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[JamesV6CDX]

A police officer was sacked for BNP membership...

http://www.lep.co.uk/merseyside/Police-officer-sacked-in-BNP.5096934.jp

I don't know much about the BNP - neither do I wish to - but - they sound pretty dangerous to me!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

A police officer was sacked for BNP membership...

http://www.lep.co.uk/merseyside/Police-officer-sacked-in-BNP.5096934.jp

I don't know much about the BNP - neither do I wish to - but - they sound pretty dangerous to me!

They could be very dangerous if we let them in.  Like the Nazis they will suck good meaning people in to their policies, that have hidden scripts, then once in power destroy the opposition and democracy to put Great Britain through the living hell that the people of Germany went through.

[crazyjoetavola]

All i'm saying is. They'll be getting my vote

And my vote as well for MEP, to all the doubters could I suggest you actually read the BNP manifesto. And then make your comments. I am not a fascist nor a racist.
My vote for local elections went to just the opposition in my local area. And I have voted already by post.

I am just about thankful we still have the right to vote for who as individuals we wish to vote for.

I will say no more

I have and it reads along the same lines as the Nazi Party Manifesto of the early 1930s.  All very reasonable, all very patriotic and straight forward.  The BNP, like the Nazi manifesto never explains what comes next; what happens after the first "foreigners" are ejected; what happens when the military are built up enough to "protect the fatherland"...sorry "motherland" as the BNP put it, or what happens when the "fatherland", sorry there I go again, "motherland" requires her interests to expand to feed her ambitions and losses patience will those who democratically object?  Well, you just dismantle the democracy that has put you into power to try and ensure no oppostion can ever exist again!

Cannot happen, well please read German history after 30th January 1933.  

All very reasonable, all very patriotic and straight forward

.......that reminds of the beginnings of certain activity in Northern Ireland in the '70s.  A particular individual rose to promenance as the leader of a right wing   group dissatisfied with the then situation.  This person along with others organised an industrial strike which all but ran out of control. 

On one occasion, and on camera, he was answering a reporters question on his apparently pivitol role in the proceedings.  He stated with much candor that although he was poorly educated he held a lot of power.

Those comments were representative of the general thought pattern formulated by individuals of similar disposition.  It did the province little good - being responsible for decades of truncated thought, intolerance, downright irresponsibility, wasted opportunity and lost lives

That's why we need politically mature canditates who can embrace ideas that reflect the vast array of opinion which now abounds in this country

[Darth Loo-knee]

Lizzie you seem hell bent on getting everyone to agree with you 
We are entitled to our own opinion be it someone voting Labour, Con, Lib, BNP or the Loo-knee Party

[mantahatch]

All i'm saying is. They'll be getting my vote

And my vote as well for MEP, to all the doubters could I suggest you actually read the BNP manifesto. And then make your comments. I am not a fascist nor a racist.
My vote for local elections went to just the opposition in my local area. And I have voted already by post.

I am just about thankful we still have the right to vote for who as individuals we wish to vote for.

I will say no more

I have and it reads along the same lines as the Nazi Party Manifesto of the early 1930s.  All very reasonable, all very patriotic and straight forward.  The BNP, like the Nazi manifesto never explains what comes next; what happens after the first "foreigners" are ejected; what happens when the military are built up enough to "protect the fatherland"...sorry "motherland" as the BNP put it, or what happens when the "fatherland", sorry there I go again, "motherland" requires her interests to expand to feed her ambitions and losses patience will those who democratically object?  Well, you just dismantle the democracy that has put you into power to try and ensure no oppostion can ever exist again!

Cannot happen, well please read German history after 30th January 1933.  

Sorry Lizzie, for the first time I find myself disagreeing with you. When I read the manifesto, it made no mention of "ejecting" anyone. It did say it would offer a financial incentive for some people to leave.

Could the UK nowadays really have any ambitions under any party, to try and rule the world ?. Somehow I doubt it, and if europe did not end any aspirations we may have I am sure the usa would.

As for the same happening here as once happened in Germany, I think the population of europe in general is far to intelligent to let that happen.

Sorry for disagreeing with you. 

Mike

[crazyjoetavola]

Lizzie you seem hell bent on getting everyone to agree with you 
We are entitled to our own opinion be it someone voting Labour, Con, Lib, BNP or the Loo-knee Party

I might well go there my liege

[Lizzie_Zoom]

All i'm saying is. They'll be getting my vote

And my vote as well for MEP, to all the doubters could I suggest you actually read the BNP manifesto. And then make your comments. I am not a fascist nor a racist.
My vote for local elections went to just the opposition in my local area. And I have voted already by post.

I am just about thankful we still have the right to vote for who as individuals we wish to vote for.

I will say no more

I have and it reads along the same lines as the Nazi Party Manifesto of the early 1930s.  All very reasonable, all very patriotic and straight forward.  The BNP, like the Nazi manifesto never explains what comes next; what happens after the first "foreigners" are ejected; what happens when the military are built up enough to "protect the fatherland"...sorry "motherland" as the BNP put it, or what happens when the "fatherland", sorry there I go again, "motherland" requires her interests to expand to feed her ambitions and losses patience will those who democratically object?  Well, you just dismantle the democracy that has put you into power to try and ensure no opposition can ever exist again!

Cannot happen, well please read German history after 30th January 1933.  

All very reasonable, all very patriotic and straight forward

.......that reminds of the beginnings of certain activity in Northern Ireland in the '70s.  A particular individual rose to prominence as the leader of a right wing   group dissatisfied with the then situation.  This person along with others organised an industrial strike which all but ran out of control. 

On one occasion, and on camera, he was answering a reporters question on his apparently pivotal role in the proceedings.  He stated with much candor that although he was poorly educated he held a lot of power.

Those comments were representative of the general thought pattern formulated by individuals of similar disposition.  It did the province little good - being responsible for decades of truncated thought, intolerance, downright irresponsibility, wasted opportunity and lost lives

That's why we need politically mature candidates who can embrace ideas which reflect the vast array of opinion which now abounds in this country

Absolutely right Zulu, and we need those politicians that recognise Great Britain is an island that needs the trading markets of  Europe and the rest of the world.  No one can live in  isolation, as like many we require exports and imports, along with the financial service industry that is internationally based, to provide the British with an income, goods, services, and, oh yes BNP, food!   They talk about "self sufficiency" as though the British can pull up the draw bridge and all survive happily ever more.

As I said earlier in this or another thread, this is 2009, NOT 1889, where the British can live in "splendid isolation".

[crazyjoetavola]

All i'm saying is. They'll be getting my vote

And my vote as well for MEP, to all the doubters could I suggest you actually read the BNP manifesto. And then make your comments. I am not a fascist nor a racist.
My vote for local elections went to just the opposition in my local area. And I have voted already by post.

I am just about thankful we still have the right to vote for who as individuals we wish to vote for.

I will say no more

I have and it reads along the same lines as the Nazi Party Manifesto of the early 1930s.  All very reasonable, all very patriotic and straight forward.  The BNP, like the Nazi manifesto never explains what comes next; what happens after the first "foreigners" are ejected; what happens when the military are built up enough to "protect the fatherland"...sorry "motherland" as the BNP put it, or what happens when the "fatherland", sorry there I go again, "motherland" requires her interests to expand to feed her ambitions and losses patience will those who democratically object?  Well, you just dismantle the democracy that has put you into power to try and ensure no oppostion can ever exist again!

Cannot happen, well please read German history after 30th January 1933.  

Sorry Lizzie, for the first time I find myself disagreeing with you. When I read the manifesto, it made no mention of "ejecting" anyone. It did say it would offer a financial incentive for some people to leave.

Could the UK nowadays really have any ambitions under any party, to try and rule the world ?. Somehow I doubt it, and if europe did not end any aspirations we may have I am sure the usa would.

As for the same happening here as once happened in Germany, I think the population of europe in general is far to intelligent to let that happen.

Sorry for disagreeing with you. 

Mike

It did say it would offer a financial incentive for some people to leave.

....the important thing to consider is, Mike, what would happen if that financial inducement were to be rejected? :-/ :-/

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Lizzie you seem hell bent on getting everyone to agree with you 
We are entitled to our own opinion be it someone voting Labour, Con, Lib, BNP or the Loo-knee Party

No LK, everyone has the right to vote for who they like or no-one!!

I have the right to warn people of my fears based on history and contemporary fact.

If you expect me to agree with the BNP's message on an international forum, which preaches the message it does, then sorry I will not!

PS Or are the BNP representatives already trying to shut me up as the Nazis did to their vocal opposition???  

[JamesV6CDX]

I am sometimes pleased I know little about politics.... 

[crazyjoetavola]

A musical interlude to allow time for tea and reflection:



[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3orrFqFB2pw&feature=related[/media]

[Lizzie_Zoom]

All i'm saying is. They'll be getting my vote

And my vote as well for MEP, to all the doubters could I suggest you actually read the BNP manifesto. And then make your comments. I am not a fascist nor a racist.
My vote for local elections went to just the opposition in my local area. And I have voted already by post.

I am just about thankful we still have the right to vote for who as individuals we wish to vote for.

I will say no more

I have and it reads along the same lines as the Nazi Party Manifesto of the early 1930s.  All very reasonable, all very patriotic and straight forward.  The BNP, like the Nazi manifesto never explains what comes next; what happens after the first "foreigners" are ejected; what happens when the military are built up enough to "protect the fatherland"...sorry "motherland" as the BNP put it, or what happens when the "fatherland", sorry there I go again, "motherland" requires her interests to expand to feed her ambitions and losses patience will those who democratically object?  Well, you just dismantle the democracy that has put you into power to try and ensure no opposition can ever exist again!

Cannot happen, well please read German history after 30th January 1933.  

Sorry Lizzie, for the first time I find myself disagreeing with you. When I read the manifesto, it made no mention of "ejecting" anyone. It did say it would offer a financial incentive for some people to leave.

Could the UK nowadays really have any ambitions under any party, to try and rule the world ?. Somehow I doubt it, and if europe did not end any aspirations we may have I am sure the usa would.

As for the same happening here as once happened in Germany, I think the population of europe in general is far to intelligent to let that happen.

Sorry for disagreeing with you. 

Mike

Not at all Mike, I am glad you are debating this major issue and if the BNP is for you, or anyone else, fine.

Just remember please though how the German Jews, and any other "undesirables" were "encouraged" to leave their country.  Many people refused to go, or simply had no where to go, and we know what happened to them!

As said the BNP manifesto is full of apparently reasonable and patriotic rhetoric, but please everyone just consider the hidden messages and the eventual path of such policies.  That is all I am saying!

As for the "intelligence" of Europe; let's just say that is why it needs a strong British partner.  

[Darth Loo-knee]

Lizzie you seem hell bent on getting everyone to agree with you 
We are entitled to our own opinion be it someone voting Labour, Con, Lib, BNP or the Loo-knee Party

No LK, everyone has the right to vote for who they like or no-one!!

I have the right to warn people of my fears based on history and contemporary fact.

If you expect me to agree with the BNP's message on an international forum, which preaches the message it does, then sorry I will not!

PS Or are the BNP representatives already trying to shut me up as the Nazis did to their vocal opposition???  

You just seem to banging your gums alot about it.
Give it a rest 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Lizzie you seem hell bent on getting everyone to agree with you 
We are entitled to our own opinion be it someone voting Labour, Con, Lib, BNP or the Loo-knee Party

No LK, everyone has the right to vote for who they like or no-one!!

I have the right to warn people of my fears based on history and contemporary fact.

If you expect me to agree with the BNP's message on an international forum, which preaches the message it does, then sorry I will not!

PS Or are the BNP representatives already trying to shut me up as the Nazis did to their vocal opposition???  

You just seem to banging your gums alot about it.
Give it a rest 

No sorry LK I will not all the time the far right are rising in Great Britain and Europe, with certain comments being made in this thread I did not start;)   These are dangerous times and not a time for apathetic actions .

When the pro-BNP support stops on the forum then I will shut up! 8-) 8-) 8-)

[Darth Loo-knee]

Then you are as daft as them I'm afraid