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[tunnie]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12403466

Someone with sense at the top has finally accepted Symbian is shyte and needs to be dropped.

I don't think they have time to develop their own new O/S.

I think Microsoft should step in when they are on the brink, snap them up and have the their own manufacturing setup. Although that might annoy HTC!

[mathewst]

Symbian is shyte

Try using on windows mobile phones.
I've got both symbian an wm6.1  and symbian is bearable but win6.1 makes me want to break the phone every now and then

[Jimbob]

not suprised, few years ago I wouldn't consider anything but nokia....now I considered everything EXCEPT nokia

[tunnie]

Symbian is shyte

Try using on windows mobile phones.
I've got both symbian an wm6.1  and symbian is bearable but win6.1 makes me want to break the phone every now and then

Try some custom ROMs, standard ones are kak. On my old TyTnII Black Satin worked well:

http://ppc-resource.blogspot.com/2007/10/wm6-black-satin.html

[omegabsw]

not suprised, few years ago I wouldn't consider anything but nokia....now I considered everything EXCEPT nokia

LOL, same here.

I went right the way through the Nokia's for years right up to an X6, the browser on that was shocking.

I never considered a Blackberry before but I now have a Torch and its the best phone I have ever used.

[albitz]

God knows why you think they are "on the brink" their share price has risen 2% so far today.
Just over $43 billion market capitalisation - on the brink ?

[tunnie]

God knows why you think they are "on the brink" their share price has risen 2% so far today.
Just over $43 billion market capitalisation - on the brink ?

I did say when they are on the brink, which will happen unless drastic measures are taken.

[albitz]

The fundamentals dont suggest any reason why they should ever be on the brink in the foreseeable future. This announcement certainly wont cause it, if anything it has caused a positive reaction.

[tunnie]

Reactions, yeah, that will build them a new platform 

[albitz]

The point Im making Tunnie is - The serious players in the market, who will be buying/selling millions of Nokia shares daily, have studied all aspects of the company and at the present time, dont see any major problems with it. If they did the price would be tanking.Which is the scenario needed for it to reach the point of being - on the brink.
I would imagine a company of that size isnt going to stand or fall on the failure of one product. It could be that they are only now binning it because they know there is something better to replace it in the near future ?

[Lazydocker]

Nokia do far more than Mobile Phones Tunnie... It'll take much more than a crappy operating system to bring them down

[bluey]

True, some of their switches are real heavyweight stuff.  A while back they were almost the default option for firewall platforms, sold them all day long no worries.

[tunnie]

Nokia do far more than Mobile Phones Tunnie... It'll take much more than a crappy operating system to bring them down

Might bring it down enough for Microsoft to take it over, Mobile Manufacturing is something they need to stay in the game. Windows 7 looks like a good basis, if they ran their own hardware, puts them on more of level with Apple

[Lazydocker]

Nokia do far more than Mobile Phones Tunnie... It'll take much more than a crappy operating system to bring them down

Might bring it down enough for Microsoft to take it over, Mobile Manufacturing is something they need to stay in the game. Windows 7 looks like a good basis, if they ran their own hardware, puts them on more of level with Apple

Highly unlikely... Remember, it's only Symbian they're binning... Not all the handsets run it

And they are looking at running Android/Windows on their handsets instead

[aaronjb]

A bit of trawling shows that Nokia made ~€40,000m in sales in 2009, of which ~€27,600m were their mobile division, so it does (now) make up a significant proportion of their company income..

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/28/nokia-grows-profits-and-smartphone-share-in-q4/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/sep/10/nokia-profits-falling-explanation

I can't see even Microsoft dropping the cash necessary to buy the whole concern, though. It would cost them what.. €50-60bn right now? Their share price would have to drop through the floor - and despite current result trends, that doesn't seem to be happening.

Contrast their share activity after this announcement with the share price of the company I work for after we announced our last quarter results (which were good, just not as good as the street expected despite us making our own guidance) - we lost 30% of our share price in 30 minutes!