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[tunnie]

how many different types are there?

cdx
gls
cd
tdcx
td elite

am i missing any? so the gls is the quickest?

gls
cd
cdx
elite
mv6
sport
td gls
td cd
td cdx
td elite

then manuels and autos takes it to 20 and thats without adding the estates up

Don't forget the poverty spec "Select" model 

[Banjax]

Everything being equal, you're still not going to detect any difference in speed between the trim levels unless you have a stopwatch that goes to 1/100,000ths 

the minor difference in weight on a car the size of an omega is insignificant, like driving a caterham before and after having your haircut 

[cem_devecioglu]

during that debate I think one point also not mentioned.. a heavier car is not always slower.. its acceleration depends also on the downforce .. if the downforce is not adequate, your tires can not apply full force to the surface..

also meaning suspension components play an important role..

of course all these are valid if we race on a straight track..

however on curved roads as centrifugal forces come into play things change drastically as higher mass is disadvantage..

[mr carl]

during that debate I think one point also not mentioned.. a heavier car is not always slower.. its acceleration depends also on the downforce .. if the downforce is not adequate, your tires can not apply full force to the surface..

also meaning suspension components play an important role..

of course all these are valid if we race on a straight track..

however on curved roads as centrifugal forces come into play things change drastically as higher mass is disadvantage..

But both cars would have these factors to contend with, not only the lighter of the two....

[cem_devecioglu]

during that debate I think one point also not mentioned.. a heavier car is not always slower.. its acceleration depends also on the downforce .. if the downforce is not adequate, your tires can not apply full force to the surface..

also meaning suspension components play an important role..

of course all these are valid if we race on a straight track..

however on curved roads as centrifugal forces come into play things change drastically as higher mass is disadvantage..

But both cars would have these factors to contend with, not only the lighter of the two....

if we are talking about physics (as we have to) those factors wont be the same .. cars with powers exceeding 200 hp will need some weight for downforce..  and dont neglect the factor of wind uplift.. trust me if we were talking about 500 hp or  more downforce would be very critical..

imo too many parameters to take into account.. best approach is to try them on the track

[mr carl]

Lmao I just wanted to know which car out of the range was booked as the quickest

[albitz]

Downforce will not have any influence at all accellerating from 0-60mph. ..............asuming you are talking about aerodynamic downforce ?

[Jimbob]

Lmao I just wanted to know which car out of the range was booked as the quickest

No practical difference    I think is the answer you want.

you are limiting yourself to older cars with the 2.5.

If you went 2.6, you get virtually the same economy / power but can go considerable newer, and also add the MV6 to your choices being a little sportier in suspension.

[mr carl]

Everything being equal, you're still not going to detect any difference in speed between the trim levels unless you have a stopwatch that goes to 1/100,000ths 

the minor difference in weight on a car the size of an omega is insignificant, like driving a caterham before and after having your haircut 

[cem_devecioglu]

Downforce will not have any influence at all accellerating from 0-60mph. ..............asuming you are talking about aerodynamic downforce ?

if there is no downforce, there will be no grip  and no acceleration

why do you think f1 cars have those wings ..

[cem_devecioglu]

Downforce will not have any influence at all accellerating from 0-60mph. ..............asuming you are talking about aerodynamic downforce ?

if there is no downforce, there will be no grip  and no acceleration

why do you think f1 cars have those wings ..

make a simple test..

take a tire with no wheel and put on the road and try turning.. easy.. then push downwards and now try to turn..

[mr carl]

Downforce will not have any influence at all accellerating from 0-60mph. ..............asuming you are talking about aerodynamic downforce ?

if there is no downforce, there will be no grip  and no acceleration

why do you think f1 cars have those wings ..

So now I need a spoiler just to get the bugger to move? 

[cem_devecioglu]

ok.. here is the question..

what shape will have the graph if you plot acceleration (y axis) versus tire width (x axis) ?

[cem_devecioglu]

Downforce will not have any influence at all accellerating from 0-60mph. ..............asuming you are talking about aerodynamic downforce ?

if there is no downforce, there will be no grip  and no acceleration

why do you think f1 cars have those wings ..

So now I need a spoiler just to get the bugger to move? 

not simple to answer.. depends on your car weight, tire profile , engine torque.. :-/

[mr carl]

Downforce will not have any influence at all accellerating from 0-60mph. ..............asuming you are talking about aerodynamic downforce ?

if there is no downforce, there will be no grip  and no acceleration

why do you think f1 cars have those wings ..

So now I need a spoiler just to get the bugger to move? 

not simple to answer.. depends on your car weight, tire profile , engine torque.. :-/

Sounds like it will be more effective if I just get someone to push me everywhere...

The reason I'm a little anal with 0-60 times is if I don't mind having a car 1 second slower than the calibra, then I won't mind having a v6 1 second slower than the faster 2.5....so by this time I have lost 2seconds slower than the car I started with, then I just as well get a diesel....