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So what have you done to your car today?

Started by Loo-knee, 28 April 2011, 21:20:22

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chrisgixer

Quote from: TheBoy on 16 November 2014, 20:22:52
Quote from: Taxi Al on 16 November 2014, 20:17:38
Quote from: Marks DTM Calib on 16 November 2014, 19:58:23
A bit of welding, rear caliper change and a check over for water leaks on a members car.
Has he finally vented the rear brakes on that poor car... ;D
No, of course not. Why do you think vented are needed  :-\
Why do you think they aren't?

05omegav6

Quote from: chrisgixer on 16 November 2014, 20:24:41
Quote from: TheBoy on 16 November 2014, 20:22:52
Quote from: Taxi Al on 16 November 2014, 20:17:38
Quote from: Marks DTM Calib on 16 November 2014, 19:58:23
A bit of welding, rear caliper change and a check over for water leaks on a members car.
Has he finally vented the rear brakes on that poor car... ;D
No, of course not. Why do you think vented are needed  :-\
Why do you think they aren't?
Good point, well presented :D

05omegav6

Quote from: TheBoy on 16 November 2014, 20:22:52
Quote from: Taxi Al on 16 November 2014, 20:17:38
Quote from: Marks DTM Calib on 16 November 2014, 19:58:23
A bit of welding, rear caliper change and a check over for water leaks on a members car.
Has he finally vented the rear brakes on that poor car... ;D
No, of course not. Why do you think vented are needed  :-\
Might stop the discs from melting... ::)

TheBoy

Unless making excessive use of TC, I have no problem with the rears overheating  ???.  Fronts, yes I can see a potential reason if you drive like Mr Gixer everywhere, but not rears  :-\
Grumpy old man

05omegav6

Quote from: TheBoy on 16 November 2014, 20:29:51
Unless making excessive use of TC, I have no problem with the rears overheating  ???.  Fronts, yes I can see a potential reason if you drive like Mr Gixer everywhere, but not rears  :-\
How many calipers have you welded up this year ::) Would have thought more thermally efficient rears would take some of the strain from the fronts :-\

chrisgixer

Quote from: Taxi Al on 16 November 2014, 20:34:01
Quote from: TheBoy on 16 November 2014, 20:29:51
Unless making excessive use of TC, I have no problem with the rears overheating  ???.  Fronts, yes I can see a potential reason if you drive like Mr Gixer everywhere, but not rears  :-\
How many calipers have you welded up this year ::) Would have thought more thermally efficient rears would take some of the strain from the fronts :-\
Can lead a horse.... But will it drink.

TheBoy

Quote from: Taxi Al on 16 November 2014, 20:34:01
Quote from: TheBoy on 16 November 2014, 20:29:51
Unless making excessive use of TC, I have no problem with the rears overheating  ???.  Fronts, yes I can see a potential reason if you drive like Mr Gixer everywhere, but not rears  :-\
How many calipers have you welded up this year ::) Would have thought more thermally efficient rears would take some of the strain from the fronts :-\
Only that seized one due to a failed seal  :-\.  The fronts get pretty warm on a spirited run, but how will fitting vented rears help? The rears are not overheating (when working as they should, lets ignore the seized bit for now ::)).
Grumpy old man

05omegav6

Ok to turn that around, when the fronts are cooked to buggery, the rears are all that's left... seized bits notwithstanding ::)

TheBoy

Quote from: Taxi Al on 16 November 2014, 21:02:18
Ok to turn that around, when the fronts are cooked to buggery, the rears are all that's left... seized bits notwithstanding ::)
I'm clearly misunderstanding  :-\. If the fronts are that spent the rears, no matter how powerful or their cooling capacity, aren't going to stop you....
Grumpy old man

minifreek

Fitted reversing sensors to the Miggy today :) can park better now I have an idea of how far I have to go before using the towbar as a stop LOL
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F...

chrisgixer

Quote from: TheBoy on 16 November 2014, 21:09:40
Quote from: Taxi Al on 16 November 2014, 21:02:18
Ok to turn that around, when the fronts are cooked to buggery, the rears are all that's left... seized bits notwithstanding ::)
I'm clearly misunderstanding  :-\. If the fronts are that spent the rears, no matter how powerful or their cooling capacity, aren't going to stop you....

They have more effect than you think, as fitting Oe rears once pointed out to me.

So I take it you don't think over heating rears cooked the grease in the calipers to cause the seizure? Presumably the boot was split? How did that happen?

TheBoy

Quote from: chrisgixer on 16 November 2014, 21:28:20
They have more effect than you think, as fitting Oe rears once pointed out to me.
A vented calliper is not going to provide a more powerful braking force. It provides better cooling of said brake.  I am not cooking rears. Lend me you mallet, and you and Al line up for a thwacking.

Quote from: chrisgixer on 16 November 2014, 21:28:20
So I take it you don't think over heating rears cooked the grease in the calipers to cause the seizure?
Not aware of any grease in rears, but a high temp grease would be used anyway. So No.

Quote from: chrisgixer on 16 November 2014, 21:28:20
Presumably the boot was split? How did that happen?
I'm guessing that these things happen after 16 years, 218k.  Or should all car bits last forever?
Grumpy old man

05omegav6

#8997
The 3.2 calipers do have a greater piston diameter, which iirc equates to a greater piston area and therefore more produce more breaking force :-\

Ok an extra 2mm of diameter won't set the world (or brakes) on fire, but it's there for a reason :y

chrisgixer

So you don't think the extra heat of a non vented disc would transfer through the pad to the piston and its seal, cook and split the seal, leat water in, and seize the caliper...?


Although 217k isn't bad going. How many of those in your ownership though?

chrisgixer

I guess an autopsy on the caliper will tell. :)


....and get your own mallet. :P