare the anti foreigner, anti communist, anti semitic, anti everything non-German stance.   The message was still often hidden however on what was to come, as is the message of the BNP.  Don't forget the image portrayed of Hitler in the mid 1930s was of a peace loving, very reasonable man!  Then the mask slipped in 1939.

As it always does Ms Zoom and the evidence can be found littering recent history.

[LaserLance]

Personnally I dont think I will vote this time, yes it might seem wrong but my opinion off polititons is very low .I will admit that ive never really had much time for them as they all seem to say the things that they think we want to hear, but when push comes to shove they all tow the party line and trot out all the platitudes in the world.The classic example being the death penalty for certain crimes , I bet if you put a poll amongst the  voters to return it .a lot would want it back but the elected members start on about oh we cant do this as its against EU policy and will contravine the human rights of the offenders and a host of other excuses to boot. Sorry that is a bit of a simplistic view ,amongst my circle of work colleagues (truck drivers) was a unriten rule of "no  politics or religon"
Ps some one put a comment about the situation in Patras , Greece  I can assure you its nothing new been like that for the last 15 -20 years it was going on when i used to drive to greece all those years ago

[Del Boy]

To be honest BNP or UKIP are getting my vote