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[BazaJT]

"Never in the field of human conflict".....has the prospect of another world war looked so attractive when compared to the alternative offered here

[78bex]

D-Day is looming over the horizon, I was discussing the upcoming Euro vote with an elderly relative.
He seems lost in his own little world, but occasionally blurts out words of wisdom.
He`s a RN man of old & seems to be of the opinion; "We should get in close & start shellin em" 
 

[biggriffin]

D-Day is looming over the horizon, I was discussing the upcoming Euro vote with an elderly relative.
He seems lost in his own little world, but occasionally blurts out words of wisdom.
He`s a RN man of old & seems to be of the opinion; "We should get in close & start shelling   em" 

There in lyes a problem, with what we shall we shell'em, we don't have a frontline battleship, and bomber command doesn't exist, best ring barrack up and ask to borrow his.

[tigers_gonads]

D-Day is looming over the horizon, I was discussing the upcoming Euro vote with an elderly relative.
He seems lost in his own little world, but occasionally blurts out words of wisdom.
He`s a RN man of old & seems to be of the opinion; "We should get in close & start shelling   em" 

There in lyes a problem, with what we shall we shell'em, we don't have a frontline battleship, and bomber command doesn't exist, best ring barrack up and ask to borrow his.

Barak couldn't give a toss about this country because once upon a time, long long ago, we used to be a colonial power and he thinks we haven't grovelled enough for our sins yet 

Anyway, Trump will be coming over here a few days before D Day so maybe we could tap him up for a ship or 2 

[05omegav6]

Obama couldn't give a flying monkey opps about what we decide... don't forget whatever happens, he will be un employed in November 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Obama couldn't give a flying monkey opps about what we decide... don't forget whatever happens, he will be un employed in November 

And we'd be better off if Trump gets in as he clearly likes populist politics and has already said he'd do a quick trade deal.  Hillary on the other hand is a career politician who just wants to maintain the status quo, so to the back of the queue you naughty Brits! 

[Varche]

Is it this Donald Trump you are talking about?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36478957/meryl-streeps-impression-of-donald-trump-is-pretty-hilarious

[pscocoa]

One thing that is bothering me about this whole referendum issue is why if it is deemed to be so bad for the country that the agreement to have referendum ended up in the Tory manifesto in the first place.

As one assumes that it got put in there after considerable debate to find now that all those who see themselves voting "out" are made out to be simpletons for not understanding the economic issues.

So it may have been a sop to retain UKIP defectors but if it was so bad for the economy why reserve all the vitriol for out voters now - a choice was offered.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The Tories were losing members and voters to UKIP in huge numbers. The promise of a referendum coupled with large scale electoral fraud (so far, allegedly) stemmed the flow and got Cameron back into Number 10.
He was between a rock and a hard place, and this was his way out. He is now doing the only thing he knows how to do, to get things back to his vision of normal.
A huge gamble, yes. But if he hadn't taken it he would have been history by now.

[STEMO]

The Tories were losing members and voters to UKIP in huge numbers. The promise of a referendum coupled with large scale electoral fraud (so far, allegedly) stemmed the flow and got Cameron back into Number 10.
He was between a rock and a hard place, and this was his way out. He is now doing the only thing he knows how to do, to get things back to his vision of normal.
A huge gamble, yes. But if he hadn't taken it he would have been history by now.

Whatever happened to putting the interests of your country before personal ambition?

[biggriffin]

The Tories were losing members and voters to UKIP in huge numbers. The promise of a referendum coupled with large scale electoral fraud (so far, allegedly) stemmed the flow and got Cameron back into Number 10.
He was between a rock and a hard place, and this was his way out. He is now doing the only thing he knows how to do, to get things back to his vision of normal.
A huge gamble, yes. But if he hadn't taken it he would have been history by now.

Whatever happened to putting the interests of your country before personal ambition?

All politics is now days is self, and building ones own vested interest, its called freck you jack politics..
Politicians do it for themselves not the country, look at what "tony" "el Gordo" all earn now.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The Tories were losing members and voters to UKIP in huge numbers. The promise of a referendum coupled with large scale electoral fraud (so far, allegedly) stemmed the flow and got Cameron back into Number 10.
He was between a rock and a hard place, and this was his way out. He is now doing the only thing he knows how to do, to get things back to his vision of normal.
A huge gamble, yes. But if he hadn't taken it he would have been history by now.

Whatever happened to putting the interests of your country before personal ambition?

A rare thing these days. Imo Farage did just that at the EU Parliament today. He made a speech telling them that their project was doomed to fail. Said that he hoped this would be the last time he was there to speak, then said "Im going out now, I may be some time". And walked out. 

[Nick W]

One thing that is bothering me about this whole referendum issue is why if it is deemed to be so bad for the country that the agreement to have referendum ended up in the Tory manifesto in the first place.

As one assumes that it got put in there after considerable debate to find now that all those who see themselves voting "out" are made out to be simpletons for not understanding the economic issues.

So it may have been a sop to retain UKIP defectors but if it was so bad for the economy why reserve all the vitriol for out voters now - a choice was offered.

The real purpose of the Tory party for the last twenty odd years is to elect a new leader every few years. The referendum will give them an excuse to do that whatever the actual result.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The Tories were losing members and voters to UKIP in huge numbers. The promise of a referendum coupled with large scale electoral fraud (so far, allegedly) stemmed the flow and got Cameron back into Number 10.
He was between a rock and a hard place, and this was his way out. He is now doing the only thing he knows how to do, to get things back to his vision of normal.
A huge gamble, yes. But if he hadn't taken it he would have been history by now.

Whatever happened to putting the interests of your country before personal ambition?

A rare thing these days. Imo Farage did just that at the EU Parliament today. He made a speech telling them that their project was doomed to fail. Said that he hoped this would be the last time he was there to speak, then said "Im going out now, I may be some time". And walked out. 

Captain Oates said it better.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Whatever happened to putting the interests of your country before personal ambition?

A rare thing these days. Imo Farage did just that at the EU Parliament today. He made a speech telling them that their project was doomed to fail. Said that he hoped this would be the last time he was there to speak, then said "Im going out now, I may be some time". And walked out. 

Captain Oates said it better.

He'll look pretty silly if the vote is to remain and he has to go back.