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[Lizzie_Zoom]

Interesting developments with the Libyan delegation to the United Nations requesting their intervention to stop the Libyan Government's actions against their people, and a no-flight zone to be set up across the country.

William Hague has also announced that information received suggests President Gaddafi is on his way to Venezuela.  Other reports have come in stating Libyan Air Force jets have landed in Malta.

Most commentators are now suggesting "Libya is imploding".

What interesting times!!

[TheBoy]

My guts are imploding today. Should that be front page news?

[cem_devecioglu]

upto now, I was in shock that all those countries and the sleeping beauties wake up suddenly..

after checking some news, I found who kicked their arse..

it seems like that uncle sam decided to redesign those countries again..   

[Varche]

upto now, I was in shock that all those countries and the sleeping beauties wake up suddenly..

after checking some news, I found who kicked their arse..

it seems like that uncle sam decided to redesign those countries again..   

Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

[albitz]

While its undoubtedly a good thing that people power is overthrowing the middle eastern dictators, I find it worrying that we dont hear much about credible oppositions who are ready, organised and capable of replacing them. If the countries involved have a power vacuum, they will be in a dangerous and volatile position.
Remember what happened in Iraq ofter Sadaam was ousted ? And that happened with huge numbers of western troops present in the country at the time.
It could all very easily go very Pete Tong indeed, but hopefully it wont. :-/

[cem_devecioglu]

While its undoubtedly a good thing that people power is overthrowing the middle eastern dictators, I find it worrying that we dont hear much about credible oppositions who are ready, organised and capable of replacing them. If the countries involved have a power vacuum, they will be in a dangerous and volatile position.

yes..

Remember what happened in Iraq ofter Sadaam was ousted ? And that happened with huge numbers of western troops present in the country at the time.
It could all very easily go very Pete Tong indeed,

yes..uncle sam dont care about what happens after, they have a mega plan of which still not clear to me .. :-/

 but hopefully it wont. :-/

[Lizzie_Zoom]

News now coming in of the Libyan Air Force bombing and strafing Tripoli!!

Many, many deaths!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

My guts are imploding today. Should that be front page news?

Being serious TB, I find it unfortunate you can put your guts in context of what is happening in Libya, and what could spread throughout that unfortunate part of the world!  Many people are already dead, with many more dying as I write

This DOES affect everyone of us!

[albitz]

Im not sure thats true Cem. For a long time the U.S has spent a lot of time/energy/money on trying to stabilise the middle East.
A stable region with the lower oil prices that would bring would solve a big headache for them, although Im sure they will excercise a certain amount of influence to try to ensure "western friendly" admimistrations. Which tbh, I think is fair enough, as long as they go about it in a reasonably fair and intelligent manner.
If most of the middle east ended up with sensible and democratic governments it weaken the position of the Iranian regime considerably, and that is probably the U.S/ western top priority in the region

[Dishevelled Den]

What interesting times!!

Interesting - but decidedly dangerous Lizzie.

Such instability, over a widespread section of this region, could have dire consequences for us all.

[cem_devecioglu]

Im not sure thats true Cem. For a long time the U.S has spent a lot of time/energy/money on trying to stabilise the middle East.

but which they succeeded the reverse

and a tip for you.. they are also strirring here in such an extent that they keep me in shock nearly everyday..


A stable region with the lower oil prices that would bring would solve a big headache for them,


hmmm..

lower oil prices ??  a country that oil cartels decide nearly for everything

stable middle east ?? a country thats weapon industries
are in control of every point..

nope..



although Im sure they will excercise a certain amount of influence to try to ensure "western friendly" admimistrations. Which tbh, I think is fair enough, as long as they go about it in a reasonably fair and intelligent manner.
If most of the middle east ended up with sensible and democratic governments it weaken the position of the Iranian regime considerably,

god knows what they have in mind.. but one of the reasons could well be iran however they have different priorities than we can imagine now... but future will show sooner or later..


 and that is probably the U.S/ western top priority in the region

[Lizzie_Zoom]

What interesting times!!

Interesting - but decidedly dangerous Lizzie.

Such instability, over a widespread section of this region, could have dire consequences for us all.

Oh yes Zulu (welcome back!! ) that is exactly what I was considering with my comments.  Any "interesting times" in history has usually resulted in severe consequences to us as a nation.  At the moment it is just the supply of fuel that could affect us; lets hope it does not eventually cost our blood!!

PS see my above post to TB

[cem_devecioglu]

What interesting times!!

Interesting - but decidedly dangerous Lizzie.

Such instability, over a widespread section of this region, could have dire consequences for us all.

Welcome back Zulu

and yes.. may have dangerous consequences.. and the first one with the probabilty to force all of us to park our miggies forever..

whatever it is, they take big risk..

[TheBoy]

My guts are imploding today. Should that be front page news?

Being serious TB, I find it unfortunate you can put your guts in context of what is happening in Libya, and what could spread throughout that unfortunate part of the world!  Many people are already dead, with many more dying as I write

This DOES affect everyone of us!

Nope, you completely missed the point

[Banjax]

While its undoubtedly a good thing that people power is overthrowing the middle eastern dictators, I find it worrying that we dont hear much about credible oppositions who are ready, organised and capable of replacing them. If the countries involved have a power vacuum, they will be in a dangerous and volatile position.
Remember what happened in Iraq ofter Sadaam was ousted ? And that happened with huge numbers of western troops present in the country at the time.
It could all very easily go very Pete Tong indeed, but hopefully it wont. :-/

thats a good point Albs, but the lack of opposition is purely due to the illegality of opposing most dictators - surely its better to let the chips fall where they may rather than try as we've constantly done in the past, to gerry-mander compliance - my gut feeling is Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, et al won't accept a military regime for long although a nutjob muslim power in Libya is a possibility - i say condemn the violence totally but stay out unless asked to intervene by the majority