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[Lizzie_Zoom]

....................and still none of the conspiracy theorists can answer my point:

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We also know that senior demolition experts have stated it would have required an army of demolition men over days/weeks to drill and place demolition charges on each floor to manage any kind of deliberate demolition.  This would have involved all the people who worked in the Towers to have ignored all the turmoil, noise, and dust whilst these demolition men KNOWINGLY sowed the seeds for the killing of thousands of fellow human beings.  In a democractic society it would also have involved thousands of CIA, FBI, varous other government agencies, let alone senior politicians to have ignored what was KNOWINGLY going on, and play no part in stopping the MURDER of thousands of fellow human beings, possibly relations and friends included, not even leaking anything to the press!!
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How would have all those people, including all the emergency workers involved post attack, and including their relatives, to have been kept quiet for all these years, and for the years to come?  Why has not one claim, to my knowledge, have been made by even one person to have been involved and released to the main stream press eager for such money spinning stories? [size=24]"[/size]

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[Nickbat]

Was WTC 7 constructed in the same way then?

Without providing a link, as I'm getting weary of this now, I read earlier today that WT7 was an unorthodox design as it had a huge atrium (a fact for which I can vouch, since I was there in the late 1980s) and the columns had a very large floor area/column ratio, certainly non-standard. It is believed that this design may have contributed to the bulging and latter collapse.

[cem_devecioglu]

....................and still none of the conspiracy theorists can answer my point:

"

We also know that senior demolition experts have stated it would have required an army of demolition men over days/weeks to drill and place demolition charges on each floor to manage any kind of deliberate demolition. 

nope .. with new type of materials (if you check my links) not necessary to drill everywhere and use in every carrier column.. and their expertise can be discussed also

 This would have involved all the people who worked in the Towers to have ignored all the turmoil, noise, and dust whilst these demolition men KNOWINGLY sowed the seeds for the killing of thousands of fellow human beings. 

Lizzie, I'm sure you wont trade with Hitler during war when he was killing your soldiers but some do.. 



In a democractic society it would also have involved thousands of CIA, FBI, varous other government agencies, let alone senior politicians to have ignored what was KNOWINGLY going on,

yeah.. democracy.. remember Bush was elected by democracy 

and play no part in stopping the MURDER of thousands of fellow human beings, possibly relations and friends included,

keep in mind , no one knew until some clever people work on the reports and pictures and videos..

not even leaking anything to the press!!

nope.. not all of them.. although most of the media follow the trend some were alive..but these were limited of course..

and if nothing leak how I could send all those links and evidence


How would have all those people, including all the emergency workers involved post attack, and including their relatives, to have been kept quiet for all these years, and for the years to come? 


as I said not everyone kept quiet

 Why has not one claim,

there were claims but who answer and take responsibility ?


to my knowledge, have been made by even one person to have been involved and released to the main stream press eager for such money spinning stories? [size=24]"[/size]

!!!!!!!!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

....................and still none of the conspiracy theorists can answer my point:

"

We also know that senior demolition experts have stated it would have required an army of demolition men over days/weeks to drill and place demolition charges on each floor to manage any kind of deliberate demolition. 

nope .. with new type of materials (if you check my links) not necessary to drill everywhere and use in every carrier column.. and their expertise can be discussed also

 This would have involved all the people who worked in the Towers to have ignored all the turmoil, noise, and dust whilst these demolition men KNOWINGLY sowed the seeds for the killing of thousands of fellow human beings. 

Lizzie, I'm sure you wont trade with Hitler during war when he was killing your soldiers but some do.. 



In a democractic society it would also have involved thousands of CIA, FBI, varous other government agencies, let alone senior politicians to have ignored what was KNOWINGLY going on,

yeah.. democracy.. remember Bush was elected by democracy 

and play no part in stopping the MURDER of thousands of fellow human beings, possibly relations and friends included,

keep in mind , no one knew until some clever people work on the reports and pictures and videos..

not even leaking anything to the press!!

nope.. not all of them.. although most of the media follow the trend some were alive..but these were limited of course..

and if nothing leak how I could send all those links and evidence


How would have all those people, including all the emergency workers involved post attack, and including their relatives, to have been kept quiet for all these years, and for the years to come? 


as I said not everyone kept quiet

 Why has not one claim,

there were claims but who answer and take responsibility ?


to my knowledge, have been made by even one person to have been involved and released to the main stream press eager for such money spinning stories? [size=24]"[/size]

!!!!!!!!

I thought you were enjoying a football match Cem?

[jonnycool]

There is a rather interesting program on Sky at the moment, '9/11 Conspiracy Theories'.

I'm sorry, I'm no expert, but the conspiracy theorists just seem to be clutching at straws. It's very easy to say that something didn't happen as you saw it with your own eyes, but actually coming up with plausible theories instead of hysterical finger-pointing is laughable really.

However, I have an open mind and I accept that the conspiracy theory is not an impossibility, and we may be proved wrong one day.

But I don't think that's going to happen 

[cem_devecioglu]

....................and still none of the conspiracy theorists can answer my point:

"

We also know that senior demolition experts have stated it would have required an army of demolition men over days/weeks to drill and place demolition charges on each floor to manage any kind of deliberate demolition. 

nope .. with new type of materials (if you check my links) not necessary to drill everywhere and use in every carrier column.. and their expertise can be discussed also

 This would have involved all the people who worked in the Towers to have ignored all the turmoil, noise, and dust whilst these demolition men KNOWINGLY sowed the seeds for the killing of thousands of fellow human beings. 

Lizzie, I'm sure you wont trade with Hitler during war when he was killing your soldiers but some do.. 



In a democractic society it would also have involved thousands of CIA, FBI, varous other government agencies, let alone senior politicians to have ignored what was KNOWINGLY going on,

yeah.. democracy.. remember Bush was elected by democracy 

and play no part in stopping the MURDER of thousands of fellow human beings, possibly relations and friends included,

keep in mind , no one knew until some clever people work on the reports and pictures and videos..

not even leaking anything to the press!!

nope.. not all of them.. although most of the media follow the trend some were alive..but these were limited of course..

and if nothing leak how I could send all those links and evidence


How would have all those people, including all the emergency workers involved post attack, and including their relatives, to have been kept quiet for all these years, and for the years to come? 


as I said not everyone kept quiet

 Why has not one claim,

there were claims but who answer and take responsibility ?


to my knowledge, have been made by even one person to have been involved and released to the main stream press eager for such money spinning stories? [size=24]"[/size]

!!!!!!!!

I thought you were enjoying a football match Cem?

basketball.. we were ahead but we loose some players and game turned.. and as you can guess we are loosing..

not an equal war, black men vs white no chance :-/

[Turk]

Ok ok ive changed my mind....yes its so much more plausible that three terrorists hijacked three planes and flew them into well guarded American landmarks.

Defying all of america's intelligence services,dodging there massive air defence and then being careless and dropping a passport at ground zero...what a silly billy he was.

Well that's so much more believable.......

Plain fact people..this crime is such a hideous occurrence people just simply do not want too believe its possible.

Only in them there foreigner counties it happens...

Yep i can feel the change....Baaaa Baaaa Baaaaa

Just a quickie, but can you tell me exactly why it is impossible to find a passport in the debris?  :-?

Not doubting it's possible, but you have to admit that's rather corny amazing.  

 

[Nickbat]

Ok ok ive changed my mind....yes its so much more plausible that three terrorists hijacked three planes and flew them into well guarded American landmarks.

Defying all of america's intelligence services,dodging there massive air defence and then being careless and dropping a passport at ground zero...what a silly billy he was.

Well that's so much more believable.......

Plain fact people..this crime is such a hideous occurrence people just simply do not want too believe its possible.

Only in them there foreigner counties it happens...

Yep i can feel the change....Baaaa Baaaa Baaaaa

Just a quickie, but can you tell me exactly why it is impossible to find a passport in the debris?  :-?

Not doubting it's possible, but you have to admit that's rather corny amazing.  

 

I'm not amazed. Should I be?  :-?

[jerry]

OK, hands up everyone who has been watching "Zeitgeist" again

[Turk]

Ok ok ive changed my mind....yes its so much more plausible that three terrorists hijacked three planes and flew them into well guarded American landmarks.

Defying all of america's intelligence services,dodging there massive air defence and then being careless and dropping a passport at ground zero...what a silly billy he was.

Well that's so much more believable.......

Plain fact people..this crime is such a hideous occurrence people just simply do not want too believe its possible.

Only in them there foreigner counties it happens...

Yep i can feel the change....Baaaa Baaaa Baaaaa

Just a quickie, but can you tell me exactly why it is impossible to find a passport in the debris?  :-?

Not doubting it's possible, but you have to admit that's rather corny amazing.  

 

I'm not amazed. Should I be? :-?

Your climate change posts show you're not completely gullable, yet you mean to say you don't think it amazing they found such a cruicial, damning piece of evidence at all in that much rubble, let alone so soon after the incident.
I mean...WOW !!  After all, the 757 that hit The Pentagon vapourized completely !!! 
(Well, apart from one small but easily identifiable piece of wreckage, in the foreground of a rather professional looking photograph. ) http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.popularmechanics.com/cm/popularmechanics/images/UW/911-flight77-debris.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/debunking-911-myths-pentagon&usg=__dm189e9fTrHfXjsOWHxROwpVe9s=&h=496&w=630&sz=102&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=ygngTEGORZsvUM:&tbnh=122&tbnw=171&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dflight%2Bpentagon%2Btail%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1276%26bih%3D519%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=188&ei=AU-NTOmQGY-A4QbroZWfCg&oei=AU-NTOmQGY-A4QbroZWfCg&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:0&tx=120&ty=84

[jerry]

you know why these conspiracy theories abound? Because we never get told the truth and then movies like Zeitgeist come out and books by the likes of Michael Moore etc but who can blame them? The powers that be, the maybe not so mythical "men behind the curtain", they'll never tell us the whole truth and if anyone on here really does not believe that "black ops" exist then I think thats a bit naive. Its all about power at the end of the day and power is corrupting. Sadly its human nature. But "tthe truth is out there"-just dont expect to find it anytime soon.

[albitz]

Its not possible for either side of this debate to prove the other wrong. So may I suggest we move on PLEAZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Vamps]

Its not possible for either side of this debate to prove the other wrong. So may I suggest we move on PLEAZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

Bring back the Bus thread...........   Bring back any thread, even global warming...

[Turk]

Its not possible for either side of this debate to prove the other wrong. So may I suggest we move on PLEAZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

Following/contributing is not compulsory. 

[Amigo]

911? Sad as the losses are this is old hat & hardly worth a light now
   Besides what do you all have against Porsche?