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[gbh]

And here is said event and i'm in it i.e tall call with white top at start---https://www.facebook.com/nigelfarageofficial/videos/1042554939125442/

[Webby the Bear]

I am going to be voting out.

However irrespective of this I predict the country will vote 62% to 38% to stay. Note these are made up figures by me so no abuse please.

The reason I think this is because the stay in campaign are all over the place. The leave campaign are just too quiet. The public will vote for what they see most people agreeing with.

I wonder why so quiet. Tv companies with vested interests?

[Webby the Bear]

Stay campaign is all over the place. By this I meant they're very visible with adverts and such

[Mister Rog]

Just been watch Sunday Politics on BBC.

Daniel Hannan (who stands to loose his job as MEP if we leave) spoke in favour of Brexit

John Prescot ranted and raved about Labour Vs Tories party politics, supposedly in favour of Remain.

Some others.

Danniel Hannan absolutely ruled. Cool calm, rational  reasoning, incredibly elequent. Has probably done more to sway me than anyone else. But right now I'm still undecided 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I'm reluctant either way.

I'm far from convinced that a prosperous new era will dawn if we leave.

I'm far from convinced that remaining will be the better option.

Bonkers Boris and 'shouty' Farage don't help the leave campaign in my opinion.

[Kevin Wood]

John Prescot ranted and raved about Labour Vs Tories party politics, supposedly in favour of Remain.

No doubt they'll have him on next week to finish the sentence he started this week. 

[Migalot]

What concerns me is the the EU is currently reviewing VAT and there have already been negative comments about our zero-rating. So, if Remain wins (please God, no), then I reckon we can look forward to VAT on food, medicine and childrens' clothes. And there won't be a thing we can do to stop it. 

Not a scare story, but a very real possibility. 

[Entwood]

What concerns me is the the EU is currently reviewing VAT and there have already been negative comments about our zero-rating. So, if Remain wins (please God, no), then I reckon we can look forward to VAT on food, medicine and childrens' clothes. And there won't be a thing we can do to stop it. 

Not a scare story, but a very real possibility.

Strange .... you state its not a scare story .. but you don't state its totally untrue and made up ....  but never let the truth get in the way of a good smear campaign.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-vat-idUKKCN0V52W8

Please note the line that says ..

"Economics Commissioner Pierre Moscovici told a news conference that the executive European Commission's aim was to have a "definitive" VAT regime for the bloc, but noted that all decisions in this area were subject to national veto rights."


and

"A British government spokeswoman stressed there was no EU proposal to scrap zero rates and that London would veto it if there were. "Our position on this is clear," she said. "We will keep zero rates of VAT on certain goods and services we negotiated when we joined the European Community."

 

[Migalot]

What concerns me is the the EU is currently reviewing VAT and there have already been negative comments about our zero-rating. So, if Remain wins (please God, no), then I reckon we can look forward to VAT on food, medicine and childrens' clothes. And there won't be a thing we can do to stop it. 

Not a scare story, but a very real possibility.

Strange .... you state its not a scare story .. but you don't state its totally untrue and made up ....  but never let the truth get in the way of a good smear campaign.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-vat-idUKKCN0V52W8

Please note the line that says ..

"Economics Commissioner Pierre Moscovici told a news conference that the executive European Commission's aim was to have a "definitive" VAT regime for the bloc, but noted that all decisions in this area were subject to national veto rights."


and

"A British government spokeswoman stressed there was no EU proposal to scrap zero rates and that London would veto it if there were. "Our position on this is clear," she said. "We will keep zero rates of VAT on certain goods and services we negotiated when we joined the European Community."

 

The European Court of Justice on Thursday ruled that the UK’s longstanding reduced five per cent rate of VAT on energy-saving products was in breach of EU laws. So where's our veto on that then? What happens if a member country takes us to court over zero-rating?

In any event, I think it's highly likely that QMV will be introduced for taxation, if not in 2016, then within the next few years. It is, after all, what the EC wants:

"Some Member States do not think it desirable to extend qualified majority voting to taxation. This view is not shared by the European Commission, which considers that QMV is necessary in some areas of taxation."

Yes, I think that then of zero-rating is a real possibility as the EU heads towards a superstate and harmonised taxation. This referendum is not just about what the EU is now, but what direction it is headed.

Finally, I do not like the patronising "never let the truth get in the way of a good smear campaign". I'm not smearing anyone or anything, just stating what I believe to be a very plausible scenario. Am I allowed an opinion?

[LC0112G]

What concerns me is the the EU is currently reviewing VAT and there have already been negative comments about our zero-rating. So, if Remain wins (please God, no), then I reckon we can look forward to VAT on food, medicine and childrens' clothes. And there won't be a thing we can do to stop it. 

Not a scare story, but a very real possibility.

You coinveniently forget that changes to taxation is one of the areas that the UK veto applies.

Or put more concicely - your post is dangleberries.

[LC0112G]

The European Court of Justice on Thursday ruled that the UK’s longstanding reduced five per cent rate of VAT on energy-saving products was in breach of EU laws. So where's our veto on that then? What happens if a member country takes us to court over zero-rating?

In any event, I think it's highly likely that QMV will be introduced for taxation, if not in 2016, then within the next few years. It is, after all, what the EC wants:

"Some Member States do not think it desirable to extend qualified majority voting to taxation. This view is not shared by the European Commission, which considers that QMV is necessary in some areas of taxation."

Yes, I think that then of zero-rating is a real possibility as the EU heads towards a superstate and harmonised taxation. This referendum is not just about what the EU is now, but what direction it is headed.

Finally, I do not like the patronising "never let the truth get in the way of a good smear campaign". I'm not smearing anyone or anything, just stating what I believe to be a very plausible scenario. Am I allowed an opinion?

What part of Veto don't you understand? As long as HMG says No, it won't happen.

[Sir Tigger KC]

What concerns me is the the EU is currently reviewing VAT and there have already been negative comments about our zero-rating. So, if Remain wins (please God, no), then I reckon we can look forward to VAT on food, medicine and childrens' clothes. And there won't be a thing we can do to stop it. 

Not a scare story, but a very real possibility.

You coinveniently forget that changes to taxation is one of the areas that the UK veto applies.

Or put more concicely - your post is dangleberries.

And you obviously didn't read his post properly, where he pointed out that QMV might be applied to taxation.   

Personally, I think that national vetoes will be abolished eventually as they make the decision making process too unwieldy with 28 countries, and possibly 35 countries in the future. 

[LC0112G]

And you obviously didn't read his post properly, where he pointed out that QMV might be applied to taxation.   

Personally, I think that national vetoes will be abolished eventually as they make the decision making process too unwieldy with 28 countries, and possibly 35 countries in the future. 

Not without HMG agreeing to it. Again - what part of VETO is so difficult to understand?

[05omegav6]

And you obviously didn't read his post properly, where he pointed out that QMV might be applied to taxation.   

Personally, I think that national vetoes will be abolished eventually as they make the decision making process too unwieldy with 28 countries, and possibly 35 countries in the future. 

Not without HMG agreeing to it. Again - what part of VETO is so difficult to understand?

But if 27-34 other countries vote in the opposite direction, we're only going to be able to say no for so long...

[LC0112G]

And you obviously didn't read his post properly, where he pointed out that QMV might be applied to taxation.   

Personally, I think that national vetoes will be abolished eventually as they make the decision making process too unwieldy with 28 countries, and possibly 35 countries in the future. 

Not without HMG agreeing to it. Again - what part of VETO is so difficult to understand?

But if 27-34 other countries vote in the opposite direction, we're only going to be able to say no for so long...

No. Changes to EU Tax legislation requires unanimous agreement of all 28 countries. New countries entering the EU requires the unanimous agreement of all 28 countries.  Treaty changes require unanimous agreement of all 28 countries. Removing the VETO would need a treaty change.

If the UK says no, then it can't happen.