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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: STEMO on 22 February 2022, 19:48:23
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There's a deafening silence about events in Eastern Europe, cat got yer tongues?
By my reckoning, Vlad is laughing his cock off. He has spent these last few years, since the annexation of Crimea, making Russia shock proof with regards to financial sanctions. His foreign reserves amount to over £6 billion dollars, with very little in dollar denominations. It's mostly gold and a good whack of the Chinese Renminbi.
As for suspending Nordstream 2, well, no gas and, therefore, no revenue has flowed either way yet. It's Europe that will suffer if the gas is stopped.
There's not much at all the west can do to hurt him. He knows it, we know it.
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The Russian stock market, the MOEX, dropped by over 10% yesterday, opened 6% down this morning. That's a big hit. But, by close of play, it was up 1.5%, so a very short, sharp shock. Oil is nearing $100 a barrel, and guess who'll profit from that?
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The Saudis...
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The Saudis...
Russia produces more.
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Not for us they don't.
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Not for us they don't.
God, you're hard work. If you've got nothing constructive to add, shut up.
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/1100591/russia-main-crude-oil-export-destinations/
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I don't fickin care who buys Russia's oil. I never said anything about who buys Russia's oil. Someone does, so they make lots of money when the price goes up. Can you actually see that?
It's only one part of the situation, one which you chose to nitpick on for whatever reason you keep doing it, thread after thread.
Which is nice ::)
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My point was that they don't care about financial sanctions because they will always be able to move cash through China.
Ukraine wants to become part of the EU, presumably for financial benefit, and Nato presumably for defence from Russian aggression... (not sure how that works because they will be the front line).
Invading Ukraine protects Crimea and the Russian Black Sea access. Holding gas to ransom is a moot point as all the countries that rely on it will have to buy it regardless... Restricting Russian supply is obviously going to drive prices up because it will increase demand from gas produced elsewhere.
If this were a game of Chess, then Putin has called Check and whatever the next two moves, he will be calling Check Mate. Nato/EU/Bozzle/Sippy Cup can call for a time out, but they can't change the board...
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My point was that they don't care about financial sanctions because they will always be able to move cash through China.
Ukraine wants to become part of the EU, presumably for financial benefit, and Nato presumably for defence from Russian aggression... (not sure how that works because they will be the front line).
Invading Ukraine protects Crimea and the Russian Black Sea access. Holding gas to ransom is a moot point as all the countries that rely on it will have to buy it regardless... Restricting Russian supply is obviously going to drive prices up because it will increase demand from gas produced elsewhere.
If this were a game of Chess, then Putin has called Check and whatever the next two moves, he will be calling Check Mate. Nato/EU/Bozzle/Sippy Cup can call for a time out, but they can't change the board...
No, that wasn't your point at all. Backtracking, as usual.
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China bought almost half of Russian oil exports in 2020. Stands to reason that will continue regardless.
The only question is how much Putin wants to control Ukraine and how much We want to stop him.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/k5Y7gs0m/Screenshot-2022-02-22-212610.png)
As you can see from the chart the Ruble has weakened massively in recent years, which has two effects, imports that have to be purchased in foreign currency are much more expensive, but Russian exports, notably oil & gas which are priced in US dollars have become a huge windfall for Uncle Vlad!
Uncle Vlad of course has spent this windfall expanding and modernising Russia's military in recent years, while Western countries have progressively cut their military budgets to the bone! ::)
I lived in Vietnam briefly in 2009/10 and all the beach resorts then were full of Russians on their holibobs. When I went back for a visit in 2016/17, there were far fewer Ruskies about, and there were some great deals at the beach resort hotels who were desperate for customers due to the lack of Russians who weren't coming as their foreign holidays had become much more expensive.
Maybe they were going to Crimea instead! ;)
Although I wouldn't fancy Yalta much for some winter sunshine! ;D
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As an aside, did anyone else think he looked deranged at that staged meeting with his chiefs.
Maybe he is auditioning for the next Bond villain.
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“From a Siberian oil field it is estimated that every $10 increase in the price of oil delivers an extra $60 m/day in tax revenues to the Russian govt”
From an article in The Times today.
In contrast the British govt has turned away from the oil and gas industry in it's green insanity, and is imposing tax increases on the population instead.
The latest little bit of madness I saw recently was that the construction industry will no longer be allowed to use red diesel to curb emissions. No matter that hydrogen or electric excavators or other plant are not available, so they just have to use white diesel and suck it up....
Tough on small operators, but I guess Mr Sunak will be happy with the increased revenue. ::)
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They did that to marine operators about twelve years ago. And then offered a rebate on any fuel not used for propulsion. The then Customs and Excise decided that 40% was reasonable amount for heating/cooking/electrical. Fuel on the Broads doubled overnight.
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Peter Hitchens gives a very interesting viewpoint on this in the Mail today.
Basically, its Bill Clintons fault. When the USSR collapsed the west should have celebrated that the forces of Democracy had won and should have assisted them and embraced them as friends.
Instead the Clinton administration took the opportunity to expand NATO* across eastern Europe.
They were warned that this would result in the scenario we have now, but took no notice.
* NATO was set up to counter the threat from the USSR. ::)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10540829/PETER-HITCHENS-blame-arrogant-foolish-West-Ukraine-crisis.html
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Donald Trump describes Putins aggression towards Ukraine as genius, wonderful and savvy.
Hmm might expect a Putin crony to say that but a former US president?
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Well, Donald does have a knack for saying things out loud ;D
Putin is in a position to do whatever he wants. And there is nothing anyone can actually do about it. Short of disappearing him.
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I've never really bought this line that it's all the fault of NATO expansion and the former soviet countries shouldn't have been allowed to join.
While Hitchens is right in a sense that the West should have fostered friendly relations with Russia, you cannot blame countries like Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania for wanting to join NATO after 50 odd years of often brutal suppression under the Russian boot during the USSR years. As democratic independent sovereign states they should be free to join or leave what ever international organisation that they choose.
I'd argue that things would be even worse now had those countries not joined NATO, as it's possible Putin would be having a go at them as well. He seems hell bent on recreating some kind Russian empire/USSR. He's taken South Ossetia and Abkhazia from Georgia in a short but brutal war, Crimea from Ukraine and now the Donbass also from Ukraine, and who knows what he plans next. :-\
I think it's unlikely that he'll have a go at the Baltics though, precisely because they are members of NATO.
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It's a two way street... They're just as keen to stop there own from experiencing a better way of life than bread queues and gulags. Besides there were two sides pissing into the Cold War bucket. And the Russian people always lose.
The great socialist experiment always fails, but they're too stubborn to admit it.
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I've never really bought this line that it's all the fault of NATO expansion and the former soviet countries shouldn't have been allowed to join.
While Hitchens is right in a sense that the West should have fostered friendly relations with Russia, you cannot blame countries like Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania for wanting to join NATO after 50 odd years of often brutal suppression under the Russian boot during the USSR years. As democratic independent sovereign states they should be free to join or leave what ever international organisation that they choose.
I'd argue that things would be even worse now had those countries not joined NATO, as it's possible Putin would be having a go at them as well. He seems hell bent on recreating some kind Russian empire/USSR. He's taken South Ossetia and Abkhazia from Georgia in a short but brutal war, Crimea from Ukraine and now the Donbass also from Ukraine, and who knows what he plans next. :-\
I think it's unlikely that he'll have a go at the Baltics though, precisely because they are members of NATO.
I don't think he'd dare.....but. :-X
He has a strong sense of the old USSR and can see himself as a 'great leader' in the Russian history books to come.
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
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Donald Trump describes Putins aggression towards Ukraine as genius, wonderful and savvy.
Hmm might expect a Putin crony to say that but a former US president?
That show of cretinism needs to be written down by the Democrats and plastered over every billboard in America come the next election. Pictures of Donald and Vlad having a cheeseburger together whilst discussing how they're going to divvy up Eastern Europe.
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
An old uncle of mine suffered with Parkinson's. He was never still and shook like a shitting dog most of the time.
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Not for us they don't.
God, you're hard work. If you've got nothing constructive to add, shut up.
You've just asked for opinions. Al has just given you his. ::) ::)
You're very moody today, old lad. :D ;D
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I've never really bought this line that it's all the fault of NATO expansion and the former soviet countries shouldn't have been allowed to join.
While Hitchens is right in a sense that the West should have fostered friendly relations with Russia, you cannot blame countries like Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania for wanting to join NATO after 50 odd years of often brutal suppression under the Russian boot during the USSR years. As democratic independent sovereign states they should be free to join or leave what ever international organisation that they choose.
I'd argue that things would be even worse now had those countries not joined NATO, as it's possible Putin would be having a go at them as well. He seems hell bent on recreating some kind Russian empire/USSR. He's taken South Ossetia and Abkhazia from Georgia in a short but brutal war, Crimea from Ukraine and now the Donbass also from Ukraine, and who knows what he plans next. :-\
I think it's unlikely that he'll have a go at the Baltics though, precisely because they are members of NATO.
I think the reasoning is that if the west had behaved differently towards Russia after the USSR collapsed, recent history would be very different and a thug like Putin would never have had the opportunity to come to power.
Had things been very different and Russia became a friendly genuine democracy there wouldnt even be a need for NATO to exist.
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Not for us they don't.
God, you're hard work. If you've got nothing constructive to add, shut up.
You've just asked for opinions. Al has just given you his. ::) ::)
You're very moody today, old lad. :D ;D
I'm not moody. And that was yesterday.
Go and read your old Playboy magazines. Well, look at the pictures anyway. ;D
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
An old uncle of mine suffered with Parkinson's. He was never still and shook like a shitting dog most of the time.
Yes, the RE teacher at school had Parkinsons. We called him The Shaking Budda! ;D
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
An old uncle of mine suffered with Parkinson's. He was never still and shook like a shitting dog most of the time.
Yes, the RE teacher at school had Parkinsons. We called him The Shaking Budda! ;D
You went to an Indian school? :o
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
An old uncle of mine suffered with Parkinson's. He was never still and shook like a shitting dog most of the time.
Yes, the RE teacher at school had Parkinsons. We called him The Shaking Budda! ;D
You went to an Indian school? :o
They're a diverse bunch in Dorsetshire :D
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
An old uncle of mine suffered with Parkinson's. He was never still and shook like a shitting dog most of the time.
Yes, the RE teacher at school had Parkinsons. We called him The Shaking Budda! ;D
You went to an Indian school? :o
Nope just a bog standard Comp..... That thought it was still a Grammar School and resented having to have thicko farm boys like me! ;D
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
An old uncle of mine suffered with Parkinson's. He was never still and shook like a shitting dog most of the time.
Yes, the RE teacher at school had Parkinsons. We called him The Shaking Budda! ;D
You went to an Indian school? :o
They're a diverse bunch in Dorsetshire :D
We are. :)
There was a Chinese lad at school who we nicknamed Chingers. He didn't seem to mind... ::) :D
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
An old uncle of mine suffered with Parkinson's. He was never still and shook like a shitting dog most of the time.
Yes, the RE teacher at school had Parkinsons. We called him The Shaking Budda! ;D
You went to an Indian school? :o
They're a diverse bunch in Dorsetshire :D
We are. :)
There was a Chinese lad at school who we nicknamed Chingers. He didn't seem to mind... ::) :D
He probabry couldn't understand you ;D
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With the exception of one coloured kid both my schools were 100% white.
No trans identifying kids either.....just boys that were boys and girls that had a vagina.
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
An old uncle of mine suffered with Parkinson's. He was never still and shook like a shitting dog most of the time.
Yes, the RE teacher at school had Parkinsons. We called him The Shaking Budda! ;D
You went to an Indian school? :o
They're a diverse bunch in Dorsetshire :D
We are. :)
There was a Chinese lad at school who we nicknamed Chingers. He didn't seem to mind... ::) :D
He probabry couldn't understand you ;D
Initially I put this down to poor spelling, but on reflection it is quite witty. ::) :)
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
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Funny you mentioning that I saw him tonight on the news walking & he looked to be having difficulty with his coordination, which would fit in with a stroke.
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
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Funny you mentioning that I saw him tonight on the news walking & he looked to be having difficulty with his coordination, which would fit in with a stroke.
I saw him at a lectern fiddling with a pen using both hands with no problems at all. We can all wish, but I very much doubt there's anything wrong with his hands. His brain is a different matter.
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
An old uncle of mine suffered with Parkinson's. He was never still and shook like a shitting dog most of the time.
Yes, the RE teacher at school had Parkinsons. We called him The Shaking Budda! ;D
You went to an Indian school? :o
They're a diverse bunch in Dorsetshire :D
We are. :)
There was a Chinese lad at school who we nicknamed Chingers. He didn't seem to mind... ::) :D
He probabry couldn't understand you ;D
Initially I put this down to poor spelling, but on reflection it is quite witty. ::) :)
I often throw stuff in like that. Nobody usually notices :)
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I saw some pictures of the Russian soldiers on Twitter a couple of days ago.
We probably have an impression that they are all big hard blokes, but these guys looked like skinny 18 year olds. ::)
The tweet was basically saying that morale is very low, which is not surprising seeing as the poor buggers have been camping in the forests for weeks in freezing temperatures, and I'd think a fair few are wondering what the hell they are doing and why? :-\
As the song about the Vietnam war went.... The average age of the combat soldier was n n n nineteen!
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Conscripts do not make happy fighters.
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Conscripts do not make happy fighters.
or very willing ones
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To think that this could be stopped with tinned soup and bread...
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
It always is when he walks - apparently its a KGB thing, trained to keep one arm and hand able to draw a firearm with minimal movement required
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Donald vs Sippy Cup on the conflict between Nato and Russia (https://youtu.be/YRtZld1m7kY)
For the record, Donald's piece was filmed at a summit in Brussels in 2018. Doesn't make him wrong though.
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
It always is when he walks - apparently its a KGB thing, trained to keep one arm and hand able to draw a firearm with minimal movement required
Well they say that Russia has been like the Wild West since the fall of the USSR. :)
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Yeltsin did that ,but no one seemed bothered at the time. He was just an old pisshead. Not worth worrying about apparently.
Seems a bit short sighted now. ::)
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Yeltsin did that ,but no one seemed bothered at the time. He was just an old pisshead. Not worth worrying about apparently.
Seems a bit short sighted now. ::)
I seem to recall it was a good day when he could walk at all. ;D
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Donald vs Sippy Cup on the conflict between Nato and Russia (https://youtu.be/YRtZld1m7kY)
For the record, Donald's piece was filmed at a summit in Brussels in 2018. Doesn't make him wrong though.
Surely that should read 'Fat, cowardly, orange traitor v sippy cup' ::)
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Donald vs Sippy Cup on the conflict between Nato and Russia (https://youtu.be/YRtZld1m7kY)
For the record, Donald's piece was filmed at a summit in Brussels in 2018. Doesn't make him wrong though.
Surely that should read 'Fat, cowardly, orange traitor v sippy cup' ::)
Possibly. If you respond to 'Hilary'... ::)
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Donald vs Sippy Cup on the conflict between Nato and Russia (https://youtu.be/YRtZld1m7kY)
For the record, Donald's piece was filmed at a summit in Brussels in 2018. Doesn't make him wrong though.
Surely that should read 'Fat, cowardly, orange traitor v sippy cup' ::)
Possibly. If you respond to 'Hilary'... ::)
Nothing to do with Hilary, just a fair description of the ex- president. ::)
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Well, they're in. Lot's of rhetoric from western leaders, but I can't see there's that much they can do without it severely depressing our economies.
China will be watching closely.
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Oil up above $102, fill up quick.
Oh wait.....queues at fuel stations....don't fill up quick.
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Have you got your grab bag sorted? Might be behind all the rice, beans and pasta!
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Both of ours filled up on Monday had 5p of a litre coupons from our Morrisons home Delivery, so that should give me a combined mileage of around 700 miles , enough for a couple of months.
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The thought of a war that could quickly see millions of deaths as in the 20th century is absolutely terrifying. I personally am against man’s violence on this scale knowing what has gone before.
However, there is now only one way to stop a war monger. No words will stop Putin, as there where no words that could stop Hitler. It IS military action by the international community, with a hard strike on key Russian targets; the full force of the might that together the NATO have. Strike him now and heavily before he follows his gamble that the West will do nothing beyond mouthing off words.
China, I believe, will hold back as it’s economy relies heavily on trade with the Western nations. It may have postured with Putin using words, but when it comes to China risking so much when supporting a man like Putin, I do not think they will do any more. I hope not anyway! :o
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Lizzie. I refer you to my previous post . President Xi stated to his assembled minions that 2022 is the year that Taiwan comes back into the fold. That is 100% going to happen .
If the West intervenes with say military strikes on Russian cities/targets Putin has said that he will unleash unimaginable response. Presumably laser strikes from space etc. in other words not weapons we are used to.
As an aside, I wonder if we have a room full of techno geeks doing Cyber attacks on Russian banks , power stations , gas valves and so on. How long could the West last with internet under sea cables ripped up, power stations not generating, air traffic control not working?
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Be under no illusion the events of this morning will effect our comfortable 21st century life in a way that we could never imagine .
The disruption that will follow direct or indirect involvement in this war will be far reaching and above all , lengthy .
The dogs off the leash now and all efforts to inflict damage to each others economy will commence .
Putin's declaration to the world this AM was chilling .
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He has called the bluff of NATO. They should have had a swift, precise response prepared, but little more than words thus far. The Baltic states could easily be next if we do nothing, but Vlad's statement suggest that he has called Check Mate. Not sure that blowing up the board will achieve anything.
What does Ukraine have that Russia requires so badly? And if we let them have it? Sounds like NATO et Al don't want to find out what 'nothing ever experienced' means, even if that costs the sacrifice of Ukraine.
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Putin plays an excellent game of poker. He is projecting the persona of an unpredictable madman, which is exactly what he wants the west to believe. If the west thought he was cold and calculating, they might have some chance of influencing events. I mean, surely a man who professes to love Mother Russia so much wouldn't want to see it turned to ash? But a lunatic might not care, and be willing to take that chance. Who knows? Certainly not Biden or Johnson.
I believe his main aim in taking Ukraine is to kill any possibility of it joining NATO and, I have admit, I can see his point of view. We have caused this paranoia by ever expanding our sphere of influence and, when we are shown the hawkish, bitter old Russian generals baying for blood, we have to remember that paranoia exists in the west too.
So, a game of economic warfare for now (except for poor Ukraine). A lot of name calling but, hopefully, no fatal errors on either side.
There's going to be a run on popcorn.
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A quick rummage suggests that Ukraine produces a significantly large amount of grain.
I wonder if, in spite of the bluster and bravado, this simply boils down to food?
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A quick rummage suggests that Ukraine produces a significantly large amount of grain.
I wonder if, in spite of the bluster and bravado, this simply boils down to food?
Russia is the largest wheat exporter in the world or, at least, one of the largest.
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Russia is #2, Ukraine #5...
Which means that Vlad has invaded Ukraine simply because he could. And that can never be good.
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Russia is #2, Ukraine #5...
Which means that Vlad has invaded Ukraine simply because he could. And that can never be good.
Like I said, to stop it joining NATO. Would you like Russian missiles in Wales? ::)
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Russia is #2, Ukraine #5...
Which means that Vlad has invaded Ukraine simply because he could. And that can never be good.
Like I said, to stop it joining NATO. Would you like Russian missiles in Wales? ::)
Then why not Finland or Moldova?
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Yeltsin did that ,but no one seemed bothered at the time. He was just an old pisshead. Not worth worrying about apparently.
Seems a bit short sighted now. ::)
I seem to recall it was a good day when he could walk at all. ;D
When he was able to walk he would usually pinch a female arse or two on his way to the vodka bottle. :D ;D
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Russia is #2, Ukraine #5...
Which means that Vlad has invaded Ukraine simply because he could. And that can never be good.
Like I said, to stop it joining NATO. Would you like Russian missiles in Wales? ::)
Then why not Finland or Moldova?
Dear me ::)
Russia already has troops stationed in Moldova. And Finland? Jeez ::)
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We really have no need to worry.
Diversity and inclusion along with pronoun use will save the world. :-X :-\
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10544593/MI5-MI6-officers-told-think-white-privilege-avoid-using-words-like-strong.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10544593/MI5-MI6-officers-told-think-white-privilege-avoid-using-words-like-strong.html)
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There have been moves in both Finland and Sweden to join NATO, and I suspect todays actions by Russia make this much more likely.
Both used to be staunchly neutral, with Finland operating MiG aircraft until the mid 1990s. However, in recent years both have participated in bilateral exercises with NATO member countries, including allowing overflights of US reconnaissance and bomber aircraft. Neither country now operate any Russian/Soviet hardware AFAIK, and are participating with western/NATO countries more and more.
But even if you are a member of NATO, you are going to have to fend off the opening attacks on your own, using your own armed forces under your own sovereign control. Invoking Article 5 is going to take days to have any real effect regardless of who you are. Sad as it is, Ukraine aren't in NATO, and can't depend on the external assistance NATO cover would provide.
However, any incursions into Poland, the Baltics, Romania or Bulgaria which are NATO countries will provoke direct military action. We've just got to hope Putin understands that.
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We really have no need to worry.
Diversity and inclusion along with pronoun use will save the world. :-X :-\
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10544593/MI5-MI6-officers-told-think-white-privilege-avoid-using-words-like-strong.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10544593/MI5-MI6-officers-told-think-white-privilege-avoid-using-words-like-strong.html)
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Easy to spot a spy now they're dressed in pink.
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I knew this would happen, as soon as they killed off Bond the flood gates were always going to open
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I knew this would happen, as soon as they killed off Bond the flood gates were always going to open
This warrants a ;D
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Not sure if this invasion could have been avoided but I think it became more likely when the doddery senile kiddie sniffer replaced the fat orange pussy grabber.
Putin and his mate Winnie the Pooh view the west as effeminate and soft. They don't stand around wringing their hands over diversity and inclusion, BLM, and gender identity in Moscow.
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
An old uncle of mine suffered with Parkinson's. He was never still and shook like a shitting dog most of the time.
Yes, the RE teacher at school had Parkinsons. We called him The Shaking Budda! ;D
It comes in many different forms, my sister has it but no shakes just everything slowed down
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
An old uncle of mine suffered with Parkinson's. He was never still and shook like a shitting dog most of the time.
Yes, the RE teacher at school had Parkinsons. We called him The Shaking Budda! ;D
It comes in many different forms, my sister has it but no shakes just everything slowed down
This is what happened to my uncle later on when they increased his medication. It cut down on the tremors but at the expense of being able to move any part of his body very much.
He just sat in his chair after that until the grim reaper came for him. :-\
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
An old uncle of mine suffered with Parkinson's. He was never still and shook like a shitting dog most of the time.
Yes, the RE teacher at school had Parkinsons. We called him The Shaking Budda! ;D
It comes in many different forms, my sister has it but no shakes just everything slowed down
My aunt, who has sadly just died, had that variation too. No shaking at all, just had great difficulty in stringing words together and concentrating. As for my neighbour, the poor sod just can't keep still.
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The other thing is that there have been suggestions that he is not well and has Parkinson's disease. I noticed last night on the news, that as he walked across a room to a podium his right arm was completely still, as if he has had a stroke or something. :-\
Maybe he thinks time is not on his side....
An old uncle of mine suffered with Parkinson's. He was never still and shook like a shitting dog most of the time.
Yes, the RE teacher at school had Parkinsons. We called him The Shaking Budda! ;D
It comes in many different forms, my sister has it but no shakes just everything slowed down
My aunt, who has sadly just died, had that variation too. No shaking at all, just had great difficulty in stringing words together and concentrating. As for my neighbour, the poor sod just can't keep still.
Neither variant sounds much fun so we must enjoy ourselves while we can. :-\ :y
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Not sure if this invasion could have been avoided but I think it became more likely when the doddery senile kiddie sniffer replaced the fat orange pussy grabber.
Putin and his mate Winnie the Pooh view the west as effeminate and soft. They don't stand around wringing their hands over diversity and inclusion, BLM, and gender identity in Moscow.
Donald would have told his mate Putin he was welcome to Ukraine, and Europe for that matter, and offered him the weapons to do it with. He is a burger munching coward.
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Not sure if this invasion could have been avoided but I think it became more likely when the doddery senile kiddie sniffer replaced the fat orange pussy grabber.
Putin and his mate Winnie the Pooh view the west as effeminate and soft. They don't stand around wringing their hands over diversity and inclusion, BLM, and gender identity in Moscow.
Donald would have told his mate Putin he was welcome to Ukraine, and Europe for that matter, and offered him the weapons to do it with. He is a burger munching coward.
Well, he wouldn't have hesitated to restrict Russian access to Swift because he's reliant on Russian oil imports... A situation directly attributed to Sippy Cup policies.
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Not sure if this invasion could have been avoided but I think it became more likely when the doddery senile kiddie sniffer replaced the fat orange pussy grabber.
Putin and his mate Winnie the Pooh view the west as effeminate and soft. They don't stand around wringing their hands over diversity and inclusion, BLM, and gender identity in Moscow.
Donald would have told his mate Putin he was welcome to Ukraine, and Europe for that matter, and offered him the weapons to do it with. He is a burger munching coward.
Well, he wouldn't have hesitated to restrict Russian access to Swift because he's reliant on Russian oil imports... A situation directly attributed to Sippy Cup policies.
Directly attributed? By who?
I think he would have hid in his bunker scoffing MacDonalds cheeseburgers ;D
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But, the fact is, the useless bastard was voted out, so it doesn't matter.
Oh...wait...the vote was stolen :o :o ;D
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But, the fact is, the useless bastard was voted out, so it doesn't matter.
Oh...wait...the vote was stolen :o :o ;D
It might have been.... it might not have been. :-\
None of us really knows the truth either way. ::)
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But, the fact is, the useless bastard was voted out, so it doesn't matter.
Oh...wait...the vote was stolen :o :o ;D
It might have been.... it might not have been. :-\
None of us really knows the truth either way. ::)
Numerous law court actions proved there’s was no truth in Trumps claims, and even Republicans now accept the talk of stolen votes was rubbish.
I cannot believe this type of discussion is still taking place when there are far more important factual and threatening actions happening. ::)
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I think despite his obvious faults, Trump was unpredictable which made Putin, / Chinks / little rocket man etc. nervous of doing anything radical.
He didnt really think or act like a politician so they couldnt read him which might have kept things in check to an extent.
Now Biden is there its obvious to anyone who isnt a dyed in the wool Democrat that he is a daft old bugger who hardly knows what day of the week it is.
He is never going to present serious problems to any of them.
Couple that with Boris, Macron, the new kid on the block in Germany and Ursula Van wasername heading up the EU- the West doesnt have any leaders who Russia or China should get too worried about.
Andrew Neil wrote a good piece in the Wail about the situation today.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10553185/ANDREW-NEIL-West-impotent-long.html
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The US was self-sufficient for fuel.
Sippy Cup decided, in the name of environmental goodness to import oil from, amongst other places.
Now he cannot invoke restrictions on Russian international Bank transfers for two reasons...
1. He would then be unable to pay the Russians for their oil.
2. The Russians would cut the supply off if he tried. (arguably rendering point 1 moot).
Publically calling it a 'minor incursion' effectively gave Putin a green light, and the inability of Sippy Cup to go as far as required wrt sanctions suggests that he does not hold NATOs best interests in mind.
What Trump might or might not have done is irrelevant. Sanctions are currently our only weapon and should be used fully and swiftly to cripple Russia.
Once the next revolution dethrones Putin we can assist with rebuilding their economy.
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But, the fact is, the useless bastard was voted out, so it doesn't matter.
Oh...wait...the vote was stolen :o :o ;D
It might have been.... it might not have been. :-\
None of us really knows the truth either way. ::)
Numerous law court actions proved there’s was no truth in Trumps claims, and even Republicans now accept the talk of stolen votes was rubbish.
I cannot believe this type of discussion is still taking place when there are far more important factual and threatening actions happening. ::)
Yep I'm not going to get into that argument either as Trumpy is yesterdays man, and I've not made any claims about that election either. :-X
I'm just open minded to the possibility that something might have happened that's all. ;)
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If we're talking about Presidents, then the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy is the man of the moment and is showing all rest what leadership is all about! :y
I have to admit that when he was elected I chuckled at the news that the Ukrainians had elected a former comedian for their President, but cometh the hour cometh the man and in my book the guy's a bloody hero! This is his moving address to the Russian people as the Russian army rolled across the border into Ukraine on Thursday night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-zilnPtZ2M
Apparently the Americans offered to help evacuate him. He replied that he needed ammunition not a ride!
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If we're talking about Presidents, then the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy is the man of the moment and is showing all rest what leadership is all about! :y
I have to admit that when he was elected I chuckled at the news that the Ukrainians had elected a former comedian for their President, but cometh the hour cometh the man and in my book the guy's a bloody hero! This is his moving address to the Russian people as the Russian army rolled across the border into Ukraine on Thursday night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-zilnPtZ2M
Apparently the Americans offered to help evacuate him. He replied that he needed ammunition not a ride!
I doubt Boris or Starmer would be so keen. ::)
They breed them pretty tough in the East unlike the 'nancy boy' mentality we have here.
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Apparently American sanctions on Russian banks don't come into effect until 26th March! :o
That gives the Russians a full month to move their cash. It's just pathetic! >:(
I expect it's much the same for UK sanctions as well. :-\ ::)
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The US was self-sufficient for fuel.
Sippy Cup decided, in the name of environmental goodness to import oil from, amongst other places.
Now he cannot invoke restrictions on Russian international Bank transfers for two reasons...
1. He would then be unable to pay the Russians for their oil.
2. The Russians would cut the supply off if he tried. (arguably rendering point 1 moot).
Publically calling it a 'minor incursion' effectively gave Putin a green light, and the inability of Sippy Cup to go as far as required wrt sanctions suggests that he does not hold NATOs best interests in mind.
What Trump might or might not have done is irrelevant. Sanctions are currently our only weapon and should be used fully and swiftly to cripple Russia.
Once the next revolution dethrones Putin we can assist with rebuilding their economy.
Are you gonna tell us, or do we have to guess? ;D
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Apparently American sanctions on Russian banks don't come into effect until 26th March! :o
That gives the Russians a full month to move their cash. It's just pathetic! >:(
I expect it's much the same for UK sanctions as well. :-\ ::)
Sanctions won't work and Vlad will have figured any sanctions into his calculations. They will 'inconvenience' him and that's about it.
However, boots on the ground could start WW3. If push came to shove I reckon Putin would push the big red button.
No easy fix, sadly. :-\
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The US was self-sufficient for fuel.
Sippy Cup decided, in the name of environmental goodness to import oil from, amongst other places.
Now he cannot invoke restrictions on Russian international Bank transfers for two reasons...
1. He would then be unable to pay the Russians for their oil.
2. The Russians would cut the supply off if he tried. (arguably rendering point 1 moot).
Publically calling it a 'minor incursion' effectively gave Putin a green light, and the inability of Sippy Cup to go as far as required wrt sanctions suggests that he does not hold NATOs best interests in mind.
What Trump might or might not have done is irrelevant. Sanctions are currently our only weapon and should be used fully and swiftly to cripple Russia.
Once the next revolution dethrones Putin we can assist with rebuilding their economy.
Are you gonna tell us, or do we have to guess? ;D
When he signed the bill that included killing the Keystone pipeline dead...
The US went from being self sufficient to dependent upon Russian oil with the stroke of a pen.
As long as Sippy Cup and the Germans are dependent on Russian fuel they are unable to fully support any NATO action, be that economically or militarily.
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The thing that will affect Putin most is that Russia has been removed from the Eurovision song contest , I believe he was a very big fan..😂
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The thing that will affect Putin most is that Russia has been removed from the Eurovision song contest , I believe he was a very big fan..😂
Today Poland have refused to play Russia in their World Cup qualifier so it will be interesting to see how FIFA respond.
They should of course swiftly kick Russia out of the competition, but.... ::)
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The thing that will affect Putin most is that Russia has been removed from the Eurovision song contest , I believe he was a very big fan..😂
Today Poland have refused to play Russia in their World Cup qualifier so it will be interesting to see how FIFA respond.
They should of course swiftly kick Russia out of the competition, but.... ::)
And very importantly the usually pro-Russian Hungarian President has agreed to support UN sanctions against his friend. Also Turkey, whilst trying to broker a ceasefire, is talking of blocking the movement of Russian warships through to the Black Sea.
Another sign that things may be starting to go politically wrong for Putin, is not only global public opinion against him personally, but also fast growing protests in Russia itself. Obviously to protest in Russia is dangerous, but news is spreading fast amongst Russians, many who have family and friends in Ukraine, about exactly what Putin is doing which apparently is going down badly.
Now the Russians may be under the gosh of Putin and his cronies, but they do like revolutionary change. 1917 saw them get rid of a Tsar, then the fall of the Soviet Union was from within as that regime imploded. Putin is now pushing his luck, and will increasingly do so everyday that his invasion is slowed down, publicly spoken about, and as the Russian military losses become widespread knowledge. The days of a completely isolated population fed only state approved news is over. The internet, mobile phones, international news broadcasts, and just person to person communication in a far more “open” world is going to have a growing effect. At least I hope so, which I trust the West’s intelligence services will play on in many ways. ;)
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Abramovich has just given the Chelsea FC charitable trust "stewardship and care", of the club.
Not sure what that is supposed to achieve. It sounds like he still legally owns it, so it could still potentially be seized as an asset. :-\
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Biden is a W@n£er
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Apparently the Russian authorities have blocked Twitter and Facebook, obviously in an attempt to suppress the news about Putin's war on Ukraine in Russia.
I'd have thought that this will make the Russian people wonder even more what their government is up to. ??? :-\
Anyway blocks on internet services are easily* circumvented with VPN's, so I'm sure that the savvy will quickly cotton on.
* Well it was easy in Vietnam 12 years ago where Facebook was banned, maybe Ivan has more sophisticated blocking tools. :-\
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Apparently the Russian authorities have blocked Twitter and Facebook, obviously in an attempt to suppress the news about Putin's war on Ukraine in Russia.
I'd have thought that this will make the Russian people wonder even more what their government is up to. ??? :-\
Anyway blocks on internet services are easily* circumvented with VPN's, so I'm sure that the savvy will quickly cotton on.
* Well it was easy in Vietnam 12 years ago where Facebook was banned, maybe Ivan has more sophisticated blocking tools. :-\
Turning the lectric and interwebs off would be pretty efficient. And effective.
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Apparently the Russian authorities have blocked Twitter and Facebook, obviously in an attempt to suppress the news about Putin's war on Ukraine in Russia.
I'd have thought that this will make the Russian people wonder even more what their government is up to. ??? :-\
Anyway blocks on internet services are easily* circumvented with VPN's, so I'm sure that the savvy will quickly cotton on.
* Well it was easy in Vietnam 12 years ago where Facebook was banned, maybe Ivan has more sophisticated blocking tools. :-\
Turning the lectric and interwebs off would be pretty efficient. And effective.
I am sure that in a country the size of Russia that would be very difficult to achieve in practical terms, plus the hidden Opposition have ways that circumvent such measures. ;)
No, Putin’s internal, as well as external, political headache is just starting. His invasion may well result in many Ukrainian deaths, but for his army it will also cost much as they try to take cities against very spirited opposition. History has proved that is a very costly exercise. So at home he will have a lot of trouble to come when he is faced with the losses and isolation Russia is going to experience. We hope that anyway!
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I see Germany has finally come on board
Germany to send weapons to Ukraine in policy reversal
Germany on Saturday dramatically ramped up its backing for Ukraine's battle against Russia, approving weapons deliveries for Kyiv in a policy U-turn and agreeing to limit Moscow's access to the SWIFT interbank system.
"The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point in history. It threatens our entire post-war order," said Chancellor Olaf Scholz as his government approved the delivery of a huge batch of lethal weapons to Kyiv.
"In this situation, it is our duty to support Ukraine to the best of our ability in its defence against (Russian President) Vladimir Putin's invading army," said Scholz, stressing that Germany "stands closely by Ukraine's side".
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I see Germany has finally come on board
Germany to send weapons to Ukraine in policy reversal
Germany on Saturday dramatically ramped up its backing for Ukraine's battle against Russia, approving weapons deliveries for Kyiv in a policy U-turn and agreeing to limit Moscow's access to the SWIFT interbank system.
"The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point in history. It threatens our entire post-war order," said Chancellor Olaf Scholz as his government approved the delivery of a huge batch of lethal weapons to Kyiv.
"In this situation, it is our duty to support Ukraine to the best of our ability in its defence against (Russian President) Vladimir Putin's invading army," said Scholz, stressing that Germany "stands closely by Ukraine's side".
Better late than never.... ::)
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Indeed 5000 helmuts 👀 were never going to cut it😉
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Be interesting to see if Sippy Cup follows their example, but agree that's it's good that they have committed to the cause.
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The French have surrendered.
;D ;D ;D :D :D
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The Ities did it first. ;)
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I've seen reports on Twitter that 5000 contract servicemen (regulars) have mutinied in Belgorod, Russia and are refusing to go to Ukraine! :y
It is Twitter though.... ::) :-\
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I wonder if the Ukraine will get the Crimea back when this is all over?
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The French have surrendered.
;D ;D ;D :D :D
It doesn't matter as long as they are French...
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I've seen reports on Twitter that 5000 contract servicemen (regulars) have mutinied in Belgorod, Russia and are refusing to go to Ukraine! :y
It is Twitter though.... ::) :-\
Twitter is an upstanding bastion of truths, just whose truths is unclear, but truths nonetheless :D
Credit where it is due, it is about time someone turned off Faceachebook...
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So the Russians have invaded their neighbour and thousands of people are dying. NATO troops are being reinforced in Eastern Europe, the free world are applying sanctions on Russia, prominent Russians and their interests. Vladimir Putin has effectively threatened the West with nuclear war and any other European country that tries to join NATO with 'military consequences', and the head of Britain's MI6 security service has time to tweet out about LGBT+ stuff. Unreal... ::)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zDsx9MN8/MI6woketweet.png)
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I've seen reports on Twitter that 5000 contract servicemen (regulars) have mutinied in Belgorod, Russia and are refusing to go to Ukraine! :y
It is Twitter though.... ::) :-\
Twitter is an upstanding bastion of truths, just whose truths is unclear, but truths nonetheless :D
Credit where it is due, it is about time someone turned off Faceachebook...
;D ;D ;D ;D Yeah, not like the sites you visit at all ::)
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I would imagine all of these threats to the Russian financial system won't go unanswered. If you back a rat into a corner.......
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So the Russians have invaded their neighbour and thousands of people are dying. NATO troops are being reinforced in Eastern Europe, the free world are applying sanctions on Russia, prominent Russians and their interests. Vladimir Putin has effectively threatened the West with nuclear war and any other European country that tries to join NATO with 'military consequences', and the head of Britain's MI6 security service has time to tweet out about LGBT+ stuff. Unreal... ::)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zDsx9MN8/MI6woketweet.png)
That’s ridiculous, what a Prick!
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Short of setting up an aid no fly or else corridor, then universal sanctions are the answer. Full on now not taking effect some date in the future. Boycott anything Russian , mass protests outside Russian embassies before their staff are expelled. Sequester black money houses and use them for refugees.
Problem is that the rich non Russian folk would suffer if financial measures are taken.
I wonder if Ukranians could blow up Nord Stream 1 ? That would get some attention though I note Germany has changed its stance from hats to lethal weapon aid.
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So the Russians have invaded their neighbour and thousands of people are dying. NATO troops are being reinforced in Eastern Europe, the free world are applying sanctions on Russia, prominent Russians and their interests. Vladimir Putin has effectively threatened the West with nuclear war and any other European country that tries to join NATO with 'military consequences', and the head of Britain's MI6 security service has time to tweet out about LGBT+ stuff. Unreal... ::)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zDsx9MN8/MI6woketweet.png)
That’s ridiculous, what a Prick!
I assumed at first that it was a parody account, but it appears to be the actual head of MI6! M? ::)
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So the Russians have invaded their neighbour and thousands of people are dying. NATO troops are being reinforced in Eastern Europe, the free world are applying sanctions on Russia, prominent Russians and their interests. Vladimir Putin has effectively threatened the West with nuclear war and any other European country that tries to join NATO with 'military consequences', and the head of Britain's MI6 security service has time to tweet out about LGBT+ stuff. Unreal... ::)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zDsx9MN8/MI6woketweet.png)
What is the HM bit?
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So the Russians have invaded their neighbour and thousands of people are dying. NATO troops are being reinforced in Eastern Europe, the free world are applying sanctions on Russia, prominent Russians and their interests. Vladimir Putin has effectively threatened the West with nuclear war and any other European country that tries to join NATO with 'military consequences', and the head of Britain's MI6 security service has time to tweet out about LGBT+ stuff. Unreal... ::)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zDsx9MN8/MI6woketweet.png)
That’s ridiculous, what a Prick!
I assumed at first that it was a parody account, but it appears to be the actual head of MI6! M? ::)
Dame Judy would never have allowed it :D
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History month apparently
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History month apparently
That should set the cat amongst the pidgins...
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History month apparently
OFFS.
So we have black history month.
LGBTQRSQUVWXYZ history month.
Just to be fair will it be time for 'white working class history month' next?.... :-\ :-\ :-\ :-X
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We get enough privileges apparently ::)
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NATO needs to act sooner rather than later, take him on, as that’s what’s going to happen anyway soon imo.
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Lincolnshire police love to show how woke they are. :-\
I thought we were trying to use less electricity to save the world. Apparently not. :-X
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/lincoln-news/lincolnshires-top-cop-defends-lgbtq-6662172 (https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/lincoln-news/lincolnshires-top-cop-defends-lgbtq-6662172)
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Russia nuclear deterrent on high alert due to NATO threats.
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https://simpleflying.com/russian-airlines-are-banned-from-the-baltic-region/
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Is he crazy enough to push the big red button?
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https://simpleflying.com/russian-airlines-are-banned-from-the-baltic-region/
I think this old news as VDL announced that Russians are banned from EU airspace last night? :-\
They have to go a long way round now to head west. :y
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Possibly, but I thought it interesting that the Baltic states were ahead of them. Especially given where Kallingrad is ;)
Turkey is their last Euro route.
Incidentally, if they turn to China for everything, then that might mean less Chinesey shit flooding the markets here, which is no bad thing if it makes manufacturing more cost effective in the West.
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Possibly, but I thought it interesting that the Baltic states were ahead of them. Especially given where Kallingrad is ;)
Turkey is their last Euro route.
Incidentally, if they turn to China for everything, then that might mean less Chinesey shit flooding the markets here, which is no bad thing if it makes manufacturing more cost effective in the West.
Made in Hong Kong stamped on just about everything was common at one time.
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https://simpleflying.com/russian-airlines-are-banned-from-the-baltic-region/
I think this old news as VDL announced that Russians are banned from EU airspace last night? :-\
They have to go a long way round now to head west. :y
The EU don't control sovereign airspace. Each country is free to decide who it will let in. At the moment it seems France, Spain, Canada and the USA haven't banned Russian registered aircraft.
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https://simpleflying.com/russian-airlines-are-banned-from-the-baltic-region/
I think this old news as VDL announced that Russians are banned from EU airspace last night? :-\
They have to go a long way round now to head west. :y
The EU don't control sovereign airspace. Each country is free to decide who it will let in. At the moment it seems France, Spain, Canada and the USA haven't banned Russian registered aircraft.
France is moot if they have to route over northern Africa/Atlantic to get there... How long until Spain sign up?
Besides who controls/operates European ATC?
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Besides who controls/operates European ATC?
Eurocontrol for most of mainland Europe. But Eurocontrol only administer ATC for flights with valid flight plans. Each sovereign nation can reject a flight plan which crosses its Flight Information Region (FIR). If a flight enters an FIR without an accepted flight plan in the system, QRA is typically sent up to intercept and escort. If the flight then enters sovereign airspace, QRA will order the aircraft to land at a designated airport (usually Stansted in the UK). If the flight doesn't follow the instructions of QRA then it's unlikely to end well.
Sovereign airspace only extends to 12 miles from the coast of a country, whereas a FIR can extend out several hundred miles. A flight from Kalinigrad to Moscow can therefore file a flight plan and hug the coast of the Baltics (12 miles out) and fly down the gap to St Petersburg and then to Moscow. However the various FIR's it crosses could refuse to supply ATC services. There are also special rules for gaps like the Gibraltar straights.
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Putin has now placed his nuclear forces on "Special Alert" due to NATO's "aggression" towards Russia! :P :P ::) ::) >:(
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Putin has now placed his nuclear forces on "Special Alert" due to NATO's "aggression" towards Russia! :P :P ::) ::) >:(
Is this the grown up version of ' toys thrown out of the pram'? ::)
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Cmon Liz I posted that nine posts ago :o
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Cmon Liz I posted that nine posts ago :o
She is quite elderly. ::)
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Cmon Liz I posted that nine posts ago :o
So you did! ::) ;D ;D ;D
;)
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Cmon Liz I posted that nine posts ago :o
She is quite elderly. ::)
Charmer! ;D
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;D
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Taking sanctions further and how the fuel situations should be managed and why...
https://youtu.be/GUNvTJ3eriI
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Been lots of RAF activity in this area all day, very low & super fast.
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Been lots of RAF activity in this area all day, very low & super fast.
Two Typhoons out and back from Coningsby on an 8 hour CAP over the Baltics.
And 4 Typhoons returning from the USA to Coningsby (Red Flag 22-1 and China Lake)
6 F-35's departed Lakenheath headed to the Baltics. They've only got 7.
NATO is on as high an alert as I've known in 45 years of plane spotting. Constant airborne CAP including typically 4-6 tankers along the entire NATO/Soviet boarder, and stateside USAF/USMC units forward deployed in multiple places.
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I know of 2 lads who have been given 30 day notice letters :-\
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BP will sell it's stake in Russian oil firm Rosneft and reportedly will take a $25 billion hit! :o
Apparently Switzerland will impose sanctions on Russians and Russian banks tomorrow! This is huge, as I think they carried on doing business with the Germans all through WW2? Are they no longer officially neutral? :-\
Following Poland's refusal to play Russia in their upcoming World Cup qualifier, the English FA have said that England will not play Russia for the for-see-able future. FIFA have followed the IOC's example and said Russia can play under the name Union of Russia (or some such BS) and must play their 'home' games in other countries with no fans, anthems or flags. FIFA are pricks and should have just kicked Russia out of international football! >:( Let's hope that no country will be willing to host the 'Union of Russia' team and that no-one will be willing to play them! ::)
Poland has reported groups of Russian soldiers wearing civvies turning up at border posts requesting 'protection'. :-\
Apparently there are 11 Russian troop ships in the Black Sea heading for Odessa.... :-\
Imposing sanctions on Russia and providing military kit and humanitarian aid to the Ukrainians are all very well, but I wonder how long the Western world can sit by and watch this......... :-\
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Fair play to the Ukranians for putting up a stronger resistance than Putin/the Russians thought they would and respect to the Ukranian president for staying put and not having it on his toes when the US offered to get him out of there.Given the scenario[however unlikely] of mutually assured destruction is Putin mad enough to start throwing nukes about the place? If he is would his generals back him and allow it to happen or would they finally turn on him?
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In the event of both sides throwing nuclear missiles about, is everyone prepared with food, bottled water, something to repair windows with and a first aid kit?
Those people that snapped up defunct bunkers for “ mushroom growing “ or signed up for places in modern bunkers might just be sitting pretty.
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I know it's not a laughing matter, but ;D
https://twitter.com/i/status/1497736844779438081
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Watching 'When the wind blows' should be considered reasonable preparation.
As would moving out of Lundun.
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This gives an interesting insight into a fraction of the corruption and nepotism in and around Pootin .
Nothing new but to me it displays why Navalny is locked away by the regime , he seems an engaging guy .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipAnwilMncI
I think it's quite ironic that in Russia the circumstances of the revolution of 1917 are similar , albeit reversed .
" All animals are equal" ....
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This gives an interesting insight into a fraction of the corruption and nepotism in and around Pootin .
Nothing new but to me it displays why Navalny is locked away by the regime , he seems an engaging guy .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipAnwilMncI
I think it's quite ironic that in Russia the circumstances of the revolution of 1917 are similar , albeit reversed .
" All animals are equal" ....
I recently reread 1984 by George Orwell. The last time was about 20 years ago.
Mrs Opti has an old copy of Animal Farm which I shall read.....but it seems that some animals are more equal than others. :)
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Mrs Opti has an old copy of Animal Farm
I think I saw the "educational" video of that. Or was it not based on the book? It did have some right dirty cows in, from what I remember.
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Mrs Opti has an old copy of Animal Farm
I think I saw the "educational" video of that. Or was it not based on the book? It did have some right dirty cows in, from what I remember.
I think the Animal Farm you speak of was written by the well known Welsh author, and farmyard animal enthusiast, Ivor Biggun. :)
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Although from what I remember of the book when I had to do it at school, its to show that the idealism of communism doesn't work. And that true communism has never been tried anywhere in the world.
Or at least from what little I remember, as I was mostly badly hung over for english lessons, and what concentration I could muster was spent dreaming what I'd like to do to our horny english teacher....
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Mrs Opti has an old copy of Animal Farm
I think I saw the "educational" video of that. Or was it not based on the book? It did have some right dirty cows in, from what I remember.
I think the Animal Farm you speak of was written by the well known Welsh author, and farmyard animal enthusiast, Ivor Biggun. :)
He was hung like a donkey
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Mrs Opti has an old copy of Animal Farm
I think I saw the "educational" video of that. Or was it not based on the book? It did have some right dirty cows in, from what I remember.
I think the Animal Farm you speak of was written by the well known Welsh author, and farmyard animal enthusiast, Ivor Biggun. :)
Hey? I wrote no such thing ;D
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This gives an interesting insight into a fraction of the corruption and nepotism in and around Pootin .
Nothing new but to me it displays why Navalny is locked away by the regime , he seems an engaging guy .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipAnwilMncI
I think it's quite ironic that in Russia the circumstances of the revolution of 1917 are similar , albeit reversed .
" All animals are equal" ....
You may have glanced momentarily at the above link but I sat and watched all tonight and found it immensely enlightening and very interesting.
There is no doubt why Navalny was poisoned and then jailed .
It's lengthy , an hour plus , and dubbed but if you turn the speed down to 0.75 it's very watchable .
It shows the depths of Putin and the circle of Oligarch's corruption and greed in a most forensic manner and makes it a lot clearer why personal sanctions were levied on so many .
I thought the quote of Tolstoy's near the end summed the whole morass .
" The villains who robbed the people gathered together , recruited soldiers and judges to guard them , and are feasting " .
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(https://i.postimg.cc/d3BzmyCG/FAB-500.jpg)
An unexploded Russian FAB-500 bomb somewhere in Ukraine.
These are 500 kgs of high explosive that the Russians are currently lobbing in amongst residential apartment blocks. :(
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A colleguiy has a golf app thing that can tell how he has hit a golf ball to the nearest centimetre...
So how is it possible to accidentally cluster bomb apartment buildings? ???
Unless a civilian shooting pigeons from the roof constitutes a military target of course. :-X
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How it started. :)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zXWGJRDL/russianjet-before.jpg)
How it's going. ::)
(https://i.postimg.cc/W3R9cK5q/russianjet-after.jpg)
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What makes that /\ /\ /\ better is that this was the rescue chopper that they sent in to " rescue " the pilot .....
(https://i.ibb.co/QfgzhtK/FNBDPJOX0-AI5-T46.jpg)
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A Romanian air force MIG 'crashed' in the Black Sea a couple of days ago and a rescue helicopter sent also crashed killing all on board.
There was a report in the Express about it, but I haven't seen any other reports. Strange? ??? :-\
I imagine there's a lot of people with nervous trigger fingers around there right now, so I wonder what happened and remember that Romania is a NATO member. So maybe it was an accident or something else is being hushed up. :-\
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1574690/Romanian-fighter-missing-helicopter-crash-Ukraine-Russia-war-updates-world-war-3
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1500038514037202947
https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1500077852473049089/photo/1
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1500038514037202947
https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1500077852473049089/photo/1
I'm not going to share it as it's a bit grim, but there's lots of videos on Twitter of the captured crew of that SU24 that they downed today.
One dead, one alive.
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Well, that is one more Russian helicopter down:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60630352
Shame Putin wasn't on it, but poor misled, ignorant, young Russians :'( :'(
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Apparently these Russians used the lift to get up to the roof of an office block, somewhere in Ukraine.
(https://i.postimg.cc/d06F90T4/russians-in-lift.jpg)
The Ukrainians switched off the electricity trapping them in the lift. ;D
I don't know what happened next, but the CCTV picture is dated 03/03/22, Thursday. Maybe they are still there? :D 8)
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Apparently these Russians used the lift to get up to the roof of an office block, somewhere in Ukraine.
(https://i.postimg.cc/d06F90T4/russians-in-lift.jpg)
The Ukrainians switched off the electricity trapping them in the lift. ;D
I don't know what happened next, but the CCTV picture is dated 03/03/22, Thursday. Maybe they are still there? :D 8)
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Certainly hope so, dumb fu**s, basics always use the stairs.
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Open a door higher up, poor a few gallons of fuel down the shaft and drop a cocktail, job jobbed
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Anyone else thinking that this war will go on for years.? For sure the Russians cannot lose. They will control towns and cities and ultimately Kyiv. However if the bulk of the population do not want to be ruled by Moscow, then guerrilla war will be the order of the day for years maybe decades.
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Only way I can see out of that scenario is if some one (probably Russian generals) decide Vladolf,s time is up.
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Anyone else thinking that this war will go on for years.? For sure the Russians cannot lose. They will control towns and cities and ultimately Kyiv. However if the bulk of the population do not want to be ruled by Moscow, then guerrilla war will be the order of the day for years maybe decades.
Yes I think it will become Europe's Afghanistan or Syria. :(
I think the Russian's will lose...eventually...... as they cannot win. Britain, America and the rest of the West are already waging a proxy war against Russia and will step up their efforts to ensure that Putin fails.
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I agree, Putin cannot and must not see an advantage from this, as a matter of fact it is far more likely that he will be worse off now what with all the neighbouring countries shitting their selves and arming up as much as they can and the inevitable bulking up NATO will be deploying in said countries. This guy Putin is a fu(k:ng idiot.
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Anyone else thinking that this war will go on for years.? For sure the Russians cannot lose. They will control towns and cities and ultimately Kyiv. However if the bulk of the population do not want to be ruled by Moscow, then guerrilla war will be the order of the day for years maybe decades.
"For sure the Russians cannot lose." ergo you say that they will win .
Win what ?
Defeat the second biggest country in Europe with a population of 41 million people who vehemently do not wish to be Russian by using what ..circa 200 K troops that need to be R&R'd . Install a Police service akin to the one in Russia ...how many personel, and cost would that require .... for ever ?
And all the time each and every Ukrainian man and woman who can hold breath and an automatic assault weapon or Javalin is stood around every corner full of venom and hatred for what they have had stolen from them .
Never .
And as for Russia .
Their Military strategy and weaponary has been shown to be less than second rate and a significant % their soldiers lacking the will to fight on foreign soil.
The populace has become used to and familiar with western goods and a lifestyle to match . Some may yearn for the old USSR but I'd wager that a majority would prefer our lifestyle .
Human nature will kick in and alert their sixth sense that something is not quite right when they are shunned by the West and told that they face 15 years in prison if they do not echo the sentiments of the Presidents office .
And as for Putin , what will he have won when he is shunned by nearly all the civilised countries of the world , prevented from travelling freely and most likely being accused of war crimes and having a warrant issued for his arrest .
He will also see that his actions have actually galvanised the West into recognising Russia for what it actually is under his control , a unwelcome guest at the dinner table .
The cabal that surround him will watch their lifestyle collapse like a house of cards , be trapped in their motherland and having to drive or take the train to travel as all aircraft will be grounded due to non availability of parts and info.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg .
Yeah , that's a win . ;D
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I suspect, as its not quite going to plan, Vlad will eventually try to negotiate a ceasefire on the condition he officially gets Crimea and maybe the Eastern breakaway regions.
Obviously he'll start out with stupid demands about demilitarisation and that what remains can never join the West (NATO/EU etc), but they won't fly. If it drags on enough for the Ukrainian morale to flounder, then giving up areas that they had effectively already lost might be palatable to the Ukrainian public.
As others had said, its all backfired on Russia a bit, as Finland's public are now, after decades of wanting to be neutral, in favour of joining NATO. The Baltic states can also see their vulnerability. So Mother Russia is going to soon have NATO along every bit of it's western border.
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I don't think there will be any sort of compromise.
It seems to me that the aim to is to grind Russia into the ground and inflict a comprehensive defeat on them which will include eviction from the Donbass and Crimea.
In less than two weeks Putin has probably taken Russia back to the 1980's economically, and a proposed oil embargo would probably take them back to the 1960's.
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I don't think there will be any sort of compromise.
It seems to me that the aim to is to grind Russia into the ground and inflict a comprehensive defeat on them which will include eviction from the Donbass and Crimea.
In less than two weeks Putin has probably taken Russia back to the 1980's economically, and a proposed oil embargo would probably take them back to the 1960's.
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There was an article on the internet that Putin has terminal bowel cancer , yippee hope the bastard dies in excruciating pain. 😊😊
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China and possibly India will buy his oil. He is still going to suffer though. In time the Russian public will become aware of the reality, as opposed to the version he feeds them and will turn against him.
It really needs generals and / or oligarchs to do it asap though.
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China and possibly India will buy his oil. He is still going to suffer though. In time the Russian public will become aware of the reality, as opposed to the version he feeds them and will turn against him.
It really needs generals and / or oligarchs to do it asap though.
I suspect it's only a matter of time before a glorious state funeral is announced for President Putin who died of a brain haemorrhage. The traditional Russian 7.62mm one, just behind his ear.
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Well the Russians are losing their generals with Major General Andrei Sukhovetsky and now Maj Gen Vitaly Gerasimov killed.
It is a poor show when high ranking army officers are killed in a campaign like this one. I wonder what effect this, and the claimed loss of 10,000 Russian military to date will have on morale and the effectiveness of their army.
Well done Ukraine armed forces and keep up the great work. :y :y :y
If NATO were to get involved at some stage, you have to wonder how long the so called feared Russian military would last against truly professional armed forces until they turn on Putin ;)
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Well the Russians are losing their generals with Major General Andrei Sukhovetsky and now Maj Gen Vitaly Gerasimov killed.
It is a poor show when high ranking army officers are killed in a campaign like this one. I wonder what effect this, and the claimed loss of 10,000 Russian military to date will have on morale and the effectiveness of their army.
Well done Ukraine armed forces and keep up the great work. :y :y :y
If NATO were to get involved at some stage, you have to wonder how long the so called feared Russian military would last against truly professional armed forces until they turn on Putin ;)
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The Russian strategy can be explained easily it's shit.
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It has just been announced that Poland will hand over it’s Mig jets to the USA for handing on to Ukraine.
Now this could start a trend for NATO and give Putin heart failure. I bloody hope so! :D :D ;)
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It has just been announced that Poland will hand over it’s Mig jets to the USA for handing on to Ukraine.
Now this could start a trend for NATO and give Putin heart failure. I bloody hope so! :D :D ;)
Within NATO, only Poland, Bulgaria, Slovakia and the US operate Mig-29s.
Poland also operate about 50 US made F-16's, and these could probably cover for the 'gifted' 20 odd Mig-29s whilst replacement aircraft are supplied to Poland. Poland has 24 F-35's on order, plus options on another 24, but the first of these won't be delivered till 2025.
Slovakia and Bulgaria have no other options though. They have ordered brand new F-16's, but these aren't due for delivery till 2025-27 and I don't think they have any pilots in training yet. Even though they both own more than 20 Mig-29's only a handful have actually flown in the past 5 years. It's doubtful either country could get more than 8 airworthy on any one day.
The US 'obtained' an unknown number (around 12) of Mig-29s from Moldova when the Warsaw Pact disintegrated. These were used in 'special programs' at Area51 and Tonapah. Most are now preserved or in museums, but a few are believed to still be "active".
The only other current operator in Europe is Serbia who have 14 recently upgraded Mig-29's. However, they're generally fairly pro-Russia, so I doubt they'll want to get involved.
Past European operators include Hungary and Romania, but their aircraft haven't flown for probably 10 years, and are currently just littering their ex bases at Constanta and Kescekmet. Moldova still have 6, but they haven't flown for 30 years. Can't see any of these being any use quickly. The Czechs and Germans did operate them, but sold them to Poland - that's where most of Polands 30 aircraft came from in the first place.
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Apparently the USA have turned down the Polish "offer".
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Apparently the USA have turned down the Polish "offer".
Joe woke up ? or Blinken blinked? ::)
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Biden showed the world that he doesnt actually have a spine. ::)
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Biden showed the world that he doesnt actually have a spine. ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D What a load of 💩
Biden is showing leadership and has bipartisan support across the house for his actions. Your mate trump would have sent planes to Russia. I thank god that Biden was in the Whitehouse when this invasion took place, Trump would have cut NATO adrift under his America First policy. I can't see Biden standing again in 2024, he's too old, but he has certainly proved to be able in difficult times. I shudder to think what the orange, illiterate moron would have done.
"Georgia? Surely Putin wouldn't invade one of our states? " ;D
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Biden showed the world that he doesnt actually have a spine. ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D What a load of 💩
You're forgetting that doing anything other than strapping on the Presidential BandanaTm (replicas available on Amazon for only $456.73 direct from China), oiling his massive pecs then rushing into a combat zone wielding matching gold plated M60s, while shouting like a constipated warthog, is weak and the greatest sin of all, un-American
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Biden showed the world that he doesnt actually have a spine. ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D What a load of 💩
You're forgetting that doing anything other than strapping on the Presidential BandanaTm (replicas available on Amazon for only $456.73 direct from China), oiling his massive pecs then rushing into a combat zone wielding matching gold plated M60s, while shouting like a constipated warthog, is weak and the greatest sin of all, un-American
I've added to my post, I felt just posting a picture of a turd was too simplistic and Trump like.
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According to Biden, Russia is invading....... Russia! ;D And the Iranian people are suffering because of Putin's actions! :D
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He’s very well informed you know😱
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According to Biden, Russia is invading....... Russia! ;D And the Iranian people are suffering because of Putin's actions! :D
He's confused, not cowardly ;D
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That’s not very good credibility for the most powerful man in the world
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That’s not very good credibility for the most powerful man in the world
Better than the alternative.
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clicky (https://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/38966/1646851164/pootsdougal.gif) :o
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The latest panic mongering
West fears Russia could use non-conventional weapons https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60683248
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They have used some pretty nasty stuff in Syria propping up Assad, so they have form.
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That’s not very good credibility for the most powerful man in the world
Better than the alternative.
There are many alternatives 😉
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This is one helluva way to remove a crankshaft! :o :y
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1501670648606777345
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Pretty effective though.
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That’s not very good credibility for the most powerful man in the world
Better than the alternative.
There are many alternatives 😉
Pedantically, you can have only two alternatives. Any more, and they become options.
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Not sure I'd want to be filming this, never mind pouring water on it . Lefty loosey, righty tighty. :o
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/1501654584992968712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1501654584992968712%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pprune.org%2Fmilitary-aviation%2F639666-eastern-ukraine-about-have-war-153.html
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Not sure I'd want to be filming this, never mind pouring water on it . Lefty loosey, righty tighty. :o
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/1501654584992968712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1501654584992968712%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pprune.org%2Fmilitary-aviation%2F639666-eastern-ukraine-about-have-war-153.html
Hardly like Trigger Point on ITV, is it? Chappo to those guys, one mistake and you're gone.
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Russian tanks ambushed outside Kyiv
Ukraine war: Column of Russian tanks ambushed by Ukrainian forces https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60699332
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Russian tanks ambushed outside Kyiv
Ukraine war: Column of Russian tanks ambushed by Ukrainian forces https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60699332
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Good for them got nothing but praise for the Ukrainian people courageous without a doubt.
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Russian tanks ambushed outside Kyiv
Ukraine war: Column of Russian tanks ambushed by Ukrainian forces https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60699332
So what is correct way to pronounce Kyiv? ???
I've always thought it was pronounces Key-ev or maybe Key-iv, and when you hear Ukrainians being interviewed on the telly that's how they pronounce it. :)
So what's with everyone on the BBC pronouncing it as Keev? ::) ;D
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Russian tanks ambushed outside Kyiv
Ukraine war: Column of Russian tanks ambushed by Ukrainian forces https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60699332
So what is correct way to pronounce Kyiv? ???
I've always thought it was pronounces Key-ev or maybe Key-iv, and when you hear Ukrainians being interviewed on the telly that's how they pronounce it. :)
So what's with everyone on the BBC pronouncing it as Keev? ::) ;D
Ke-ev is ruski. I think.
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Russian tanks ambushed outside Kyiv
Ukraine war: Column of Russian tanks ambushed by Ukrainian forces https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60699332
So what is correct way to pronounce Kyiv? ???
I've always thought it was pronounces Key-ev or maybe Key-iv, and when you hear Ukrainians being interviewed on the telly that's how they pronounce it. :)
So what's with everyone on the BBC pronouncing it as Keev? ::) ;D
Ke-ev is ruski. I think.
T'other way round, i think. Ruski's call it Kiev, locals Keev.
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SWMBO, whose father was Ukrainian says Key-iv
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Russian tanks ambushed outside Kyiv
Ukraine war: Column of Russian tanks ambushed by Ukrainian forces https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60699332
So what is correct way to pronounce Kyiv? ???
I've always thought it was pronounces Key-ev or maybe Key-iv, and when you hear Ukrainians being interviewed on the telly that's how they pronounce it. :)
So what's with everyone on the BBC pronouncing it as Keev? ::) ;D
Ke-ev is ruski. I think.
T'other way round, i think. Ruski's call it Kiev, locals Keev.
That is what I said, Ronny. ;)
Ruski pronunciation has 2 syllables.
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Russian tanks ambushed outside Kyiv
Ukraine war: Column of Russian tanks ambushed by Ukrainian forces https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60699332
So what is correct way to pronounce Kyiv? ???
I've always thought it was pronounces Key-ev or maybe Key-iv, and when you hear Ukrainians being interviewed on the telly that's how they pronounce it. :)
So what's with everyone on the BBC pronouncing it as Keev? ::) ;D
Ke-ev is ruski. I think.
T'other way round, i think. Ruski's call it Kiev, locals Keev.
That is what I said, Ronny. ;)
Ruski pronunciation has 2 syllables.
Did ya? ;)
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Russian tanks ambushed outside Kyiv
Ukraine war: Column of Russian tanks ambushed by Ukrainian forces https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60699332
So what is correct way to pronounce Kyiv? ???
I've always thought it was pronounces Key-ev or maybe Key-iv, and when you hear Ukrainians being interviewed on the telly that's how they pronounce it. :)
So what's with everyone on the BBC pronouncing it as Keev? ::) ;D
Ke-ev is ruski. I think.
T'other way round, i think. Ruski's call it Kiev, locals Keev.
That is what I said, Ronny. ;)
Ruski pronunciation has 2 syllables.
Did ya? ;)
Yep.....as I say to my wife "I have my faults but being wrong isn't one of them".... :D ;D
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Give your good lady my profound commiserations. :)
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Give your good lady my profound commiserations. :)
You're not the first to offer this. ;D
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Now a Russian Major General, a commander of an armoured unit, has been killed.
So now 3 senior Russian officers killed, which cannot be good news for Putin! ;) ;) :y
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Now a Russian Major General, a commander of an armoured unit, has been killed.
So now 3 senior Russian officers killed, which cannot be good news for Putin! ;) ;) :y
Not very good news for them either Lizzie. ;)
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Now a Russian Major General, a commander of an armoured unit, has been killed.
So now 3 senior Russian officers killed, which cannot be good news for Putin! ;) ;) :y
Not very good news for them either Lizzie. ;)
Indeed ;D
But let’s hope all the Russian losses may start to weaken the resolve of the rank and file of the military. The Russians have revolted before (1917) against the aims of the Tsar and his officers, so maybe, just maybe, the soldiers, and the Russian people seeing the heavy losses, will go against Putin and his officers. ;)
I know the risks of starting WW2, but perhaps now NATO could go in on a major strike directly against the Kremlin / Putin and other key targets in Russian and Ukraine???
Maybe it is just my frustration of an innocent, democratic, people, being attacked in the way they are, but how can we all sit back and watch these atrocities happen? Yes, the risks would be great, but as we have learnt in history, if you let the dictatorial aggressor get away with it they do not stop with their original intentions (if that is even what they were!) and destroy our democracies. >:( >:(
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
Agreed, Dave. And, as for starting WW2, I thought that had been done years ago. ;D
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
Agreed, Dave. And, as for starting WW2, I thought that had been done years ago. ;D
we don't talk about the Chinese Virus invasion anymore :-X ;D
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
Agreed, Dave. And, as for starting WW2, I thought that had been done years ago. ;D
we don't talk about the Chinese Virus invasion anymore :-X ;D
Never miss the opportunity to promote the chinky sniffle..... :D ;D
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
;D ;D ;D You saw that table then Dave ;D ;D
You wonder how close Putin is to his “circle” of advisors, or whatever they are. Of course he has to keep them at a distance to try and avoid assassination. He is definitely paranoid, just as that man Adolf was. ::) ;)
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
;D ;D ;D You saw that table then Dave ;D ;D
You wonder how close Putin is to his “circle” of advisors, or whatever they are. Of course he has to keep them at a distance to try and avoid assassination. He is definitely paranoid, just as that man Adolf was. ::) ;)
Adolf wasn't a "man" Lizzie ::)
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
;D ;D ;D You saw that table then Dave ;D ;D
You wonder how close Putin is to his “circle” of advisors, or whatever they are. Of course he has to keep them at a distance to try and avoid assassination. He is definitely paranoid, just as that man Adolf was. ::) ;)
Adolf who?
Does he have a second name?
I'm not familiar with this gentleman. ??? ???
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
;D ;D ;D You saw that table then Dave ;D ;D
You wonder how close Putin is to his “circle” of advisors, or whatever they are. Of course he has to keep them at a distance to try and avoid assassination. He is definitely paranoid, just as that man Adolf was. ::) ;)
Adolf wasn't a "man" Lizzie ::)
I think even having one testicle qualifies him as a man……………and an absolute lunatic, monster, and completely evil bastard! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
It is very disturbing that Russia of all countries given the history may have the same in their evil Putin!!
We have to kick his arse as the Americans would say ;)
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
;D ;D ;D You saw that table then Dave ;D ;D
You wonder how close Putin is to his “circle” of advisors, or whatever they are. Of course he has to keep them at a distance to try and avoid assassination. He is definitely paranoid, just as that man Adolf was. ::) ;)
Adolf wasn't a "man" Lizzie ::)
I think even having one testicle qualifies him as a man……………and an absolute lunatic, monster, and completely evil bastard! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
It is very disturbing that Russia of all countries given the history may have the same in their evil Putin!!
We have to kick his arse as the Americans would say ;)
Vlad also only has one ball. :-\ :-\ :-\ ::) ::)
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Presumably the other is in the Albert hall??
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I would dearly love to put a bullet between Putins eyes evil bastard.
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
You'd need a sniper to take him out at that table.
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I had a little day dream the other day that someone developed a nano drone about the size of a fly and they flew it through an open window in the Kremlin into the room where Putin holds court and flew it through his eye and into his head where it exploded! :o
There was another on for Lavrov, but because he wears glasses, that one went into his ear and burrowed its way in before going boom! :D
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
You'd need a sniper to take him out at that table.
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I know a man who could..
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I had a little day dream the other day that someone developed a nano drone about the size of a fly and they flew it through an open window in the Kremlin into the room where Putin holds court and flew it through his eye and into his head where it exploded! :o
There was another on for Lavrov, but because he wears glasses, that one went into his ear and burrowed its way in before going boom! :D
Strong wacky baccy and LSD will do this to a man. ::) ::)
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
You'd need a sniper to take him out at that table.
50 cal (https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.php?smallarms_id=201) should do it :)
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
You'd need a sniper to take him out at that table.
50 cal (https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.php?smallarms_id=201) should do it :)
Try hiding that under your serviette.
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You'd need an unusually long umbrella to to jab Putin
even passing the salt and pepper would be a chore with that table :P
You'd need a sniper to take him out at that table.
50 cal (https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.php?smallarms_id=201) should do it :)
Try hiding that under your serviette.
He's not even sent me an invite yet :(
actually ,thinking about it ,my passport is out of date anyway ::)
maybe someone else could "relieve the pressure " from his skull
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I think my nano drone is the best idea. Someone had better crack on and invent it! :y ;D
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I think my nano drone is the best idea. Someone had better crack on and invent it! :y ;D
No doubt TB is printing one as I type :P
I wonder when it will be in mass production for the cull :D
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Dont put ideas in his head. ::) ;D
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The Democratic political world is walking a tight rope with Dictator Putin. One mis-calculation and we have WW3, but perhaps that is part of the direction we must go in. What else will stop Putin, but military might?
The painful reality is we cannot sit by and do nothing really effective against the Russians whilst innocent Ukrainians die horribly. History has taught us what happens if the Democratic countries do nothing.
On the point of history, has anyone else you been watching the BBC2 documentary on The Rise of the Nazis ?
Now there have been many, many, documentaries I have watched on this subject, along with numerous books and papers read, and listening to academics talking about what progressed from the 1920's. But this series is different. It is an analysis more about the reasons behind the fall of the Nazis and Hitler in the last years of WW2., which could give an academic suggestion on what could happen in the context of Ukraine.
In particular Episode One, Stalingrad, is extremely fascinating with an expert analysis of the nature of both Hitler and Stalin; the nature of dictators and their weaknesses that lead eventually to their downfall due to trusting no-one, especially relevant when considering Adolf Hitler. In fact if you apply the lessons learned from the actions of Hitler in regards to Stalingrad and his puppet commander, General, finally Field Marshall Paulus you can possibly see how Putin could well fail in his gamble to take Ukraine and it's capital, with the people of that nation fighting to the death for their land, their rights, their democracy.
Just put the element of NATO military action in place, with perhaps just air power, and the dominoes could all fall down for Putin and his army, that apparently is now desperate for back up from mercenary fighters and has suffered significant losses already, including those three generals.
We can only pray and hope, and God Bless the Ukrainians and their fighters 8) 8) 8) ;)
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Lizzie . But wouldn’t involving Nato effectively escalate and be seen as a declaration of war. ?
Putin is near the end of his life and presumably wouldnt care about pressing the nuclear button in defence of his Russia.
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Lizzie . But wouldn’t involving Nato effectively escalate and be seen as a declaration of war. ?
Putin is near the end of his life and presumably wouldnt care about pressing the nuclear button in defence of his Russia.
As far as Putin is concerned, a now proved lunatic, gambler, and worse of all a completely paranoid character, the West has already "declared war" with the sanctions, and more importantly the supply of military hardware (and what else?) to Ukraine. History has taught us that dictators cannot be given a yard, as they will take a mile.
But, he must know that if he activated the nuclear option all too soon the mass of nuclear weapons throughout Europe, UK and the USA, let alone on Trident like submarines of the nuclear nations, would rain down on him.
I certainly do not really fancy living again through the low points of the Cold War, and I am against war generally. But here we have a dictator of a nuclear power who has already attacked a free country, and killed thousands with mass destruction, whilst committing alleged war crimes.
Diplomacy has failed, so we have to face the terrible fact that we have got beyond "Jaw, Jaw, and onto "War War". If we do not care how many Ukrainians die, and ignore the great risks of Putin moving on his war to neighbouring nations, then we do nothing more. But with our mutual history with European countries, and great reputation for fighting to protect the weak, and giving sanctuary to those in need of it due to war, can we just stand back?? ??? ??? ??? ???
Our political and military leaders are no doubt deeply considering the military options of NATO as we speak. :(
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Lizzie . But wouldn’t involving Nato effectively escalate and be seen as a declaration of war. ?
Exactly why sanctions and confiscation of assets are being used along with accepting refugees. Not much else to be done without getting stuck in.
The yachts are gradually being rounded up, but the Russians have effectively stolen their leased civil aircraft by transferring them from the leased registries.
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I have great respect for the Ukranian people who although many are fleeing to become refugees there are many who have stayed to fight for their country,and also the Ukranian president who has stayed put to lead his people.I think Putin is trying to rebuild the old USSR at the very least[if he doesn't have even greater ambitions]yes Putin is getting on in years but how much longer he will live is anyones guess and he can do an awful lot of damage in even a short time.Whilst the thought of possible nuclear/chemical/biological warfare horrifies me,let alone the death toll that can be inflicted by conventional warfare,I firmly believe if he's not stopped in Ukraine we'll have to stop him sooner or later and nearer to home.Sanctions are all very well but take a pretty long time to work especially while UK/Europe keep pumping millions[?] into Russia due to reliance on their gas/oil which the UK has apparently said they will phase out by the end of the year!!
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Fairly asy for the uk to wean itself off Russian oil/gas. The EU have just had a summit to agree strategies like EU army ( commanded by France mais d’accord), taking in refugees and not being reliant on Russian energy. On the last point they agreed to be non reliant by 2030! Europe is spending a billion a day on Russian energy if I remember correctly.
Sanctions are affecting ordinary Russians with food prices going up already.
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Yes must try to avoid ww3 but it looks like we’re going to have to confront him militarily very soon, it would be terrible if we had to step in say later on this week after many more have died and then they say told you so. Although hindsight is a wonderful thing :-\
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Legally it isn't our fight.
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US thinks Russia is asking China for help.
If that is true, then Putin didn’t plan his campaign very well!
There is still time for Wagner group or similar to commit an atrocity ( use of banned weapon for example) on “behalf “of Ukraine thus giving Putin legitimacy to step up or escalate his war effort .
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Legally it isn't our fight.
But it could very soon become it, just a bit of miss aimed weaponry or him ‘passing the red line’?
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We could be invaded by Mars but I can see no reason to keep worrying about it. Self fulfilling prophesies and all that.
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We could be invaded by Mars but I can see no reason to keep worrying about it. Self fulfilling prophesies and all that.
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Live everyday as if its your last & all that..
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Plan for the worse hope for the best👍
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Other cliches are available. ::)
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As far as Putin is concerned, a now proved lunatic
Have I missed something? Surely even the Ruskis would remove him from office if it was proven that he was a sandwich short? And the Chinese and Indian authorities wouldn't be so keen to back his regime either.
Now I'm not saying he has got all his dogs on one lead, or that its an allowable situation, but as we do not know what his plans are, I think we're still a way off calling it lunacy.
I wasn't around at the time, but was anyone calling Eisenhower a lunatic in the mid 50's, when the situation was reversed (in very simplistic terms)?
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As far as Putin is concerned, a now proved lunatic
Have I missed something? Surely even the Ruskis would remove him from office if it was proven that he was a sandwich short? And the Chinese and Indian authorities wouldn't be so keen to back his regime either.
Now I'm not saying he has got all his dogs on one lead, or that its an allowable situation, but as we do not know what his plans are, I think we're still a way off calling it lunacy.
I wasn't around at the time, but was anyone calling Eisenhower a lunatic in the mid 50's, when the situation was reversed (in very simplistic terms)?
I actually said…………..” and an absolute lunatic, monster, and completely evil bastard! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)”
I would also add of a paranoid character. Yes, he has a circle of like minded men who are dreaming of a neo-Soviet Union. But they are not close to him and he feels he cannot trust them, hence his meetings with them across a very long table, or by video feed. He no doubt is trying to protect himself from assassination like a bomb under the table!
He is following a pattern that dictators follow, like Hitler, of pushing his luck, gambling on weak opposition, and then acquiring land mass that he believes he has a right to, ignoring the risks to his own people and the extreme costs that could be the result, although always believing he will not lose.
Yes, judging him on what he has carried out so far in striving to reach his objectives in Ukraine, he IS a lunatic who is extremely dangerous.
As for Dwight D. Eisenhower, that President did not invade a democratic nation. He opposed the spread of Communism, and the power of the Soviet Union and China, with of course the action to keep South Korea democratic. He opposed the Soviet Union’s invasion of Hungary during their revolution to bring in democracy in 1956. He also supported the aims to keep South Vietnam a democratic State. But he did not support the “Imperial” type invasion of Britain, Israel and France in their attempt to control Egypt and it’s Suez Canal, also in 1956, by highly dubious means orchestrated by the mentally ill Anthony Eden.
So I cannot see how you can compare him and his actions, always favouring infant democracies, with Putin. The latter is a completely different kettle of fish, as Putin is opposed to democracy. ;)
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…………I would add that if you believe Putin is not a lunatic, mentally ill, just watch the latest news on his attacks on innocent civilians, in their homes, with even more women, children and men killed just for being Ukrainians supporting and living in their democratic country :'( :'( >:(
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The current incumbent was elected on the back of a coup.
Although Putin's doings make as much sense as Angular Merkel trying to liberate Austria and Switzerland because they both speak 'German', but he has his reasons otherwise he wouldn't have bothered.
I suspect that the Oligarchs etc have tanked the Russian economy and thanks to social media, the population have gradually become aware of just how much they are being screwed and Putin is afraid of the implications of a nationwide uprising, after that went so well for Nikolas and his family, and is using this excuse of a land grab to retain domestic control. With the sanctions starting to bite, the Russian people are going to pay the short term price, and Putin will be able to blame it on Nato/UN as a propaganda victory, knowing full well that sanctions are all we can do.
Obviously he will push the edges of his war to the very line of Natos borders, and the recent bombing of an airbase near the Polish border was arguably a fair target and any foreign assets their were legitimate targets, not a declaration of escalation.
Actively targeting civilians is against any moral or legal rule of engagement, but Russian leaders tend to err on the side of excessive force to make their point to the domestic audience.
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The one problem I have with the Ukranian side of the conflict is the fact that they are on the one hand being incredibly tough / brave / patriotic in order to protect the sovereignty democracy and right of self determination of their country, and at the same time desperately trying to join the EU.
Doesnt make any sense at all imo.
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The one problem I have with the Ukranian side of the conflict is the fact that they are on the one hand being incredibly tough / brave / patriotic in order to protect the sovereignty democracy and right of self determination of their country, and at the same time desperately trying to join the EU.
Doesnt make any sense at all imo.
They want to get their fingers in the EU pie stuffed with German, British, Dutch, Austrian, Danish, Finnish and Swedish taxpayers money! :)
Can't blame them really, Poland has trousered something like 195 billion Euros since joining. ;)
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Italy is getting 171 billion out of the recovery fund. Magic money if you are rhe country receiving.
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The one problem I have with the Ukranian side of the conflict is the fact that they are on the one hand being incredibly tough / brave / patriotic in order to protect the sovereignty democracy and right of self determination of their country, and at the same time desperately trying to join the EU.
Doesnt make any sense at all imo.
They want to get their fingers in the EU pie stuffed with German, British, Dutch, Austrian, Danish, Finnish and Swedish taxpayers money! :)
In which case someone should have told Vladolf he didnt need to go to all this trouble. The country, complete with its heart, soul and sovereignty, is actually for sale anyway.
Can't blame them really, Poland has trousered something like 195 billion Euros since joining. ;)
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The one problem I have with the Ukranian side of the conflict is the fact that they are on the one hand being incredibly tough / brave / patriotic in order to protect the sovereignty democracy and right of self determination of their country, and at the same time desperately trying to join the EU.
Doesnt make any sense at all imo.
They want to get their fingers in the EU pie stuffed with German, British, Dutch, Austrian, Danish, Finnish and Swedish taxpayers money! :)
In which case someone should have told Vladolf he didnt need to go to all this trouble. The country, complete with its heart, soul and sovereignty, is actually for sale anyway.
Can't blame them really, Poland has trousered something like 195 billion Euros since joining. ;)
Yes, although there are preferred bidders and Vladolf wasn't in the running. Hence... ::)
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Apparently over 100,000 people have signed up to the government scheme to house Ukrainian refugees in their homes. :y
Good for them, but being slightly cynical I wonder how many have really thought it through properly. :-\
Meanwhile this from Twitter made me chuckle this morning.
(https://i.postimg.cc/WzhzFfXV/Unvaxxed.jpg)
Makes you think about how easily people are manipulated! :-X
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Opti has room for at least ten refugees, but will be vetting them carefully ;D
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Apparently over 100,000 people have signed up to the government scheme to house Ukrainian refugees in their homes. :y
Good for them, but being slightly cynical I wonder how many have really thought it through properly. :-\
Meanwhile this from Twitter made me chuckle this morning.
(https://i.postimg.cc/WzhzFfXV/Unvaxxed.jpg)
Makes you think about how easily people are manipulated! :-X
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I spoke about this to friends recently, people are having to leave in droves fearing for their lives so all thoughts about Covid would be the last thing on their minds a recipe for further disasters.
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Of those 100,000 people 30 might end up in hospital with covid. Most of them will probably be bombed out of their homes. Not really comparable.
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Of those 100,000 people 30 might end up in hospital with covid. Most of them will probably be bombed out of their homes. Not really comparable.
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Pointless quoting figures, amateur expert..😂😂😂
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Of those 100,000 people 30 might end up in hospital with covid. Most of them will probably be bombed out of their homes. Not really comparable.
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Pointless quoting figures, amateur expert..😂😂😂
Yes, and I don't want to be one of those thirty.
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Of those 100,000 people 30 might end up in hospital with covid. Most of them will probably be bombed out of their homes. Not really comparable.
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Pointless quoting figures, amateur expert..😂😂😂
I suppose it was given you missed the point.
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Opti has room for at least ten refugees, but will be vetting them carefully ;D
Females age 18 to 25 only. ;D
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If there is a peace settlement, it is to be hoped that Russia is made to pay restitution to rebuild Ukraine.
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If there is a peace settlement, it is to be hoped that Russia is made to pay restitution to rebuild Ukraine.
I think that is way beyond unlikely. Especially as Russia is now in economic trouble.
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If there is a peace settlement, it is to be hoped that Russia is made to pay restitution to rebuild Ukraine.
I think that is way beyond unlikely. Especially as Russia is now in economic trouble.
There are billions of dollars worth of Russia's gold and foreign currency reserves currently frozen in banks around the world.
I'm sure a mechanism will be found to divert some of that to Keev to help pay for reconstruction. ;)
Obviously bypassing the completely useless UN and vetoes from Russia, China, India, Pakistan et al... ::)
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Yep it will be The West who cough up to a large extent, but maybe rightly so in some respects.
The Ukranians have shown Vladolf and the wider world that apart from the nukes, the Russian war machine is really nothing special.
That should be something for him and all his potential enemies to bear in mind.
The West does still have power, even if much of it is soft power.
Im guessing that there will be a settlement soon, where Ukraine doesnt join NATO in the foreseeable future, and Vladolf officially gets to keep Crimea and some of eastern Ukraine.
That part of Ukraine is culturally Russian and is run by warlords and Gangsters, so no great loss really.
Maybe that is what he was after all along.
Next problem will be the Chinese and thats a much bigger problem altogether.
Once Ukraine calms down, Vladolf will become much closer to them, and they will buy his energy and other essentials at knock down prices, leaving some Western countries struggling.
Serves them right.
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Yep it will be The West who cough up to a large extent, but maybe rightly so in some respects.
The Ukranians have shown Vladolf and the wider world that apart from the nukes, the Russian war machine is really nothing special.
That should be something for him and all his potential enemies to bear in mind.
The West does still have power, even if much of it is soft power.
Im guessing that there will be a settlement soon, where Ukraine doesnt join NATO in the foreseeable future, and Vladolf officially gets to keep Crimea and some of eastern Ukraine.
That part of Ukraine is culturally Russian and is run by warlords and Gangsters, so no great loss really.
Maybe that is what he was after all along.
Next problem will be the Chinese and thats a much bigger problem altogether.
Once Ukraine calms down, Vladolf will become much closer to them, and they will buy his energy and other essentials at knock down prices, leaving some Western countries struggling.
Serves them right.
I agree. I think most of it was ordered by Brezhnev.
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Amongst the grim scenes that we've become accustomed to on our screens lately, some light relief can be had from the vids of Ukrainian farmers towing away millions of dollars worth of abandoned Russian tanks and other valuable military kit. :y
I saw one recently of three lads on a motorbike and side car laughing manically as they made off with some kind of artillery gun towed behind the bike! ;D
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Amongst the grim scenes that we've become accustomed to on our screens lately, some light relief can be had from the vids of Ukrainian farmers towing away millions of dollars worth of abandoned Russian tanks and other valuable military kit. :y
I saw one recently of three lads on a motorbike and side car laughing manically as they made off with some kind of artillery gun towed behind the bike! ;D
I'll check Ebay.
Russian artillery for sale starting at 99p. :)
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Amongst the grim scenes that we've become accustomed to on our screens lately, some light relief can be had from the vids of Ukrainian farmers towing away millions of dollars worth of abandoned Russian tanks and other valuable military kit. :y
I saw one recently of three lads on a motorbike and side car laughing manically as they made off with some kind of artillery gun towed behind the bike! ;D
I'll check Ebay.
Russian artillery for sale starting at 99p. :)
I'm sure free collection from Kharkiv/Kherson/Mariupol * will be a common feature with these Ebay listings. :)
* Delete as appropriate.
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Amongst the grim scenes that we've become accustomed to on our screens lately, some light relief can be had from the vids of Ukrainian farmers towing away millions of dollars worth of abandoned Russian tanks and other valuable military kit. :y
I saw one recently of three lads on a motorbike and side car laughing manically as they made off with some kind of artillery gun towed behind the bike! ;D
I'll check Ebay.
Russian artillery for sale starting at 99p. :)
I'm sure free collection from Kharkiv/Kherson/Mariupol * will be a common feature with these Ebay listings. :)
* Delete as appropriate.
Not a problem for a young fit adventurer like yourself. 8) ::)
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Amongst the grim scenes that we've become accustomed to on our screens lately, some light relief can be had from the vids of Ukrainian farmers towing away millions of dollars worth of abandoned Russian tanks and other valuable military kit. :y
I saw one recently of three lads on a motorbike and side car laughing manically as they made off with some kind of artillery gun towed behind the bike! ;D
I'll check Ebay.
Russian artillery for sale starting at 99p. :)
I'm sure free collection from Kharkiv/Kherson/Mariupol * will be a common feature with these Ebay listings. :)
* Delete as appropriate.
Not a problem for a young fit adventurer like yourself. 8) ::)
I wonder what sort of MPG (or GPM!) you get from a Russian T80 main battle tank? ???
I doubt I could afford to drive it back... :-\ Which is probably why the Russians have abandoned them all over the place! :D
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You get around two and a half miles per gallon from their 1000hp gas turbine engine👍 Maybe you can afford it after all😂
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Compared to diesel tanks, the T-80's fuel consumption in the most severe conditions reaches eight liters per kilometer. For comparison: for T-72 and T-90 tanks this figure is two to four liters.
Источник: https://mzoc.ru/zapchasti-i-rashodniki/kakoj-rashod-topliva-u-t-80.html
Or perhaps not🙂
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I'm sure if I tow another one back for Lord Opti, he'll pay for the fuel! :y :D ;D
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I reckon these three cosmonauts might want to stay in space forever ;D
Russians board International Space Station in Ukrainian colours https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60804949
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I reckon these three cosmonauts might want to stay in space forever ;D
Russians board International Space Station in Ukrainian colours https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60804949
it's a good vantage point to watch all the nukes going off :D
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I reckon these three cosmonauts might want to stay in space forever ;D
Russians board International Space Station in Ukrainian colours https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60804949
it's a good vantage point to watch all the nukes going off :D
Watch out for strays. ;)
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I reckon these three cosmonauts might want to stay in space forever ;D
Russians board International Space Station in Ukrainian colours https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60804949
it's a good vantage point to watch all the nukes going off :D
Watch out for strays. ;)
I suspect the Ruskies are better shots with missiles than they appear to be :-X
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It is claimed by Ukraine that a fifth Russian general has been killed, in addition to around 14,000, in total to date, Russian soldiers also dying.
If this is true, and it is certainly believable as their claims of the other four generals killed were proved to be true, it shows that Putin has failed in his aims for a quick, decisive, military campaign.
How much longer can the truth be kept from the Russian public. No matter what the state officially broadcasts, the truth can only eventually leak out. At least we hope so :y
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Surely Vladolf will pull the troops out of Ukraine after this
Nestle pulls KitKat and Nesquik out of Russia https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60850209
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Surely Vladolf will pull the troops out of Ukraine after this
Nestle pulls KitKat and Nesquik out of Russia https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60850209 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60850209)
Pull out?
Maybe.
But they'll definitely have a break :)
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Surely Vladolf will pull the troops out of Ukraine after this
Nestle pulls KitKat and Nesquik out of Russia https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60850209 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60850209)
Pull out?
Maybe.
But they'll definitely have a break :)
Groan ;D ;D
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Tell you what, these Russians do come across as effing stupid people, and I don't just mean the ordinary grunts, but their commanders. Especially their commanders. ::)
Two things caught my eye today.
Russian troops have pulled out of the Chernobyl exclusion zone after a 'significant' number of troops have come down with radiation sickness after digging trenches in the forests around the nuclear plant. Apparently 7 busloads of seriously ill soldiers have been taken to Belarus for treatment. I doubt the ordinary grunts even knew where they were or the consequences, but their commanders? ???
At about 6am today in Belarus there was a motorway pile up in poor wet conditions when a Russian military convoy stopped on the motorway, and parked up with no lights on or anything warning people of their parked trucks. A civilian Belarussian truck driver died when his truck was the first to hit the convoy with several vehicles piling in after. ::)
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Tell you what, these Russians do come across as effing stupid people, and I don't just mean the ordinary grunts, but their commanders. Especially their commanders. ::)
Two things caught my eye today.
Russian troops have pulled out of the Chernobyl exclusion zone after a 'significant' number of troops have come down with radiation sickness after digging trenches in the forests around the nuclear plant. Apparently 7 busloads of seriously ill soldiers have been taken to Belarus for treatment. I doubt the ordinary grunts even knew where they were or the consequences, but their commanders? ???
At about 6am today in Belarus there was a motorway pile up in poor wet conditions when a Russian military convoy stopped on the motorway, and parked up with no lights on or anything warning people of their parked trucks. A civilian Belarussian truck driver died when his truck was the first to hit the convoy with several vehicles piling in after. ::)
It's all the vodka ;D
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You've only got to look at the driving stuff on You Tube to see that Russkies must be the shitiest drivers in the world. ;D
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Russian commanders have never needed to be clever,they only need to know how to throw ever more troops into the fight and not care about the losses.
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Russian commanders have never needed to be clever,they only need to know how to throw ever more troops into the fight and not care about the losses.
Oh, yes, so very true Baza.
They are still living in the World of the last war (Russian losses in the battle for Berlin 70,000 April/May 1945) and indeed that of WW1 when even the British treated their infantry as ‘expendable’, to the tune of 20,000 on a single day (1st July 1916 at the First Battle of the Somme) :'( :'( :'(
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Interesting facts.
1. Since Russia invaded Ukraine EU member states have given 1 billion euros in assistance to Ukraine.
2. Since Russia invaded Ukraine EU member states have given Russia 35 billion euros in payment for gas oil and coal. ::)
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Interesting facts.
1. Since Russia invaded Ukraine EU member states have given 1 billion euros in assistance to Ukraine.
2. Since Russia invaded Ukraine EU member states have given Russia 35 billion euros in payment for gas oil and coal. ::)
They have no choice.
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Maybe maybe not, but they could give an equal amount to Ukraine.
Or grow a backbone and deliver the weapons they promised but havent delivered.
Spineless shower of shite.
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Maybe maybe not, but they could give an equal amount to Ukraine.
Or grow a backbone and deliver the weapons they promised but havent delivered.
Spineless shower of shite.
You know how these things work. In a few months the EU and US will be fighting over the contracts to rebuild, and Ukraine will be in debt for the next 50 years.
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from what I've seen ,they will need a sh!t load of plate glass :o
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Interesting facts.
1. Since Russia invaded Ukraine EU member states have given 1 billion euros in assistance to Ukraine.
2. Since Russia invaded Ukraine EU member states have given Russia 35 billion euros in payment for gas oil and coal. ::)
They have no choice.
Not true. The Ukranians have little choice. Germany and Austria could grow spines and suffer recession, a bit of cold and a bit of inconvenience. They have had enough years of riding on NATO’s back by not spending their 2% agreed commitment. They have done very nicely spending the saving on other things.
Time to ratchet up the sanctions including on any country not applying sanctions ie supporting Putins regime but we had better get used to shortages of basic items.
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Interesting facts.
1. Since Russia invaded Ukraine EU member states have given 1 billion euros in assistance to Ukraine.
2. Since Russia invaded Ukraine EU member states have given Russia 35 billion euros in payment for gas oil and coal. ::)
They have no choice.
Not true. The Ukranians have little choice. Germany and Austria could grow spines and suffer recession, a bit of cold and a bit of inconvenience. They have had enough years of riding on NATO’s back by not spending their 2% agreed commitment. They have done very nicely spending the saving on other things.
Time to ratchet up the sanctions including on any country not applying sanctions ie supporting Putins regime but we had better get used to shortages of basic items.
Calm down, dear, it's only Ukraine.
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An interesting piece from CNN of all places...
https://youtu.be/fypBI2ovxP8