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[Cookie Monster]

Hi
Been "listening" to all this in depth tyre knowledge and to be honest i am lost by alot of it, but i never considered buying part worn before.
Are they generally good buy ? And where do you buy them from/get them fitted?
I usually go to my local retailer and maybe get ripped off but without the knowledge/understanding i cant tell for sure.
Learning something new every day .. worryingly it seems like more the older i get !

Adam

[MV6Matt]

Like hell I'd put 452s or 912s on an Omega. Bloody awful tyre.

The BMW forums are in awe of them for some reason. IMHO they are awful and evil and should be burnt at a stake.

They are a generally well respected tyre, just clearly don't work on Omegas....

No, Don't put 452's on an Omega, especially if you have a larger wheel.

Replaced mine with Contis.
Will only fit Contis PZero or Potenzas now.

Budget Tyres not for me............

[TheBoy]

i never considered buying part worn before.
Are they generally good buy ?

Not as a planned buy.  A 6.5mm tyre is about half worn, and its best grip has passed, as has its water disperssing capabilities.

The cost of them is usually over half the price of brand new tyre.

But they may have a place for those needing a tyre or 2 in an emergency, before payday, if that person is only worried about legality, rather than safety grip.

[hit it with a hammer]

i never considered buying part worn before.
Are they generally good buy ?

Not as a planned buy.  A 6.5mm tyre is about half worn, and its best grip has passed, as has its water disperssing capabilities.

The cost of them is usually over half the price of brand new tyre.

But they may have a place for those needing a tyre or 2 in an emergency, before payday, if that person is only worried about legality, rather than safety grip.

part worn tyres suit my purpose as i only use the car for work and shopping (about 60 miles a week) and never travel more than 20 miles away from home all within 30 mph limit,i prefer the bikes but also need a car

[D]

i never considered buying part worn before.
Are they generally good buy ?

Not as a planned buy.  A 6.5mm tyre is about half worn, and its best grip has passed, as has its water disperssing capabilities.

The cost of them is usually over half the price of brand new tyre.

But they may have a place for those needing a tyre or 2 in an emergency, before payday, if that person is only worried about legality, rather than safety grip.

Couldn't agree more!

[05omegav6]

OK it seems like im getting slammed for saying sunny tyres....and paying way over the odds £140 fitted, new valves, balanced and old tyre disposal, all i can say is they came along at the right price and the right time,i have no issue with them,,remember the thread topic is BUDGET,,,as i own  2002 2.6 worth about £700 and pay over £1000 per year insurance as i live within 3 miles of the centre of London put on top of that £160 car tax and pay on average £1.37 per liter of petrol i try to run the car on a budget which includes tyres..i think i got a bargain as they came off a 2.2 omega mot Failure that the owner was trying to get some money back on,they cost him £325.98 3 month and 550 miles before i got them,,so i think it was a fair price,these tyres are a hard size to find part worn as only fit a few cars, and you just have to look on flebay to see that people are paying £50 to £70 for part worn with only 3 / 4mm tread,OK rant over....

Why pay £50 - £70 for a used tyre, when you can easily, ie off the shelf, buy a reasonable NEW tyre for £55 makes no sense to me

If you're worried about quality then Goodyears are a reasonable balance between grip/wear rate and price, which is probably why the old bill used them as a preferred tyre on these

If you only do 5k a year and have a light right foot, then your tyres should last you about 3 years, if a used tyre cost two thirds the price and only lasts half the distance, then they're king expensive

Incidently I can get part worns for only £40, yet I would still never buy one...

[hit it with a hammer]

OK it seems like im getting slammed for saying sunny tyres....and paying way over the odds £140 fitted, new valves, balanced and old tyre disposal, all i can say is they came along at the right price and the right time,i have no issue with them,,remember the thread topic is BUDGET,,,as i own  2002 2.6 worth about £700 and pay over £1000 per year insurance as i live within 3 miles of the centre of London put on top of that £160 car tax and pay on average £1.37 per liter of petrol i try to run the car on a budget which includes tyres..i think i got a bargain as they came off a 2.2 omega mot Failure that the owner was trying to get some money back on,they cost him £325.98 3 month and 550 miles before i got them,,so i think it was a fair price,these tyres are a hard size to find part worn as only fit a few cars, and you just have to look on flebay to see that people are paying £50 to £70 for part worn with only 3 / 4mm tread,OK rant over....

Why pay £50 - £70 for a used tyre, when you can easily, ie off the shelf, buy a reasonable NEW tyre for £55 makes no sense to me

If you're worried about quality then Goodyears are a reasonable balance between grip/wear rate and price, which is probably why the old bill used them as a preferred tyre on these

If you only do 5k a year and have a light right foot, then your tyres should last you about 3 years, if a used tyre cost two thirds the price and only lasts half the distance, then they're king expensive

Incidently I can get part worns for only £40, yet I would still never buy one...

i only paid £35 a tyre fitted/new valves/ balanced & old tyre disposal,and as i said they had only done 550 miles ;)as for a new tyre for £55.all in off the shelf. tell me a other,,,the cheapest 225/55/16 v rated remold costs just a tad under £70 inc Vat,,so to summarize,£140 for 4 harlf decent tyres all in or £280 + fitting/new valves/ balanced & old tyre disposal..i still think i did the right thing for me.

[Lazydocker]

OK it seems like im getting slammed for saying sunny tyres....and paying way over the odds £140 fitted, new valves, balanced and old tyre disposal, all i can say is they came along at the right price and the right time,i have no issue with them,,remember the thread topic is BUDGET,,,as i own  2002 2.6 worth about £700 and pay over £1000 per year insurance as i live within 3 miles of the centre of London put on top of that £160 car tax and pay on average £1.37 per liter of petrol i try to run the car on a budget which includes tyres..i think i got a bargain as they came off a 2.2 omega mot Failure that the owner was trying to get some money back on,they cost him £325.98 3 month and 550 miles before i got them,,so i think it was a fair price,these tyres are a hard size to find part worn as only fit a few cars, and you just have to look on flebay to see that people are paying £50 to £70 for part worn with only 3 / 4mm tread,OK rant over....

Why pay £50 - £70 for a used tyre, when you can easily, ie off the shelf, buy a reasonable NEW tyre for £55 makes no sense to me

If you're worried about quality then Goodyears are a reasonable balance between grip/wear rate and price, which is probably why the old bill used them as a preferred tyre on these

If you only do 5k a year and have a light right foot, then your tyres should last you about 3 years, if a used tyre cost two thirds the price and only lasts half the distance, then they're king expensive

Incidently I can get part worns for only £40, yet I would still never buy one...

i only paid £35 a tyre fitted/new valves/ balanced & old tyre disposal,and as i said they had only done 550 miles ;)as for a new tyre for £55.all in off the shelf. tell me a other,,,the cheapest 225/55/16 v rated remold costs just a tad under £70 inc Vat,,so to summarize,£140 for 4 harlf decent tyres all in or £280 + fitting/new valves/ balanced & old tyre disposal..i still think i did the right thing for me.

Really? I used to pay under £50 per corner for Accellera Alpha's in that size, paid £52/corner for them in 235/45/17.

Mind you, I am aware that tyre prices have gone up recently

At the end of the day, you're happy with the deal and that's all that matters

[05omegav6]

as for a new tyre for £55.all in off the shelf.  tell me a other,,,the cheapest 225/55/16 v rated remold costs just a tad under £70 inc Vat

If you want to split hairs, £55+VaT=£66. It's what I pay for my tyres, new and not remoulded. If it wasn't then I wouldn't have said it

[Andy H]

as for a new tyre for £55.all in off the shelf.  tell me a other,,,the cheapest 225/55/16 v rated remold costs just a tad under £70 inc Vat

If you want to split hairs, £55+VaT=£66. It's what I pay for my tyres, new and not remoulded. If it wasn't then I wouldn't have said it

Just checked the invoice for the tyres I bought on 23rd December, 235/45R17 £51.95 + £1.25 disposal tax + VAT = £64.18

[Shimmy]

Remoulds.   

Budget remoulds.

Budget remoulds at £70.


Errrrrr 

[hotel21]

Not as a planned buy.  A 6.5mm tyre is about half worn, and its best grip has passed, as has its water disperssing capabilities.

Challenge you to measure the tread depth on a brand new Mich/Conti/pirrelli/Goodyear/Linglong ditchfinder and review the above.

Never seen anything close to 13mm on a new tyre, short of an AT or M&S one but agree, best water dispersant properties have longtime passed.........   

[TheBoy]

Not as a planned buy.  A 6.5mm tyre is about half worn, and its best grip has passed, as has its water disperssing capabilities.

Challenge you to measure the tread depth on a brand new Mich/Conti/pirrelli/Goodyear/Linglong ditchfinder and review the above.

Never seen anything close to 13mm on a new tyre, short of an AT or M&S one but agree, best water dispersant properties have longtime passed.........   

most come with about 9mm, some 9.5mm

tyre grip tends to be well past it, even in dry, by 2.5-3mm IME, no idea if its age or wear related. So about 5.5-6mm is half worn without doing maths too hard. Again IME, the tyre seems initially more durable, and seems to wear much faster as it wears.

so I stand by my original comments....

[hit it with a hammer]

Not as a planned buy.  A 6.5mm tyre is about half worn, and its best grip has passed, as has its water disperssing capabilities.

Challenge you to measure the tread depth on a brand new Mich/Conti/pirrelli/Goodyear/Linglong ditchfinder and review the above.

Never seen anything close to 13mm on a new tyre, short of an AT or M&S one but agree, best water dispersant properties have longtime passed.........   

most come with about 9mm, some 9.5mm

tyre grip tends to be well past it, even in dry, by 2.5-3mm IME, no idea if its age or wear related. So about 5.5-6mm is half worn without doing maths too hard. Again IME, the tyre seems initially more durable, and seems to wear much faster as it wears.

so I stand by my original comments....

Is true,as tyre wears the elasticity and pliable grip is reduced I.E= 8mm when new=100%grip... 4mm 1/2worn=28%grip (not allowing for the release agent that soaks into the 0.00005 of outer tread)that is why a tyre needs 50 to 80 miles use to run in
it seams that the more a tyre is used the polymers in the rubber harden through heat and harden the rubber,that is why race tyres are so soft and dont last long ,,if you listen to f1 or world super bike you will hear the commentator say the tyres have past it or gone off,this means they have got hot and lost all the polymers out of the tyre.
god this almost makes me sound intelligent?

[sticka_v8_init]

Not as a planned buy.  A 6.5mm tyre is about half worn, and its best grip has passed, as has its water disperssing capabilities.

Challenge you to measure the tread depth on a brand new Mich/Conti/pirrelli/Goodyear/Linglong ditchfinder and review the above.

Never seen anything close to 13mm on a new tyre, short of an AT or M&S one but agree, best water dispersant properties have longtime passed.........   

most come with about 9mm, some 9.5mm

tyre grip tends to be well past it, even in dry, by 2.5-3mm IME, no idea if its age or wear related. So about 5.5-6mm is half worn without doing maths too hard. Again IME, the tyre seems initially more durable, and seems to wear much faster as it wears.

so I stand by my original comments....

+1 Always change mine & internal managements tyres at about 2.5mm for reasons above.