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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #45 on: 13 October 2010, 11:46:25 »

I think that was the problem with the people incorrectly giving out SP50s, too  ;D ;D
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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #46 on: 13 October 2010, 12:14:11 »

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It'd be an SP30, Chris, if you do get done:

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SP30      Exceeding statutory speed limit on a public road      3-6
SP40      Exceeding passenger vehicle speed limit      3-6
SP50      Exceeding speed limit on a motorway      3-6

From: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/EndorsementsAndDisqualifications/DG_10022425

ISTR a lot of people were incorrectly given SP50s a few years back when they should have been given SP30s - there was an appeals procedure put in place when it was realised.. 'course now I can't find a link to back that up  ;D

I checked that link and can't find sp60 which is the code that dvla printed on my license,is this one that they no longer use as it was 6 years ago
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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #47 on: 13 October 2010, 12:19:37 »

Ah yes - SP60 was the one they were incorrectly using - it's now been withdrawn and you can apply to the courts to have it corrected to the relevant (SP30/50) code.

SP60 was "Undefined speeding offence" and usually carried a heavy insurance cost penalty when an SP30 (or SP50) would not have done.

More about this here - the documentation on the DVLA site appears to have 'vanished':
http://forums.pepipoo.com/lofiversion/index.php/t22493.html

More here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/speed/default.asp?storyId=11684

[edit] Oh as it was 6 years ago in your case, you should apply to have it removed from your license (it's no longer valid for totting up purposes and should have expired now, I believe)
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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #48 on: 13 October 2010, 12:24:18 »

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Ah yes - SP60 was the one they were incorrectly using - it's now been withdrawn and you can apply to the courts to have it corrected to the relevant (SP30/50) code.

SP60 was "Undefined speeding offence" and usually carried a heavy insurance cost penalty when an SP30 (or SP50) would not have done.

More about this here - the documentation on the DVLA site appears to have 'vanished':
http://forums.pepipoo.com/lofiversion/index.php/t22493.html

More here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/speed/default.asp?storyId=11684

[edit] Oh as it was 6 years ago in your case, you should apply to have it removed from your license (it's no longer valid for totting up purposes and should have expired now, I believe)

thanks for the info,it didn't affect my insurance at the time,they just said they allow one speed offence(didn't even ask for the specific code) :y
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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #49 on: 14 October 2010, 17:45:45 »

whatever happens expect a spanking.
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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #50 on: 14 October 2010, 19:16:39 »

Went through said junction last night, as it happens. Clearly signposted "Traffic signal and speed cameras". :(

Doesn't mean they aren't just using Talivans there occasionally instead though.

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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #51 on: 14 October 2010, 19:52:08 »

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Went through said junction last night, as it happens. Clearly signposted "Traffic signal and speed cameras". :(

Doesn't mean they aren't just using Talivans there occasionally instead though.

Kevin

so yes, you are down for a few points.
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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #52 on: 22 October 2010, 22:09:59 »

Well, it was two weeks ago tomorrow.... ::)
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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #53 on: 22 October 2010, 22:16:35 »

There's always the saturday post ...  :P ;)

Or maybe you got lucky ;)
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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #54 on: 22 October 2010, 22:17:31 »

takes up to 28 working days bud...  :-/
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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #55 on: 22 October 2010, 22:18:04 »

I've nailed the letter box shut  :D
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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #56 on: 22 October 2010, 22:23:01 »

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takes up to 28 working days bud...  :-/

Got a source for that? PePiPoo is pretty informative and quotes 14 days:
http://www.pepipoo.com/NIP.htm


And ;D Chris .. but what about all those important letters? Like .. bills and junk mail (that's all I get, anyway!)
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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #57 on: 22 October 2010, 22:24:12 »

its sent special delivery with a sledgie included for the postie to break your door down...  ;D
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« Reply #58 on: 22 October 2010, 22:25:33 »

Or if Chris's front door is anything like mine.. the postie can just slip it under the bottom  ;D
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Re: Flashed by a traffic light camera...
« Reply #59 on: 22 October 2010, 22:25:48 »

The NIP must be ISSUED within 14 days ... not recieved ... subtle difference  ... and they don't have to prove you recieved it either ...

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What is the 14 day rule?

The 14 day rule relates only to the period of time in which the Police/Process Unit must serve the original Notice. The Police do not have to prove that the Notice reached its intended recipient within 14 days, merely that in the normal course of events, it should have arrived. In many cases, the registered keeper will be a lease company not the actual driver with the result that even if the driver is unaware of the incident, service of the Notice is good if it was sent to arrive at the registered keeper's last known address within 14 days of the offence.
The Notice of Intended Prosecution was issued out of time, what do I do now?

If you are the registered keeper of the vehicle and the ISSUE date on the Notice of Intended Prosecution is more than 14 days after the offence, then you can reject it. This only applies if it is dated more than 14 days after the alleged offence. It does not apply if it is dated within 14 days but received more than 14 days after the offence. If the NIP has been issued too late, then you should return it to the Process Office stating that you reject it because it is time barred. Bear in mind that if you are not the registered keeper, the NIP may have originally been issued within time and sent to the keeper.

source : http://www.motorlawyers.co.uk/procedure/notice_of_intended_prosecution.htm

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