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[feeutfo]

These ideas all have one floor....the fundamental thing we have not managed yet is to get the bushes fully inserted!

I did. Dont know what all the fuss is about.
I do remember lots of bruises and a large persuader though.
And old fashioned solid Fairy.

So what ever method to get them in so far, plus fairy and a big bat?

[feeutfo]

right, going to have a look at this today/tommorow.

Did any body have any luck(Mark)? York meet was mentioned.... :-/

[doz]

I've not done the donut bushes on the back of a mig before but I've done plenty on Carltons and understand they are the same. A little trick you can use to help the bush in is turn the triangle shaped plate upside down and use it to push the bush in. Also as mentioned before. Use a hammer to "shock" the bush in by hitting all round the edge of the bush helps. I have never had one work it's way out. As for lube. If I was really stuck (no pun intended) I would use proper rubber grease.

[feeutfo]

right. Mark, your method/theory does not work, not on mine anyway. Closest i got was to bolt the bush in minus the plate and with 20 mill spaces behind the arm, and stick a jack on it. The the bush was fully home, until i released the jack, and it just returned to its origingal position. You can belt 7 shades out of it if you like but it wont go in any more, not and stay there anyway.

I have now removed the bush and lubed with talk, nfg, wont go in, soapy water no good either.

Beginning to wonder if its the bush, they are from first line. Looks like the rubber is rucking up as its forced in....ffs. :-(

[feeutfo]

tire soap next i reckon.

[Jimbob]

The thought occurs.....


These are Carlton Bushes cos they are better and 'the same size'

What if they were changed for a reason, and these will never fit properly?

Has anyone done a proper side to side comparrison?

[feeutfo]

The thought occurs.....


These are Carlton Bushes cos they are better and 'the same size'

What if they were changed for a reason, and these will never fit properly?

Has anyone done a proper side to side comparrison?

Only visually, i had a pair of each, and fitted the carlton ones as they looked the same bar the void holes. Didnt measure i must admit. Also i presume Mark is fitting omega bushes, i think, and still having a problem.

However, having driven Kevin Woods mv6 which has stock and original rear bushes and after market £50 wishbones its clearly not necessary to fit firmer bushes, just better suspension and different tires, his car drove far better/straighter. I am in the process of fitting mv6 suspension.

 So if its not necessary and being a pain there would be sense in fitting stock rear bushes, if Mark where not having fitting issues also....

[Jimbob]

The thought occurs.....


These are Carlton Bushes cos they are better and 'the same size'

What if they were changed for a reason, and these will never fit properly?

Has anyone done a proper side to side comparrison?

Only visually, i had a pair of each, and fitted the carlton ones as they looked the same bar the void holes. Didnt measure i must admit. Also i presume Mark is fitting omega bushes, i think, and still having a problem.

However, having driven Kevin Woods mv6 which has stock and original rear bushes and after market £50 wishbones its clearly not necessary to fit firmer bushes, just better suspension and different tires, his car drove far better/straighter. I am in the process of fitting mv6 suspension.

 So if its not necessary and being a pain there would be sense in fitting stock rear bushes, if Mark where not having fitting issues also....

Think Mark has the Carlton ones as well  :-/

[feeutfo]

oh, ok. Maybe then. Unless others have had trouble fitting omega ones???

[Iain]

Ive just read these 4 pages and now im turning on the gas oven.....



Mine need done!!

I pretty sure i did these bushes on a Senny a few years ago,and i dont remember having too much trouble,im sure i used a trolley jack and a piece of wood to jack them into place.....

Maybe the Carlton/Senator ones are just slightly different after all??

[doz]

I really think you should try a genuine bush and see if that cures it.

[Iain]

A GM part for an Omega rather than Carlton do you mean Doz?

[doz]

I think you need to go back to basics. I'd try a standard Mig bush if that fits then you know what the issue is.

[lee4206]

I think it must be the bushes your using as when i did mine last year i got the solid bushes from eurocarparts sprayed them with white grease put them in and there still fully home.  I used the upturned triangular plate to insert them with a high powered air gun and that seemed to pull them in no probs.
lee

[feeutfo]

you could be right then by the round of it. Ill give the tire soap a go and if that dont work, Gm omega bushes it is.
Wonder what Mark has exactly? GM carlton i presume? As opposed to first line carlton efforts that i have, Mark?

Thanks for input guys by the way. :-)