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[tigers_gonads]

I'm British,and not a European!so the rest of Europe can go and opps itself, OH! wait a minute..hasn't it already done that?

I'm from Hull
A part of East Yorkshire in England but I suppose British will do in this case 

[raywilb]

what are the thousands of romany , Estonians , Romanians whom are terrorising parts of the uk contributing to the economy. I vote they all get reallocated to Westminster. then let see what David has to say. he just has not a clue

[johnny_boy]

We have lots of polish bulgarians and rumanian people where i am. To the point where they have increased all primary school places - classes are 50% bigger than 5 years ago.
They appear to all be working the jobs that brits no longer want to do. Construction. Cleaning. Child care.
The availability of a cheap young workforce that is willing to work is a tremendous asset.

[tigers_gonads]

We have lots of polish bulgarians and rumanian people where i am. To the point where they have increased all primary schools are 50% bigger than 5 years ago.
They appear to all be working the jobs that brits no longer want to do. Construction. Cleaning. Child care.
The availability of a cheap young workforce that is willing to work is a tremendous asset.

Fair point
Sadly with the over protective nannying welfare state, the British people became friggin lazy bastards.
Luckily, the system is a lot harder nowdays to get money out of so people have to work now to survive.
The problem is, nobody will give the British a job nowdays when they can get a migrant to do it for less money.
Oh and please don't quote the this minimum wage / working wage shite to me because I get paid £7.75 a hour for 12 hour night shifts when I get work that is 
8 years ago, people doing my job would be earning in excess of £14 a hour for the same work at the same company.
Why do I get paid so little ?
Because they opened the borders to migrants who was (with the inclusion of tax credits ect) happy to live 6 or 8 people up in a 3 bedroom terraced house and take our jobs 

Don't get me wrong here, I don't blame ANYBODY for coming here to improving there life and make a better future for there families but at the end of the day, we are but a small island with limited space and infrastructure so any jobs should go to the people who was born here first.
Then fill in the gaps with migrants if and when needed 

[johnny_boy]

Fair point. Why havent successive governments retrained and reskilled the workforce? Why havent they increased help to low paid workers to make it worthwhile to work? Why is more investment in deprived parts of the country undertaken?
Why are the young written off?
Why are we ruled by old etonians? Thought that went out in 1955?
Why do the young not bother voting?
Is any of this the fault of the polish fella down my road?
They are just responding to market forces. I see them as a positive if they are prepared to work and fit in to our culture.

[gbh]

Choose who you vote for carefully in our country and if you don't like vote them out!! You have no say over EU so need to worry there because you can't vote them out!! As for the Pole down the road who cares what he thinks after all he is just a visitor and has no loyalty or ties to this country unless in due course he proves differently.British people have always worked in all fields ,of course there are some who would prefer not to but then that's down to the government of the day to change their minds.When we leave school there has to be a broad spectrum of work and workers and this should be filled by our own people first and this will include training like when i did a 4.5 year apprenticeship  as an electrician.But why bother to train your own that costs money so use imported workers with the skills you need and don't train,then eventually you will have non skilled work force and not much hope unless you go to uni and rack up a load of debt.Just take a moment to think it took me 4.5 years to train same for plumbers and all the building trades,could i get the same training in college,uni. As a customer would you want a truly skilled workman with experience or someone fresh out of college if they even do such things now,if employers don't train how will young people learn? I remember we needed welders from Poland for shipbuilding here the home of shipbuilding.How sad we have become!!!!!!!

[Steve B]

This increasingly looking like the "leave" are gonna get the vote on this.

[btc]

Seems Cameron and his his cronies are getting a bit desperate saying there could be cuts to the pensions NHS and defence

[Kevin Wood]

what are the thousands of romany , Estonians , Romanians whom are terrorising parts of the uk contributing to the economy. I vote they all get reallocated to Westminster Chipping Norton. then let see what David has to say. he just has not a clue

Fixed that for you.

[Varche]

So following a Brexit Cameron claims pensions would be affected.

I saw an interesting demographics study in the FT. Age groups 50 and above were more likely to vote Out. So it is certainly a targeted pice of propaganda.

[johnny_boy]

Its actually true what he us saying about pensions. This country will struggle to maintain state pension and nhs due to an ageing population.
We arent the worse, germany has a bigger problem. However, they are openly welcoming people, i suspect with the knowledge that this will help solve the problem.
This is the secret, to preserve our current prosperity we need more young people.
Immigrants provide an immediate source of tax revenue without being a burden on the state.
They come here to work.
Its how america and germany became as rich as they are.
We are at risk of cutting off our nose to spite our face.

[gbh]

Of course they can claim a pension here too!!! So if you can't pay for it now in 30 years time you will need more people to pay for them or put pension age up for all or stop it all together!!!

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

No-one on the Leave side is advocating banning all immigrants from coming here. The point us, our elected Govt. should decide who comes and why. If we need a certain number of immigrants with particular skills, then of course they should be allowed to come.
Being in possession of an EU passport isn't a valid reason for being allowed to come here.
As for low paid low skill jobs. When all of our unemployed  are employed in these jobs, if we still have shortage of people to fill the vacancies, then we can allow enough people in, on non permanent work visas, to fill the gaps.
Seemples.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Why havent successive governments retrained and reskilled the workforce?
Why havent they increased help to low paid workers to make it worthwhile to work?
Why are the young written off?

Because it's cheaper and easier to ship in foreigners who are willing to work for minimum wage, than to invest in and train our own youngsters that's why. 

[johnny_boy]

In my experience poles bulgarians rumanians french and spaniards have not come here to claim 50 quid a week benefit. They didnt leave their homeland and their families behind for the english food or weather either.
They are here to work.
And having a  ministry of immigration to tightly control whether someone is right for a job is not what british industry wants either. They need to fill positions now. Without the government giving them the ok.
We live in a globalised world. Companies go from country to country and have no loyalties.