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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
« Reply #105 on: 09 March 2009, 10:49:24 »

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how many miles on Micks car, just out of interest?

And are these seals likely to be prematurely effected by alternative fuel like lpg?

I dont recall, about 100K ish.

They are bad though, I have never before been able to remove a stem seal with my fingers and the valves just fall through them once the collets are removed!

It appears as if the rubber is not oil tolerant which is pretty piss poor given where they spend there working life!

Might get a few valves cleaned up tonight so will post some further pics.

Might also get the head initialy de-greased ready for some work.

Mileage is just under 120k :y
Can you remember the mileage when the cat code first came on? Probably a better indication of the seals life.

My car is 8 years old this month, and has done 111,000 miles roughly

It started about a year ago, so I'd say life around 7 years/100,000 miles

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« Reply #106 on: 09 March 2009, 11:32:07 »

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how many miles on Micks car, just out of interest?

And are these seals likely to be prematurely effected by alternative fuel like lpg?

I dont recall, about 100K ish.

They are bad though, I have never before been able to remove a stem seal with my fingers and the valves just fall through them once the collets are removed!

It appears as if the rubber is not oil tolerant which is pretty piss poor given where they spend there working life!

Might get a few valves cleaned up tonight so will post some further pics.

Might also get the head initialy de-greased ready for some work.

Mileage is just under 120k :y
Can you remember the mileage when the cat code first came on? Probably a better indication of the seals life.

My car is 8 years old this month, and has done 111,000 miles roughly

It started about a year ago, so I'd say life around 7 years/100,000 miles


6 years 73k no codes....   Yet..... :-X
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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
« Reply #107 on: 09 March 2009, 12:12:59 »

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6 years 73k no codes....   Yet..... :-X

My light first came on at about 48-50K at a guess. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say that it was constantly on by 60K, now on 80K and still on.

Never seen signs of stem seal trouble though. Oil consumption is zero, inlet valve stems are certainly clean and dry (although they will be regularly washed with petrol so not a reliable indicator). Haven't noticed any smoke at startup but will keep an eye out...

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« Reply #108 on: 09 March 2009, 12:18:25 »

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6 years 73k no codes....   Yet..... :-X

My light first came on at about 48-50K at a guess. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say that it was constantly on by 60K, now on 80K and still on.

Never seen signs of stem seal trouble though. Oil consumption is zero, inlet valve stems are certainly clean and dry (although they will be regularly washed with petrol so not a reliable indicator). Haven't noticed any smoke at startup but will keep an eye out...

Kevin

What years yours again, 52 plate 03 similar to mine iirc? Did it start before lpg conversion?

Ps been after a bore scope or a while, anyone know where to get one for sensable money?
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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
« Reply #109 on: 09 March 2009, 12:38:56 »

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What years yours again, 52 plate 03 similar to mine iirc? Did it start before lpg conversion?

Ps been after a bore scope or a while, anyone know where to get one for sensable money?

Yep. Early MY '03 like yours.

Was lit before LPG conversion. Incidentally, at one point during the LPG conversion work I accidentally swapped the connections to injectors 3 and 4 and during the time I was driving it like this (didn't make any difference to running on petrol) the light went out!  :-/

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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
« Reply #110 on: 09 March 2009, 12:43:11 »

Mine is a 02 and the light came on at about 130k or so. No lost of oil or smoke that i can see. Off now with moving the 02s. Will keep an eye on this one. P.s now upto 170k  
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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
« Reply #111 on: 09 March 2009, 12:51:44 »

TBH the Registration number isn't a good guide, ideally you need to know the engine numbers involved because there is a specific range of engines that were affected.


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« Reply #112 on: 09 March 2009, 12:52:09 »

Its possible its a 2001 model year issue only then and might be 2.6 only.

We will see what Geff says!

I need to drill the holes to re-locate the O2 sensors later to.
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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
« Reply #113 on: 09 March 2009, 12:54:48 »

I'm sure when I spoke to Geoff he said it was only 2.6's.

Difficult chap to get hold of at the moment as he's 'on manouvres'

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« Reply #114 on: 09 March 2009, 13:37:42 »

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so I deserve to be the most stupid member medal ;D :y

Is Otosan still a company? Maybe cheaper motoring.  ;D  ;D :y

sorry for the late answer, last night gone sleep with a headache (as from the neighbours >:()

and today was very busy.. phone never stop..

yep..otosan is still a company.. making fords.. and exporting them..
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« Reply #115 on: 09 March 2009, 13:41:07 »

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good news Mehmet exchange rate is better at moment 750TRY = only 296GBP  :D

Sure anyone on here would sort parts and postage for you if you need bits :y

problem is the GBP part is fix TRY part changes so they profit more :-[

oh sorry got the exchange rate the wrong way round :-[ £350 is 885TRY :o :o :o

Just ask on here and i for one would be happy to try and source bits for you :y

Thanks Herefordelite :y

cheers..
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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
« Reply #116 on: 09 March 2009, 20:50:01 »

Ok, bit of valve cleaning this evening!

So, mount the first valve (inlet in this case) in the pillar drill (although an oridinary drill in a vice or workmate would also work) set to a nice low speed



A nice grotty one to!



A course emery used to remove all the crudd with universal lube added (spit!) followed by some 800 grit wet and dry with additional uni lube!



Much better!



So, one done!



And as they only take a few mins per valve, 12 are done in no time!




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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
« Reply #117 on: 09 March 2009, 20:51:47 »

Very good results. Must remember that for the next time :y
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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
« Reply #118 on: 09 March 2009, 20:55:47 »

Is any spit OK to use or has it got to be MarkDTM Spit ;D
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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
« Reply #119 on: 09 March 2009, 20:57:57 »

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Is any spit OK to use or has it got to be MarkDTM Spit ;D


Most spit is OK, beware though, mother in law spit has a habit of dissolving all know substances.

Stoke spit would probably just make the valve dirtier!
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