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[Andy B]

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As only one spring is missing, am I right in saying that the rattle springs are the same across both rear callipers ?
According to Vauxhall, they are different but I can't see how the hell they can be if the pads are the same 

they're different. The spring spans the edge of the disc ..... vented disc is twice as thick 

[05omegav6]

Don't panic...

Firstly, I was out on my pricing, I had to order a set for another car and they were nearer £45 from VX

Secondly, Jason at Allgerman has confirmed that they are available as a stock item for about a tenner

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Ahhh - I was about to suggest looking at other cars (later Vectras for instance?) which may have a thicker pad, and consequently longer pins. All good. And Allgermanparts the way to go!! 

[05omegav6]

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As only one spring is missing, am I right in saying that the rattle springs are the same across both rear callipers ?
According to Vauxhall, they are different but I can't see how the hell they can be if the pads are the same 

they're different. The spring spans the edge of the disc ..... vented disc is twice as thick 

20mm vs. 12mm.

FITTING THE NARROW SPRING TO A VENTED CALIPER WILL MOST LIKELY JAM THE PADS APART... ESSENTIALLY LOCKING THE REAR BRAKES OFF. ALMOST AS STUPID AS FITTING SOLID DISCS TO VENTED CALIPERS.

Apologies for shouting, but the point needed to be clear

[Andy B]

..... ALMOST AS STUPID AS FITTING SOLID DISCS TO VENTED CALIPERS.[/b][/size]
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but even the 'experts' in garages have managed to do that 

[tigers_gonads]

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As only one spring is missing, am I right in saying that the rattle springs are the same across both rear callipers ?
According to Vauxhall, they are different but I can't see how the hell they can be if the pads are the same 

they're different. The spring spans the edge of the disc ..... vented disc is twice as thick 

20mm vs. 12mm.

FITTING THE NARROW SPRING TO A VENTED CALIPER WILL MOST LIKELY JAM THE PADS APART... ESSENTIALLY LOCKING THE REAR BRAKES OFF. ALMOST AS STUPID AS FITTING SOLID DISCS TO VENTED CALIPERS.

Apologies for shouting, but the point needed to be clear

Don't panic...

Firstly, I was out on my pricing, I had to order a set for another car and they were nearer £45 from VX

Secondly, Jason at Allgerman has confirmed that they are available as a stock item for about a tenner

....
As only one spring is missing, am I right in saying that the rattle springs are the same across both rear callipers ?
According to Vauxhall, they are different but I can't see how the hell they can be if the pads are the same 

they're different. The spring spans the edge of the disc ..... vented disc is twice as thick 

20mm vs. 12mm.

FITTING THE NARROW SPRING TO A VENTED CALIPER WILL MOST LIKELY JAM THE PADS APART... ESSENTIALLY LOCKING THE REAR BRAKES OFF. ALMOST AS STUPID AS FITTING SOLID DISCS TO VENTED CALIPERS.

Apologies for shouting, but the point needed to be clear

Message received Al, thank you 

[05omegav6]

You're welcome

[05omegav6]

..... ALMOST AS STUPID AS FITTING SOLID DISCS TO VENTED CALIPERS.[/b][/size]
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but even the 'experts' in garages have managed to do that 

Doesn't mean that they're not stupid...

[biggriffin]

My lokal factor does still list fitting kit for vented and non vented, different part numbers and the computa says vented or solid

[tigers_gonads]

Spoke to Jason
Top Bloke 

Should be here tomorrow, 16 quid including the carriage so no complaints from me 

Thanks for the heads up Al 

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Spoke to Jason
Top Bloke 

Should be here tomorrow, 16 quid including the carriage so no complaints from me 

Thanks for the heads up Al 

Bladdy hell!!! I was thinking of getting a set, having read posts, but thought 'well, obviously won't bother ordering a set now, they're never getting here before Christmas, might as well leave it until New Year' That's great service!!!! 

[tigers_gonads]

Spoke to Jason
Top Bloke 

Should be here tomorrow, 16 quid including the carriage so no complaints from me 

Thanks for the heads up Al 

Bladdy hell!!! I was thinking of getting a set, having read posts, but thought 'well, obviously won't bother ordering a set now, they're never getting here before Christmas, might as well leave it until New Year' That's great service!!!! 

Yup, a few on here swear by him but today was my first time.
I must say, he was very gentle and never tried to force himself on me   Great service 

If your reading this Jase, you know were all friggin mad at this end of the M62 

[TheBoy]

Gm only...  Bear with me as out with the great unwashed but have part numbers at home

About £10 for four pins and two springs iirc

Even trade, I think its more than that without the vat

[05omegav6]

The last set I acquired in early November were well over that, about two thirds of what TG was quoted, but so much has happened since then, my mind has gone to mush

But good to know a reliable, sensibly priced option is readily available 

[TheBoy]

The last set I acquired in early November were well over that, about two thirds of what TG was quoted, but so much has happened since then, my mind has gone to mush

But good to know a reliable, sensibly priced option is readily available 

Admittedly before my garage went, I think that trade was about £4 per pin, and a couple of quid per spring, plus the VAT.  This worked out approx. half the GM retail - I remember looking fully at receipt due to cost.