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Re: Off the clock
« Reply #30 on: 13 May 2010, 23:13:23 »

140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly.  It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.

Aerodynamics are the problem.  An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.

Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways.  :y
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Re: Off the clock
« Reply #31 on: 13 May 2010, 23:18:08 »

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140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly.  It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.

Aerodynamics are the problem.  An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.

Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways.  :y
M9 motorway is pretty flat....

As said, speed attained, 4 serving plod as witnesses, and not just for a few hundred yards....

And, before the great unwashed jump upon the bandwaggon shrieking 'what about the children', this took place circa 1992, long before it was discovered that speed kills, rather than the sudden stop.......
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Re: Off the clock
« Reply #32 on: 13 May 2010, 23:21:24 »

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140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly.  It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.

Aerodynamics are the problem.  An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.

Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways.  :y
M9 motorway is pretty flat....

As said, speed attained, 4 serving plod as witnesses, and not just for a few hundred yards....

And, before the great unwashed jump upon the bandwaggon shrieking 'what about the children', this took place circa 1992, long before it was discovered that speed kills, rather than the sudden stop.......

I recall an episode of Police Camera Action.  A plod Senny was chasing a 911.  The recorded speed was 166 in the bottom right hand corner of the screen.

Definitely possible.

Some cars are 'quicker' than others straight from the production line..... after a few years of use, some cars are much better than their identical siblings.  Just the way it goes.
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Re: Off the clock
« Reply #33 on: 13 May 2010, 23:26:52 »

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possibly they have a lower geared diff fitted. Exagerates the speedo reading and will max out quicker, i suspect its a job to get a stock auto 3.2 over 135 on any stretch shorter than the entire length of the m4...certainly would take a while anyway, plenty room for lower gearing i guess, if you can bare the extra revs and fuel bills.


Really not sure about getting involved in this one, being on an open forum. I resisted as long as I could but very surprised at the above remark (no offence intended). The Road Angel, which reads three miles per hour slower than the dash speedo shows 145mph, on a private road of course. The M40 chalk hills would give you at least 8 mph more but it would be illegal. This is in a standard 2003 3.2 Elite and not just me bigging it up.
This is all hyperthetical of course. We all know its not big and its not clever.
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Re: Off the clock
« Reply #34 on: 13 May 2010, 23:29:28 »

Someone better in the know correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the 3.0 have a better top end than the 3.2?
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« Reply #35 on: 13 May 2010, 23:31:43 »

yep. off the production line cars very. different end of the scale, some escort vans of the diesel variety were quicker than others. all set up the same apparently. :-?
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Re: Off the clock
« Reply #36 on: 13 May 2010, 23:40:30 »

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Someone better in the know correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the 3.0 have a better top end than the 3.2?

You are right in the top speed comment, 3.0 manual saloon book speed 151mph compared to 3.2 auto top speed of 149mph. Its a manual auto thing. 3.2 is meant to have slightly more torque, but then I would say that wouldn't I. There is going to be good and bad in both camps.
I feel this could be a long one, with the words "where permitted" cropping up a lot. ;)
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« Reply #37 on: 13 May 2010, 23:42:15 »

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Someone better in the know correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the 3.0 have a better top end than the 3.2?
a certain admin tells me his 3.0 is quicker in all departments, when its not grumpy that is.

Tbh, its not the first time i've heard similar.
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« Reply #38 on: 14 May 2010, 00:22:56 »

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possibly they have a lower geared diff fitted. Exagerates the speedo reading and will max out quicker, i suspect its a job to get a stock auto 3.2 over 135 on any stretch shorter than the entire length of the m4...certainly would take a while anyway, plenty room for lower gearing i guess, if you can bare the extra revs and fuel bills.

you could "in theory ;)" get a 3.2 omega well over 135 and it wouldnt take miles of road either. wether health and safety is breeched is another question!
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Re: Off the clock
« Reply #39 on: 14 May 2010, 00:24:37 »

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140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly.  It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.

Aerodynamics are the problem.  An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.

Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways.  :y

I had my Elite to 140mph uphill one night, only backed off for a bend.  Plus it was pi55ing it down.  Still had plenty to go.  Same stretch of road the GLS has hit 120 mph in 3rd. and in the rain.
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« Reply #40 on: 14 May 2010, 00:30:11 »

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140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly.  It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.

Aerodynamics are the problem.  An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.

Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways.  :y

I had my Elite to 140mph uphill one night, only backed off for a bend.  Plus it was pi55ing it down.  Still had plenty to go.  Same stretch of road the GLS has hit 120 mph in 3rd. and in the rain.

and then you woke up. (just covering you back) ::)
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Re: Off the clock
« Reply #41 on: 14 May 2010, 00:35:45 »

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140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly.  It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.

Aerodynamics are the problem.  An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.

Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways.  :y

I had my Elite to 140mph uphill one night, only backed off for a bend.  Plus it was pi55ing it down.  Still had plenty to go.  Same stretch of road the GLS has hit 120 mph in 3rd. and in the rain.

and then you woke up. (just covering you back) ::)

Well that was the indicated speed at least, the stretch of road was only 300ft, just measured it on google earth.  The wheelspin sounded well between the 2 walls though, was like going through a tunnel.  ::)
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Re: Off the clock
« Reply #42 on: 14 May 2010, 06:51:23 »

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140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly.  It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.

Aerodynamics are the problem.  An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.

Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways.  :y


Ironically, the good aerodynamics of the Omega were what prompted Ole Ringstad to create his RATS 200+mph Omega.
In his interview in Evo mag he said,

"Not many people realise the Omega has a very low drag co-efficient [0.28Cd], making it ideal for big speeds while remaining comfortable. And for me it isn’t a car if you have to trailer it, so I’ve driven it here and I’ll drive it home again.’

Good old boy. :y
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Re: Off the clock
« Reply #43 on: 14 May 2010, 07:46:55 »

Ive seen 150 in my 3.0 auto estate on a private road
and 149 in her 3.0 manual estate on the same private road.

I would say both had a little more to give, but would have taken time and space I didnt have.

I dont think any retail model is going to get you off the speedo though.
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« Reply #44 on: 14 May 2010, 08:01:40 »

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Ive seen 150 in my 3.0 auto estate on a private road
and 149 in her 3.0 manual estate on the same private road.

I would say both had a little more to give, but would have taken time and space I didnt have.

I dont think any retail model is going to get you off the speedo though.
I didn't know the A55 was private ::) ;D ;D
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