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[Elite Pete]

isnt manual a second faster? i can live with .5 of a second, hell i can live with a second.

my problem is i have bought other cars and i nd up getting rid of them because i can feel the sluggishness of them and just end up driving my calibra again.

so i thought i would get something stylish (omega) but it has got to be around the same 0-60 otherwise i will just get frustrated and bored 

do you guys get much trouble driving in the snow?

A dead body in the boot helps with traction, failing that a bag of sand or cement 

[Webby the Bear]

as far as im aware the manual is 0.5 faster. but if you notice 0.5 seconds and that would  frustrate you i suggest you save up and get a veyron

yes mate pretty crap in the snow as rwd

[Miggylover]

In the real world you probably wont notice the difference between all the 2.5's as the weight difference isn't that much between the range, and will all feel a fair bit slower then you xe calibra anyway.  If your buying an omega then you might aswell get the best equipped one you can find IMO.

I honestly think you would be better off with a 3.0 too if your worried about it being quick enough for you, and when driven sensible the mpg figures are only marginally lower then the 2.5 as then engine doesn't have to work as hard anyway.

[Miggylover]

isnt manual a second faster? i can live with .5 of a second, hell i can live with a second.

my problem is i have bought other cars and i nd up getting rid of them because i can feel the sluggishness
 of them and just end up driving my calibra again.

so i thought i would get something stylish (omega) but it has got to be around the same 0-60 otherwise i will just get frustrated and bored 

do you guys get much trouble driving in the snow?

You also get slightly better mpg out the manual. 

[mr carl]

If you are genuinely interested in speed, WTF are you doing with an omega?

i dont need something esp fast, i just dont want anything slower.

[Webby the Bear]

well the omega should do you fine mate 

now for the 7000th manual vs auto debate   

[05omegav6]

i would love to have the 3.2 mv6, but i dont like getting raped at the petrol station

You'll need to buy petrol any way.

I have been called insane for running an ex plod 3.2 manual as a taxi.

BUT someone, (I think Taxi Driver :-/), recently posted that he was spending £260 ish on diesel every week. He drives a Fiat van (with windows).

I spend about the same on petrol, and I know who has more fun

[cem_devecioglu]

if you put 2 cars side by side, many parameters come into account aside from their extra weights

if manual -the condition of pressure plate
if auto - condition of pump , torque converter etc etc

(I assume you wont race a manual with auto  )

condition of sparks
condition of engine valves,
condition of cylinder rings
condition of air filter
condition of oil
and..

tires .. even tires can make  a lot of difference depending on their condition and rubber compound


so even a lighter gls with bad parameters can loose against a heavier elite..

even try racing the same car with exact same weight and engine condition and with snow tires to a car with summer tires you will see difference..

[mr carl]

if you put 2 cars side by side, many parameters come into account aside from their extra weights

if manual -the condition of pressure plate
if auto - condition of pump , torque converter etc etc

(I assume you wont race a manual with auto  )

condition of sparks
condition of engine valves,
condition of cylinder rings
condition of air filter
condition of oil
and..

tires .. even tires can make  a lot of difference depending on their condition and rubber compound


so even a lighter gls with bad parameters can loose against a heavier elite..

even try racing the same car with exact same weight and engine condition and with snow tires to a car with summer tires you will see difference..

all this is pretty much common knollage, i just wanted to know which was the best to go for 

[mantahatch]

if you put 2 cars side by side, many parameters come into account aside from their extra weights

if manual -the condition of pressure plate
if auto - condition of pump , torque converter etc etc

(I assume you wont race a manual with auto  )

condition of sparks
condition of engine valves,
condition of cylinder rings
condition of air filter
condition of oil
and..

tires .. even tires can make  a lot of difference depending on their condition and rubber compound


so even a lighter gls with bad parameters can loose against a heavier elite..

even try racing the same car with exact same weight and engine condition and with snow tires to a car with summer tires you will see difference..

all this is pretty much common knollage, i just wanted to know which was the best to go for 

The best car is the one in the best condition, Omega's are knocking on a bit but there are plenty to choose from still. If it looks tired and unloved then walk away. I will still have my old 96 car back again anyday over the one I have now.

[Martin_1962]

Smaller V6s also work well with 3.0 cams.

Even the autos

My 2.6 is one of the faster 2.6 autos, Matt has a quick 2.5 estate auto as well I think and Mike Dundee has a quick 2.6 manual.

[Vamps]

I see all different variants of 2.5 v6's but which model is the quickest?

Also do different models come with different gadgets, if so what type...trip computer etc etc.....?

An MX5 driven by Pete, with the exception of 1 oof driver....

[tunnie]

if you put 2 cars side by side, many parameters come into account aside from their extra weights

if manual -the condition of pressure plate
if auto - condition of pump , torque converter etc etc

(I assume you wont race a manual with auto  )

condition of sparks
condition of engine valves,
condition of cylinder rings
condition of air filter
condition of oil
and..

tires .. even tires can make  a lot of difference depending on their condition and rubber compound


so even a lighter gls with bad parameters can loose against a heavier elite..

even try racing the same car with exact same weight and engine condition and with snow tires to a car with summer tires you will see difference..

Nice to see someone agree's with me cem 

[Amigo]

Oh wow, listen to you lot. When i first joined OOF i had my green 2.5 CD manual that is still running well today. I then bought the Beastie, a 3.0 MV6 from Hotel 21. At first  could hardly detect any gain in power/speed..that is until on the A1 @ Berwick i went to overtake one car (as i would have done in the 2.5) but once on the go she popped all 4 cars in the same space. The 3.0 has dollops more mid range grunt over the 2.5 ie 50 to 80 times & longer legs ie 60 in 2nd, 100 in 3rd before touching the red plus the Mv6's handle better given the suspension & tyre profile.

   Believe me i've owned both. Guy. 8-)

[omegadan67]

how many different types are there?

cdx
gls
cd
tdcx
td elite

am i missing any? so the gls is the quickest?

gls
cd
cdx
elite
mv6
sport
td gls
td cd
td cdx
td elite

then manuels and autos takes it to 20 and thats without adding the estates up