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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #195 on: 18 August 2006, 11:34:05 »
Gah!, just doner a bloody battery - we're on tenterhooks here
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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #196 on: 18 August 2006, 15:37:55 »
Update time .....

Charged up the battery and turned the key.

Engine burst into life,  but sounded very similar to before (ie no better >:()

More worrying, was smoke coming from the engine.  Video attached.



What do you think guys???
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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #197 on: 18 August 2006, 15:56:00 »
difficult to tell where the smoke is coming from in video - is it coming from where egr meets exhaust, on further along?
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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #198 on: 18 August 2006, 16:49:03 »
The clatter seems possible to be dry tappits the smoke as TheBoy says looks to be coming from down below the egr valve where it meets the manifold.

Possible manifold leak aswell, could be causing the noise.

What is the oil level like.

HTH

Just what I think it could be, I am sure someone will be able to confirm.
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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #199 on: 18 August 2006, 18:49:50 »
The smoke was coming from around the bolt where the EGR meets the manifold, although curiously it hasn't been doing it this time round.

I have checked the oil and there is plenty, it is quite thick and looks like it needs a change, but there is plenty of it, and it sounded fine before the failure.

The attached vid was taken after the sodding secondary air pump had shut the f up.  Picture not great but the sound is the issue.



Aside from sounding like a diesel  :-?  every so often you can here a definate clunk.

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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #200 on: 18 August 2006, 19:45:21 »
Difficult to tell from video, is it like a tappet tap? If so, could be lack of oil in tappets, or a hole in manifold...
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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #201 on: 18 August 2006, 20:43:47 »
Oh dear, after all you have been through it sounds rough. Definately hear that clonk you talk about. Doesnt seem to be cyclonic though, just every now and then. Dont want to be a kill joy but that seems to be a tops of and inspection job.
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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #202 on: 18 August 2006, 23:12:03 »
I had exactly the same symptoms when I changed my cam belt last year. The smoke from around the EGR valve disappeared after a while, but the engine sounded awful. Sounded like tractor running on 2 cylinders. In fact, I stripped the whole lot down again the following day. Found no problems with the timing, so I put it all back together. The sodding clacking sound was still there! In frustration I took the car round the block and gave it a bit of wellie. Darn me, the noise gradually got quieter and quieter. After about 15 to 20 minutes, I suppose, it had disappeared altogether. The problem? Dunno, but I suspect it was a dry cam. Once the oil got forced around, it freed everything up.

Not sure if all this helps - it's just a thought.

Might help you sleep better, though!!  ;)

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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #203 on: 19 August 2006, 09:56:47 »
The smoke I would think is crap being burnt off in the exhaust follwing its previous trouble, it looks to be leaking from the corrugated pipe from the exhaust manifold to EGR, oftne this is just a loose union nut so can be tweaked up.

The tappets do sound noisey.......does it run smoothly or not......the knock/pop, is it coming from the inlet area?
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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #204 on: 19 August 2006, 10:04:43 »
I haven't tried to actually drive it, I was scared that something worse might happen.

The smoke stopped the second time of starting.
The sounding like a diesel is fairly constant
The 'clunk' noise is not regular, when it happens it co-incides with the engine faltering then picking up again.

I don't really know where it is coming from, other than it seems to be more pronounced on the passenger side of the engine.

I am here with the car, so able to try things to order, and can video and post the findings.
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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #205 on: 19 August 2006, 10:12:31 »
I would take it round the block and see how it goes, it might well clear up as its been sat for a fair while.....
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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #206 on: 19 August 2006, 10:27:08 »
It probably been sat for a month, and the hydraulic tappets may have lost all their oil.

IIRC, your rocker gaskets are suspect? pull the plug leads and remove any oil in the plug wells in case it also has a slight misfire.
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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #207 on: 19 August 2006, 10:46:16 »
That was short lived!

I turned it on.  gave it some revs, which is provided in a fairly stuttering sort of way,
Then moved the wife's car out of the way, got into mine, it is now idleing like a diesel truck,
battery light dimmly coming on and off, no response to me pressing the accelerator.

The attached vid shows the noise it is making, the response to throttle and the final bit is me taking the camera from drivers side to passengers side accross the engine.

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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #208 on: 19 August 2006, 10:55:14 »
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It probably been sat for a month, and the hydraulic tappets may have lost all their oil.

IIRC, your rocker gaskets are suspect? pull the plug leads and remove any oil in the plug wells in case it also has a slight misfire.

Bugga! just popped the lead of plug 1 and had a texan bloke start shouting Yee-Haa ::)
More sodding oil in there than a bloody oily thing!!!

Is there a simple way to get it out?
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Re: Oh Bugger - The END?
« Reply #209 on: 19 August 2006, 11:23:46 »
Oh dear! Box of matches and a gallon of motion lotion!?   :o  ::)
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