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9/11 Conspiracy?
« on: 11 September 2010, 13:34:40 »

Personally I refuse to credit "Dubya" and his government and the FBI and the CIA and every maintenance worker, janitor and everyone in between with the necessary intelligence, discretion and cunning required to pull off such a dramatic "event" and have it kept a secret.

There are some intriguing aspects tho, like why were the only flights allowed out of the US later that day for the Bin Laden family to fly back to Saudi? Wouldn't the FBI quite liked to have spoken to them? 

Also, the towers did go down surprisingly quickly, in fact I'm surprised a couple of planes hitting them actually brought them down at all as skyscrapers are generally designed to withstand plane collisions (altho the design would be for planes that aren't deliberately travelling at full pelt....but still, the factor of safety inherent in the design, I would expect the towers to remain standing) :o
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« Reply #1 on: 11 September 2010, 14:08:47 »

Ive watched quite a few of the video"s shot of the towers and from different angles.

One video clearly shows one of the planes with a cylinder type object ejecting forward just before impact..im not talking about a photo-shopped ""Internet"" hype video either.

My personal belief is this....

Bush was involved..remember the look on his face when he was told,looked like he"d been told he"d lost a dime not an horrific terrorist attack.!

Second the way the building came down...imploded i believe its called,no way would a steel frame building come down nice and neat like that,just look at them huge water cooling towers they bring them down with near inch perfect...ok ok not inch perfect but i hope you understand when i say they bring them down in a very controlled manner.

Towers didn't topple over did they...steel buckles and twists..the towers come down...not over too the side but down straight.

The pentagon was hit by a plane...we all know how fragile a plane is,yet this punched a lovely clean hole through 5 walls was it ?

The trouble is as were a civilised people we think its impossible for anyone too be so evil too do this against there own people...and those who stand up and say this isnt terrorism from oversea"s its home grown is silenced with people mocking them.

Bush doesn't have a funny little tash....but i feel he and his government was and still is every bit dangerous as that Hitler fella.!
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« Reply #2 on: 11 September 2010, 14:25:51 »

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Ive watched quite a few of the video"s shot of the towers and from different angles.

One video clearly shows one of the planes with a cylinder type object ejecting forward just before impact..im not talking about a photo-shopped ""Internet"" hype video either.

My personal belief is this....

Bush was involved..remember the look on his face when he was told,looked like he"d been told he"d lost a dime not an horrific terrorist attack.!

Second the way the building came down...imploded i believe its called,no way would a steel frame building come down nice and neat like that,just look at them huge water cooling towers they bring them down with near inch perfect...ok ok not inch perfect but i hope you understand when i say they bring them down in a very controlled manner.

Towers didn't topple over did they...steel buckles and twists..the towers come down...not over too the side but down straight.

The pentagon was hit by a plane...we all know how fragile a plane is,yet this punched a lovely clean hole through 5 walls was it ?

The trouble is as were a civilised people we think its impossible for anyone too be so evil too do this against there own people...and those who stand up and say this isnt terrorism from oversea"s its home grown is silenced with people mocking them.

Bush doesn't have a funny little tash....but i feel he and his government was and still is every bit dangerous as that Hitler fella.!

The evidence of sagging floors and consequent imploding columns is plain.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/cons-flash.html

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« Reply #3 on: 11 September 2010, 14:31:26 »

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Ive watched quite a few of the video"s shot of the towers and from different angles.

One video clearly shows one of the planes with a cylinder type object ejecting forward just before impact..im not talking about a photo-shopped ""Internet"" hype video either.

My personal belief is this....

Bush was involved..remember the look on his face when he was told,looked like he"d been told he"d lost a dime not an horrific terrorist attack.!

Second the way the building came down...imploded i believe its called,no way would a steel frame building come down nice and neat like that,just look at them huge water cooling towers they bring them down with near inch perfect...ok ok not inch perfect but i hope you understand when i say they bring them down in a very controlled manner.

Towers didn't topple over did they...steel buckles and twists..the towers come down...not over too the side but down straight.

The pentagon was hit by a plane...we all know how fragile a plane is,yet this punched a lovely clean hole through 5 walls was it ?

The trouble is as were a civilised people we think its impossible for anyone too be so evil too do this against there own people...and those who stand up and say this isnt terrorism from oversea"s its home grown is licensed with people mocking them.

Bush doesn't have a funny little tash....but i feel he and his government was and still is every bit dangerous as that Hitler fella.!


This subject has previously been done to death by documentaries, debates and published material.

What is know is that the Towers were not constructed in the usual manner.  Their design was revolutionary, with ALL main support columns forming the perimeter of each floor with beams linking them to the central core.  When the planes hit they burnt to very high temperatures - enough to heat the beams and perimeter columns enough for them to buckle, and then 'pop' off their individual hangers.  In both cases enough of these hangers were 'popped' for the floor to collapse onto the weakened floor below, this in turn couldn't take the weight and the two floors fell onto the next down, then down onto the next, and the next, and so on ever accelerating straight down through the whole building. 

We all saw the very real aircraft go in, we know they contained real people, and we understand they were killed in an horrendous collision and explosion in each building. 

We also know that senior demolition experts have stated it would have required an army of demolition men over days/weeks to drill and place demolition charges on each floor to manage any kind of deliberate demolition.  This would have involved all the people who worked in the Towers to have ignored all the turmoil, noise, and dust whilst these demolition men KNOWINGLY sowed the seeds for the killing of thousands of fellow human beings.  In a democractic society it would also have involved thousands of CIA, FBI, varous other government agencies, let alone senior politicians to have ignored what was KNOWINGLY going on, and play no part in stopping the MURDER of thousands of fellow human beings, possibly relations and friends included, not even leaking anything to the press!!

Sorry, but any conspiracy theory on this subject cannot be realistically supported by the evidence available, and how anyone who believes that such a horrendous crime could be perpetuated and kept secret by thousands, without many voices a very strong politically damaging protest in advance, let alone it all leaking out afterwards is beyond me.

My opinion is that is pure fantasy - and very insulting, damaging and hurtful fantasy to the Democractic United States of America, it's people, and the thousands of individuals, from many nations and of so many various religions, who perished, along with their still grieving relatives.

God Bless America, and the souls of the people who perished :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracy?
« Reply #4 on: 11 September 2010, 14:57:29 »

Im sorry Lizzie your feel my views are insulting...however there my opinions and they are what i feel is the truth,or at least near as the truth i can put into words.

What i feel is insulting is people thinking this was the work of a handfull of terrorists...

I mean no disrespect by this but i refuse too be a sheep.
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracy?
« Reply #5 on: 11 September 2010, 15:08:05 »

I love conspiracy nuts  :y
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« Reply #6 on: 11 September 2010, 15:11:37 »

I think this is one of those 'conspiracy' stories that will forever be one that has no 'defined answers' ever.

Unfortuantly, along with the JFK assasination, the 'Jack the Riper' murders, and countless others out there, the 9/11 event on that day will be one that will unfortunately end up as a footnote in history in time to come.  :-/
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracy?
« Reply #7 on: 11 September 2010, 15:14:34 »

Conspiracy nuts...tick

Alien Nut...Tick

Believe the world isnt a nice place...Tick

Thing is people knew the world was flat...wasn't any question of that,until one day opps we were wrong its round.

The twin towers was a terroist attack...Fact....just depends too be seen from which country.

Why do we so readily except Hitler was a mad man and killed without blinking yet that nice mr bush couldnt do such a terrible thing.

Take the blinkers off. :)
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracy?
« Reply #8 on: 11 September 2010, 15:19:19 »

I reckon when the full truth is revealed, it'll be far duller than any conspiracy theory, you're asking us to believe W had the world fooled into thinking he was an idiot....all part of his cunning plan to destroy the twin towers, fake an attack on the Pentagon (actually....where is the plane debris from that...?nevermind) and hence go into Iraq(?I know....Iraq??) that plan it's so riddled with flaws, misconceived, pie-in-the-sky, stupid, ridiculous, unbelievable that........wait a sec.....this man Bush must be an evil genius!!  ;D
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« Reply #9 on: 11 September 2010, 15:20:52 »

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Conspiracy nuts...tick

Alien Nut...Tick

Believe the world isnt a nice place...Tick

Thing is people knew the world was flat...wasn't any question of that,until one day opps we were wrong its round.

The twin towers was a terroist attack...Fact....just depends too be seen from which country.

Why do we so readily except Hitler was a mad man and killed without blinking yet that nice mr bush couldnt do such a terrible thing.

Take the blinkers off. :)


Just out of curiosity, Unicorn....where do you stand on the whole "Climate Change" debate.....'cos I have a hunch I know.... ::) :y
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« Reply #10 on: 11 September 2010, 15:24:02 »

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Conspiracy nuts...tick

Alien Nut...Tick

Believe the world isnt a nice place...Tick

Thing is people knew the world was flat...wasn't any question of that,until one day opps we were wrong its round.

The twin towers was a terroist attack...Fact....just depends too be seen from which country.

Why do we so readily except Hitler was a mad man and killed without blinking yet that nice mr bush couldnt do such a terrible thing.

Take the blinkers off. :)


It's Roswell......all over again man.... ::) ::) ;)
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« Reply #11 on: 11 September 2010, 15:25:21 »

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Conspiracy nuts...tick

Alien Nut...Tick

Believe the world isnt a nice place...Tick

Thing is people knew the world was flat...wasn't any question of that,until one day opps we were wrong its round.

The twin towers was a terroist attack...Fact....just depends too be seen from which country.

Why do we so readily except Hitler was a mad man and killed without blinking yet that nice mr bush couldnt do such a terrible thing.

Take the blinkers off. :)

Because the very big difference is that Hitler was a dictator, in a totalitarian state.  If you spoke up against what he was doing you were shot, or the very least hidden away in a concentration camp.

On the other hand Mr Bush was a democratically elected President, in a democracy where people, and the press, can freely speak up against what their leader is doing, can protest against it, even take legal action against the administration through the political opposition who can also freely do so.

Two completely different situations, and if you do not understand that then it may explain why you are so eager to support the theory that the US President, his advisers, all agency workers, the politicians of the opposition et al, were involved in mass conspiracy to murder.
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« Reply #12 on: 11 September 2010, 15:32:39 »

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Conspiracy nuts...tick

Alien Nut...Tick

Believe the world isnt a nice place...Tick

Thing is people knew the world was flat...wasn't any question of that,until one day opps we were wrong its round.

The twin towers was a terroist attack...Fact....just depends too be seen from which country.

Why do we so readily except Hitler was a mad man and killed without blinking yet that nice mr bush couldnt do such a terrible thing.

Take the blinkers off. :)

Because the very big difference is that Hitler was a dictator, in a totalitarian state.  If you spoke up against what he was doing you were shot, or the very least hidden away in a concentration camp.

On the other hand Mr Bush was a democratically elected President, in a democracy where people, and the press, can freely speak up against what their leader is doing, can protest against it, even take legal action against the administration through the political opposition who can also freely do so.

Two completely different situations, and if you do not understand that then it may explain why you are so eager to support the theory that the US President, his advisers, all agency workers, the politicians of the opposition et al, were involved in mass conspiracy to murder.



Was Hitler not originally elected by the German people in 1933 Lizzie?
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« Reply #13 on: 11 September 2010, 15:36:01 »

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Conspiracy nuts...tick

Alien Nut...Tick

Believe the world isnt a nice place...Tick

Thing is people knew the world was flat...wasn't any question of that,until one day opps we were wrong its round.

The twin towers was a terroist attack...Fact....just depends too be seen from which country.

Why do we so readily except Hitler was a mad man and killed without blinking yet that nice mr bush couldnt do such a terrible thing.

Take the blinkers off. :)

Because the very big difference is that Hitler was a dictator, in a totalitarian state.  If you spoke up against what he was doing you were shot, or the very least hidden away in a concentration camp.

On the other hand Mr Bush was a democratically elected President, in a democracy where people, and the press, can freely speak up against what their leader is doing, can protest against it, even take legal action against the administration through the political opposition who can also freely do so.

Two completely different situations, and if you do not understand that then it may explain why you are so eager to support the theory that the US President, his advisers, all agency workers, the politicians of the opposition et al, were involved in mass conspiracy to murder.



Was Hitler not originally elected by the German people in 1933 Lizzie?

and technically Bush wasn't  :o :y
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« Reply #14 on: 11 September 2010, 15:37:15 »

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Conspiracy nuts...tick

Alien Nut...Tick

Believe the world isnt a nice place...Tick

Thing is people knew the world was flat...wasn't any question of that,until one day opps we were wrong its round.

The twin towers was a terroist attack...Fact....just depends too be seen from which country.

Why do we so readily except Hitler was a mad man and killed without blinking yet that nice mr bush couldnt do such a terrible thing.

Take the blinkers off. :)

Because the very big difference is that Hitler was a dictator, in a totalitarian state.  If you spoke up against what he was doing you were shot, or the very least hidden away in a concentration camp.

On the other hand Mr Bush was a democratically elected President, in a democracy where people, and the press, can freely speak up against what their leader is doing, can protest against it, even take legal action against the administration through the political opposition who can also freely do so.

Two completely different situations, and if you do not understand that then it may explain why you are so eager to support the theory that the US President, his advisers, all agency workers, the politicians of the opposition et al, were involved in mass conspiracy to murder.



Was Hitler not originally elected by the German people in 1933 Lizzie?


He was Optimist, once he had destroyed the main oppostion, fooled President Hindenburg, and within the year he had dismantled the German democratic process
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